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Titans

1/4/2017 8:55:24 AM
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Apr 2010
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Landfill entrance fee

Just to give everyone a heads up there is now a $2 entrance fee into the east view landfill. Cash and debit payments are available.

Edited by admin, 2017-01-04 09:24:47. Reason: Title

 
 
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pudds

1/4/2017 9:15:57 AM
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Jun 2010
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The website still says there is no charge under 500kg:  
 
http://www.brandon.ca/sanitation/landfill/landfill-overview  
 
Do you have a source, or do you work there? If you work there, you should pass along the message that the website is out of date.

Tradespinner

1/4/2017 9:25:20 AM
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May 2009
Total posts:395
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Web site states its free to dump under 500Kg's however it also shows that there is a two dollar fee to enter. See attached photo on the side.

Titans

1/4/2017 10:02:29 AM
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Apr 2010
Total posts:51
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I don't work there but I took an item there this morning and was informed by the gentleman that was at the scalar that there is now a $2 entrance fee

RT Holdings

1/4/2017 11:32:14 AM
Member since:
Sep 2016
Total posts:150
Landfill

Perfect! A $2 tax. I guess we will start seeing more TV's, mattresses and other junk in the ditches and bushes. Good job City of Brandon.

mikestang

1/4/2017 11:56:52 AM
Member since:
Jun 2007
Total posts:356
Poor decision

We are going to see more people throw electronics, wood & scrap metal in their garbage rather than be fined $2 to recycle it.

fargobob

1/4/2017 12:09:08 PM
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Nov 2005
Total posts:3504
My thoughts as well

Everytime it becomes more expensive or inconvienient to dispose of the junk we no longer want, the more often we see these things disposed of improperly. It's been something society has had to deal with for a very long time.  
 
I guess it's a user fee, something the city has been doing over the last few years instead of raising taxes. I think in this case, raising taxes to cover the increasing costs of operating a land fill might have been a better way to go. It's only $2.00, but I expect we'll see more improper dumping because of it.

Livforegolf

1/4/2017 12:39:24 PM
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Jan 2012
Total posts:25
landfill

$2.00 is nothing, go to Winnipeg landfill. 10 years ago it was $10.00.

The_Young_Man

1/4/2017 12:52:09 PM
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Jan 2012
Total posts:1333
Landfill fee

City council debated landfill fees a few months back and were originally going to charge $5 to dump garbage, but decided to charge only $2 instead. There was an article in the Brandon sun at the time. It was also talked about on the radio. As far as I'm concerned $2 is nothing carpared to the price that big city landfills charge.  
 
Edited by The_Young_Man, 2017-01-04 12:56:30

Trevor B

1/4/2017 1:00:05 PM
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Apr 2005
Total posts:7555
$2

is what, the cost of a large Double-Double at Tim Hortons?

RT Holdings

1/4/2017 1:53:02 PM
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Sep 2016
Total posts:150
Ya ya ya

  
Trevor B said "is what, the cost of a large Double-Double at Tim Hortons? "

$2 to the City landfill...  
 
Gas pump prices starting to head back up over a buck...  
 
$50+/- increase to MPI...  
 
Hydro 3% more....  
 
The list goes on and on. Every where you turn its more more more. You might think its a double double but to a lot of people that don't get pay raises to help offset the increases its a lot more than just a coffee.  
 
Edited by RustyTrebourne, 2017-01-04 13:55:00

The_Young_Man

1/4/2017 2:40:59 PM
Member since:
Jan 2012
Total posts:1333
Fee

Unless your going to the landfill multiple times a day or everyday that it's open, $ 2 is nothing. Most people only go to the landfill a few times a year, or only take a load to the landfill once every couple years. Even once a week it isn't to much. It's is what it is, nothing's going to change.

Adam

1/4/2017 2:48:58 PM
Member since:
Aug 2008
Total posts:14911
User fees

Its never going to be popular when there's a new fee where one wasnt previously and its a healthy thing for there to be scrutiny...... but this is a hard debate to have without more info on the costs to operate that part of the city and where specifically the fees collected go. If landfill/sanitation are losing money or expenses are going up and there's no other way to recover that cost then the money has to come from somewhere. If on the other hand its a chance to take in money in one department to indirectly pay for something in another department then maybe its a different story..... though being an optimist I'll go with guessing its the former.  
 
I personally feel that as much as there's been progress made with doing things like streaming council meetings, this is an example of the fact that the city (and my councillor) could still do a lot better at outreach and engagement on these kinds of decisions. The old-school way of making decisions (not just speaking of municipal government) is to include a note on an agenda a few days before, then have it discussed and approved. Then when people express concern after-the-fact you get the old "you should've been there when it was discussed and approved". In this day and age there are so many opportunities to connect with people who have day jobs, families to raise, etc. I have a lot of trust that council is doing their job to make decisions with the best information possible and this may very well have been the best decision possible, but personally I'd love if my councillor sent out say a monthly email survey to get feedback on topics that are expected to come up. Then I'd get a better understanding of what's going on, what decisions are being made and that mine and my neighbours' priorities are taken into consideration as part of the wider decision being made (not saying that isn't the case here). I dont think your average person wants to micro-manage every single decision by referendum or run the city into debt up to its eyeballs but there is still a bit of a feeling of disconnect between decision-maker and constituent and IMO the technology is there to close the gap and at the very least have these things come as less of a surprise to more people.  
 
Edited by Adam, 2017-01-04 14:57:14

daisychain

1/4/2017 3:55:21 PM
Member since:
Aug 2007
Total posts:2725
$2..

I would hope that this small amount of money would not deter people from using the site.

Johnbisonbear

1/4/2017 4:18:28 PM
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Mar 2010
Total posts:2691
2 bucks, totally not the point Trevor

  
Trevor B said "is what, the cost of a large Double-Double at Tim Hortons? "

We unfortunately see a lot of garbage and even furniture, baby stuff get tossed in our back lanes so not looking forward to having more. And it will happen.

maxster

1/4/2017 4:44:27 PM
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Jul 2010
Total posts:185
Just like everything else

$2 will increase to $5 then $10 and so on now that a user fee is in place.

Dugr71

1/4/2017 4:50:35 PM
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Apr 2015
Total posts:125
not new

There have been user fees at the dump before this. They come and go. I am pretty sure it was $5 last go round. Then it went away.

Fishin Guy

1/4/2017 4:52:16 PM
Member since:
Dec 2005
Total posts:5876
....

  
Johnbisonbear said "
  
Trevor B said "is what, the cost of a large Double-Double at Tim Hortons? "

We unfortunately see a lot of garbage and even furniture, baby stuff get tossed in our back lanes so not looking forward to having more. And it will happen. "

What is the point then? I am curious. If you are seeing these items already it isn't about landfill fees. It is just lazy people. It is what....5 or 10 dollars to have a large item picked up at the curb. What they need to do with garbage is try and track down the people, even if it is a piece of mail in the trash. Nail them large. We already have city recycling places for electronics. I bought a new bed and it was free to take away the old one. I replaced a water tank, old one taken away. There is no excuse for people to toss their junk in back lanes or bushes. If they are doing it chances are they don't have means to even get it to the dump, let alone paying a whole $2. I have had to pay over $8,000 for the year to dispose of wood that is ground into compost.

bigmoe

1/4/2017 5:26:07 PM
Member since:
Jul 2006
Total posts:1648
$2

$2 is not going to break me but it bothers me they it costs nothing for them to pick it up ( not considering taxes) but if I take it all the way out there myself and save them having to take it, it costs me $2. We had extra garbage after Xmas so I hauled it out there. In future I'll hold on to it and slowly put it all in the container.

unbreakable1

1/4/2017 5:34:00 PM
Member since:
Jun 2005
Total posts:1139
wow

Let's hope the $2 is going towards a decent cause. I'm more ticked that recently they got rid of the garbage and recycle dumpster at my apartment and replaced them with 3 garbage and 3 recycle bins. They are all full right now. That's enough bins for 23 people who live at my apartment. I imagine the only reason the dumpsters got replaced was because a few bad apples (likely people who don't live at my apartment) kept throwing everything but the kitchen sink in them.  
 
Oh well, it could been worse. In The Pas, you only allowed 3 garbage bags and you have to buy tags. Atleast I have a dumpster at work which I can throw garbage in

Trevor B

1/4/2017 6:06:01 PM
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Apr 2005
Total posts:7555
So

  
Johnbisonbear said "
  
Trevor B said "is what, the cost of a large Double-Double at Tim Hortons? "

We unfortunately see a lot of garbage and even furniture, baby stuff get tossed in our back lanes so not looking forward to having more. And it will happen. "

people were dumping their garbage in the lanes when there was no fee.

Trevor B

1/4/2017 6:27:58 PM
Member since:
Apr 2005
Total posts:7555
I'm betting

landfill residential fees are very common, we were just an exception. By just searching 'landfill dumping fees', here's some of the landfill fees for places in Canada.  
 
Calgary has a minimum of $20/load under 250kg.  
http://www.calgary.ca/UEP/WRS/Pages/Landfill-information/Landfill-Rates.aspx  
 
London, ON  
https://www.london.ca/residents/Garbage-Recycling/Garbage/Pages/Waste-Disposal-Fees.aspx  
 
Sudbury  
https://www.greatersudbury.ca/living/garbage-and-recycling/landfill-tipping-fees/  
 
Edmonton  
https://www.edmonton.ca/programs_services/garbage_waste/disposal-rates.aspx  
 
Kamloops  
https://www.edmonton.ca/programs_services/garbage_waste/disposal-rates.aspx  
 
Saskatoon (vehicle entry fee of $15)  
https://www.saskatoon.ca/services-residents/waste-recycling/landfill  
 
Regina  
http://www.regina.ca/residents/waste/garbage-landfill/landfill/  
 
So of the places I posted, Brandon still has the cheapest fee, the next was $3.

Johnbisonbear

1/4/2017 9:07:32 PM
Member since:
Mar 2010
Total posts:2691
So

  
Trevor B said "
  
Johnbisonbear said "
  
Trevor B said "is what, the cost of a large Double-Double at Tim Hortons? "

We unfortunately see a lot of garbage and even furniture, baby stuff get tossed in our back lanes so not looking forward to having more. And it will happen. "

people were dumping their garbage in the lanes when there was no fee. "

you don't think that there is a possibility of the dumping problem getting worse?

justme

1/4/2017 9:23:12 PM
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Feb 2007
Total posts:460
I

Think some great points have been made here. I have no problem whatsoever paying for the one or two loads I might have a year the two dollar fee. It makes it fair that those that use dump frequently would accumulate higher costs. But I also have a concern as the previous poster said, that the fee will likely progressively go up then it may for some families a problem. Once you pay user fees, they will definitely increase. I would hope that if the council chooses to increase the fee that they survey the community before doing so.

JackAzz

1/5/2017 10:31:14 AM
Member since:
Jul 2008
Total posts:1350
Dont think so

  
Dugr71 said "There have been user fees at the dump before this. They come and go. I am pretty sure it was $5 last go round. Then it went away. "

I've been using the Brandon dump for close to 30 years, I don't remember there ever being a fee.

loeog

1/5/2017 10:57:32 AM
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Mar 2009
Total posts:720
I believe there was a 2 dollar fee

And you could buy a bulk card that had 5 dumps at a discount price.

Jimm

1/5/2017 11:06:45 AM
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Jul 2012
Total posts:244
soo

If you kept ur receipt would u be able to write it off at income tax time

Jimm

1/5/2017 11:10:54 AM
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Jul 2012
Total posts:244
and

I like the 500kg I always stayed under 500 kg and made ten trips to dump instead paying bill. it cheaper to burn gas then pay for dumping and bad enough garbage in ditches thanks there just be more. cuz I'll probably dump my branches on someone else's road now so I can buy my tims coffee

JDRAMSEY

1/5/2017 11:23:01 AM
Member since:
Sep 2016
Total posts:17
Typical.

Ah yes, I was wondering how far I would have to read to see Trevor B let us know once again that he's totally on board with any and every price increase the Brandon area endures.

The_Young_Man

1/5/2017 2:48:28 PM
Member since:
Jan 2012
Total posts:1333
???

  
JDRAMSEY said "Ah yes, I was wondering how far I would have to read to see Trevor B let us know once again that he's totally on board with any and every price increase the Brandon area endures. "

Since when is Trevor not aloud to have an opinion and express his opinion?

 
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