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Adam

4/20/2013 9:49:47 PM
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Canada-US border crossing fee?

A story getting some attention this evening is a current proposal by the US government to charge a fee for every vehicle or pedestrian crossing the border. More details are at the link below.  
 
http://www.bellinghamherald.com/2013/04/20/2974196/feds-want-to-study-border-crossing.html  
 
If put in place, how would this kind of fee effect you?

 
 
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MBGal

4/20/2013 10:03:20 PM
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brutal!

After all of the money they make off of us, they're going to get that greedy? Unreal!

DylanD

4/21/2013 12:03:44 AM
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LOL

oh well, not like I go there anyways. They are just going to make people stay here then.

Happy Trails

4/21/2013 12:07:17 AM
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I find

this one to be the funniest in the comments section:  
 
.however, the good news is, since standing in line, as a Canadian national pastime, ranks third behind hockey and curling, the Canadians should be very happy as this will provide yet another venue for them....  
 
Read more here: http://www.bellinghamherald.com/2013/04/20/2974196/feds-want-to-study-border-crossing.html#storylink=cpy  
 
 
Although I am offended about the "third world country" crack, they're American - everyone else must be a third world country compared to the "greatest nation on earth" lol

traveller

4/21/2013 12:09:39 AM
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Bellingham was built on cross border shopping last time the dollar was low i'm sure none of the merchants want to see less canadians, personally i wouldn't be mad but it the cost and annoyance would be calculated in, i would also hope canada would implement the same

krunch

4/21/2013 12:10:29 AM
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With the proposed increase to the Manitoba PST, the fact that you can apply to the state of North Dakota to get any state sales tax refunded that you pay while in that state, and that smokes and beer are still half price in the states? Good riddance Manitoba, see ya Sunday night!.....every other weekend, lol!  
 
Krunch

sammy

4/21/2013 12:18:57 AM
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It would depend on how much the fee was. If it's a small fee, I can't see it affecting the amount of times we go down.  
 
Where does it say third world country....I read it multiple times and can't see it but it is late so I may be missing it lol.

traveller

4/21/2013 12:26:09 AM
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sammy said "It would depend on how much the fee was. If it's a small fee, I can't see it affecting the amount of times we go down.  
 
Where does it say third world country....I read it multiple times and can't see it but it is late so I may be missing it lol. "

the third world crack was in one of the comments, not in the article itself

unbreakable1

4/21/2013 6:56:53 AM
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won't happen,

This idea keeps coming up every 2nd or 3rd year. The Northern States led by North Dakota will strongly object to it stating it would hurt their economy.  
 
As for how it would affect me, I haven't crossed the border in 10 years. It wouldn't hurt me directly but I know my American friends would say somebody in Washington is being stupid.  
 
Edited by unbreakable1, 2013-04-21 06:59:13

Livindedgrl

4/21/2013 8:19:23 AM
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Let's all just shop CANADIAN

Guess we should just stop traveling over there and buying their goods then, if that's their attitude about us. We should just let them fight their own wars, but we're to nice and that's are problem, WE LET THEM WALK OVER US!!!

sprinter

4/21/2013 9:20:13 AM
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fee

there is already a "commercial" vehicle fee in place for commercial vehicles entering the USA.  
It is $10.75 per crossing or a anual fee of $250,which gets you a transponder to.  
This fee was originally put in place to off set the cost of agriculutural loads entering as they take longer to process with inspections and everything.  
Now it is all commercial,and when i cross it is no different than any public traveler,same questions,passport approval,vehicle inspection sometimes.

thecdnmole

4/21/2013 9:25:46 AM
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Shop Cdn? In Cdn - yes, but Cdn goods - no.

  
Jenn Theriault said "Guess we should just stop traveling over there and buying their goods then, if that's their attitude about us. We should just let them fight their own wars, but we're to nice and that's are problem, WE LET THEM WALK OVER US!!! "

Great idea Jenn, but how much of what we buy is actually made in Canada? At least you'd be supporting the Cdn worker at the store!

sammy

4/21/2013 10:45:32 AM
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Thanks

  
traveller said "
  
sammy said "It would depend on how much the fee was. If it's a small fee, I can't see it affecting the amount of times we go down.  
 
Where does it say third world country....I read it multiple times and can't see it but it is late so I may be missing it lol. "

the third world crack was in one of the comments, not in the article itself "

I couldn't figure out why I couldn't see it lol

fastwithclass

4/21/2013 11:06:28 AM
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wow

even with the fee, still cheaper than local

braid

4/21/2013 11:37:14 AM
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hmm

Typical Republican BS. Small amount ...no biggy. Only go down once a year.

Keystoned

4/21/2013 11:40:04 AM
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When you fly, every ticket includes all kinds of assorted "fees" and "surcharges". I guess the governments are looking at people driving across borders and thinking that they are ripe for the picking... after all, you don't pay a cent to cross the border by land in a private vehicle now. The cash cow will now be milked.  
 
Ah well, it was a good deal while it lasted.  
 
PS - Those people in Bellingham are hilarious... they live in a speck on a map that wouldn't have anything if it weren't for all the BC'ers willing to shop there, yet they're so resentful. It's the same dynamic you see in those caribbean resort cities where the only good jobs are in the resorts themselves... and it makes the people working there just hate the resort-goers for some reason.

ilovejesus

4/21/2013 11:51:32 AM
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fee

we have always been considered a terorist when we crossed some people haven't even had a speeding ticket in the last 30years and they are treated the same as a terorist when crossing in to the south so why should this seem so impossible I guess they have just moved the " IRON CURTAIN " from Germany over to here

Smitty78

4/21/2013 12:02:58 PM
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Cross Border Fee?

Why not just shop in friendly Saskatchewan , as our Prov. Govt. is encouraging us to do with the sales tax hike?  
I've never got this concept of going to the US for anything other than business or a vacation (and even then better learn Spanish and watch out for your personal safety).  
As somebody said here "shop local, maybe then our economy will grow"

chickendinner

4/21/2013 12:04:16 PM
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Maybe they (US govt) think we are now all rich!

According to latest data, Canadians represent 25% of the $82.5 billion spent on residential real estate. Over 500,000 Canadians now own property in Florida.  
Cash cow? You bet!

Katherine.

4/21/2013 12:47:30 PM
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well...

The only things I buy when in the states is products we can't get here anymore like vanilla and cherry coke! I don't go very often but depending on the price I may go less. As for the third world comment are we really shocked? A lot of them still believe we live in igloos haha

sprinter

4/21/2013 12:55:57 PM
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terrorists

The american agents treat you with respect while the canadian ones seem to have the attitude that we are infringing on their time.

traveller

4/21/2013 1:23:34 PM
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Katherine. said "The only things I buy when in the states is products we can't get here anymore like vanilla and cherry coke! I don't go very often but depending on the price I may go less. As for the third world comment are we really shocked? A lot of them still believe we live in igloos haha "

haha , i once was asked in grand forks if it was cold in canada, i told him were an hr away lol

braid

4/21/2013 1:25:34 PM
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ummm

  
Annetta said "Not sure, braid, what republicans have to do with this? Isn't it Obamas government that is proposing this?  
 
Boo--I think you have no idea what the Iron Curtain countries are truly like Ifbyou think a US border crossing is similar. I have never been treated like a terrorist at the border. The most obnoxious border agent I have ever encountered was on the Canadian side. Most are great, in both sides."

Ummmm....maybe because it is a bill brought forward by a Republican senator ? ? lol  
Had to laugh at your comment on they still believe we live in igloos Katherine...how right you are ! ! !

Ythen57

4/21/2013 1:40:00 PM
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sprinter said "The american agents treat you with respect while the canadian ones seem to have the attitude that we are infringing on their time. "

The Washington state border agents are not friendly at all when you are crossing in.  
 
The locals hate the huge numbers of Canadians that flock to their stores and buy out all the stock.  
 
On the other hand, most of the stores wouldn't be there if it wasn't for the cross border shoppers.  
 
I don't cross often as I don't have a nexus and the line ups are 2 hours long at times.

JR

4/21/2013 2:59:33 PM
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Comments

I see the "3rd world country" comment has been blanked out and "flagged for review".  
 
So what is going through the heads of the right-wingnuts down there? Do they want to make the whole country an island? I wonder how well Americans will take it when they get charged the fee while driving home. Something like that is bound to discourage cross-border traffic in both directions. Protectionist dummies....

Flutterby

4/21/2013 3:49:23 PM
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traveller said "
  
Katherine. said "The only things I buy when in the states is products we can't get here anymore like vanilla and cherry coke! I don't go very often but depending on the price I may go less. As for the third world comment are we really shocked? A lot of them still believe we live in igloos haha "

haha , i once was asked in grand forks if it was cold in canada, i told him were an hr away lol "

and I told some that we had tv antennas on our igloos. They were very interested in that...that we were that advanced, but never once did they ask how we plugged the tvs in...  
 
I have so many good stories about having fun with them in this way. Now that is a great Canadian pastime. lol

Adam

4/21/2013 4:00:05 PM
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thread

Some good comments so far. I'd just ask that as the thread progresses we please relate comments back to the topic of a fee potentially being charged to cross the border. A separate thread on Americans' perceptions of Canada may be an interesting discussion in and of itself but could easily pull this particular thread off of the intended topic. Thx  
 
Edited by Adam, 2013-04-21 16:07:16

sprinter

4/21/2013 5:02:57 PM
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cross border

right wing,the Obama is very left wing,they are democrats who operate on the same ideas as the NDP.  
If your rich,if you own a business they want you to pay extremely high taxes to support people who don't have the desire to work

Pita

4/21/2013 7:14:44 PM
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When

they decided that you had to have a passport, enhanced driver's license, or nexus to cross an imaginary dirt line is when I stopped going across the border. It is another money grab for the governments involved and one of these days somebody with enough clout will say Enough is Enough already....we can't pay anymore or we will starve and lose our homes....Governments are out to make sure we all stay broke and not get ahead at all. Once that happens and the governments have broke us then everyone will be in line for welfare since the government has taken your money anyway.  

TEN

4/21/2013 8:48:41 PM
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We only cross the border 3 or 4 times per year, so unless it is a really high fee it won't bother me too much. We never go to shop to save money either so again, wont matter. If it does pass, Canada should likely do the same. At least it would help pay for the border crossing personel that are now paid from our tax dollars.

 
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