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jolly green giant

2/17/2011 9:44:53 AM
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Landlord overstepping the line

I just wanna ask people, my landlord isn't allowed to just randomly enter my apartment without permission or some sort of reason? Two days ago he just went into my apartment while i was at school and left a note threating that he would call the humane society on me regarding my cat and how I don't care for her cause she has matted up and tangled fur (for the record her fur mats up really fast and badly regardless of if i brush her fur daily and I had to make an appointment at a groomer in winnipeg cause no groomer in brandon deals with cats) he then cleaned out the litter box he went into my kitchen drawers and took that ladle that you use for spaghetti and used that to clean the box!! how gross is that? and it was not that bad but I dont think he is allowed to enter my apartment without notice or permission am I right in this thought? please give me some feedback

 
 
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Michelle Budiwski

2/17/2011 9:47:42 AM
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No

He has to give you 24 hours notice unless he is entering for an emergency. And no he can't just randomly clean your litter.  
 
That being said, if you are neglecting your pet and the noise/smell is offensive it would give him reason to enter the apartment to check on it.

~Tammy~

2/17/2011 9:51:26 AM
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Residential tenancies

jolly green giant

2/17/2011 9:52:34 AM
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that i understand

oh yea that i understand and i wouldn't be bothered by that if i was mistreating the cat but i'm not. I clean the litter box out completely every few days and i dont mean just scooping i empty it out wash it and pour in fresh stuff. And regarding her fur I know its matted up and its uncomfortable for her but cause there is no groomer in brandon that deals with cats i was forced contact one in winnipeg and they are really busy so i took the next appointment that i could get. and the fact that he used a kitchen utensil to clean the box while the litter skoop was right next to the box.

Michelle Budiwski

2/17/2011 9:55:27 AM
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Landlords

I have been a landlord for a while and never once have I randomly entered my tenant's apartment to clean the cat litter box with anything LOL  
 
I am sur ethere is more going on here - did you speak to your landlord about it? did you complain? Write him a letter documenting your version of events and keep a copy so you have a record if it ever happens again.  
 
But like I said, I am sure that the landlord has a different version or explanation for what happened. Everyone's perception is different.

aabb14

2/17/2011 10:00:18 AM
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M

It is a bit creepy he is wandering your apparently while you are gone, but if be had genuine concern for your cat maybe be thought you were neglecting the apparently too.

jolly green giant

2/17/2011 10:02:19 AM
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landlords

yea but he also is an older gentleman while im a bit younger than him at 23 he has always had the condescending way of talking to me like i am an idiot or something and i try and shake it off most of the time. its not even so much the issue with the cat its him entering my apartment without notice, and i don't think this is the first time either.

Fondue

2/17/2011 10:02:55 AM
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Smell

Is this the first time the landlord entered your apt without permission? Does your apt smell? If your apt smell bad enough, that might give him reason to enter without permission. Maybe your cat was tangled up and meowing for help and someone complained?

jolly green giant

2/17/2011 10:08:45 AM
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re:

things like that i could understand but he should have stated things like that in the note he left me, rather than just threating me with the humane society. and as for smell i am really consciouses about things like that just cause for the sake of myself and if i have company over and never before has there ever been a complaint against me for smells from my apartment. i just hope he doesnt find this discussion and get mad

Michelle Budiwski

2/17/2011 10:10:32 AM
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So

Did you ask him why he entered?

Spook the Raccoon

2/17/2011 10:13:56 AM
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hmmm

why dont you just cut the mats off your cats fur?  
 
and it mats daily? really? you sure about that?  
 
need to go to winnipeg for a groomer? if you need a groomer... you've allowed it to go on too long??  
 
 
you landlord might be rightly concerned about your cat, and was giving you the opportunity to fix it before you loose your cat

Tamara79

2/17/2011 10:17:30 AM
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Call the Residential Tenenencies Branch

and ask what they think, a landlord is not allowed to enter your premises, nor are they allowed to interfere with your belongings unless it has something to do with work they might be doing in your unit, even if you landlord had concerns regarding your cat, they should have contacted you, and if there were immediate issues (cat meowing in pain etc) they should have tried to contact you first. If you are a reasonably normal tenenant then you shouldnt forget that your landlord isnt doing you a favor letting you live there, you are paying for your unit and have rights.

jolly green giant

2/17/2011 10:18:20 AM
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re::

the mats are really close to her skin and she mats up really fast and when it started thats when i started contacting groomers in brandon and ended up making an apointment in wpg but they didnt have anything for a few weeks. and the biggest issue for me is the fact of him entering the apartment, if there had been a problem or something why not just state that?

jolly green giant

2/17/2011 10:22:37 AM
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re:::

im tempted to just ignor this for right now, ill call and find out my rights but try and not start a fight and make things worse. we have always gotten along in the past so im just going to avoid him for now untill i can sort things out with the residential tenenencues branch

shadowpix

2/17/2011 10:40:54 AM
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go to walmart

Buy a pair of clippers, they're only about $30. Shave the mats off. It's what I do, I have a short haired barn cat thats too fat to properly groom himself and he gets shaved whenever the mats get bad. Way cheaper than a trip to winnipeg and paying the groomer.

bakerman

2/17/2011 10:53:27 AM
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really

the landlord enters the apartment unlawfully and all most of you can say is it must be all your fault get over yourselves already.if there were problems the landlord should have addressed them earlier and not break in to his apartment that he is paying for and has the right to privacy.if it was me id complain because he has no right to enter YOUR place,end of story.

Nicole.S

2/17/2011 11:04:19 AM
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Hey... there must be someone in brandon who grooms cats. We have a really old cat at the humane society who needs to be shaved and groomed, he gets done regulalrly...  
 
I'm going there today. Tracy should be around, I can ask her where she gets him done! Then you can get him all cleaned up and get the landlord off your back.... Your cat will thank you too!  
 
 
 
Edited by Nicole.S, 2011-02-17 11:05:35

Houdini

2/17/2011 11:16:11 AM
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Same Landlord?

By any chance do we have the same landlord? haha My landlord is also an older man, and I'm a younger woman (21) and he recently started going into my apartment too! I've never had problems in the past but recently he went into my apartment a couple times without telling me! I was out of town for the day and when I came home I found a note on my mirror saying 'new cocking, don't use shower for 24 hrs'.  
He didn't call to let me know he was coming or anything! Then he did it again a couple days later! I came home to find my toilet turned off (never had problems with it before) and he didn't even call to let me know! A couple days later he stopped by to let the repairman in to fix it and I was home and he didn't even call to let me know!  
 
My suggestion is to report it right away. If it's just starting now he's likely to do it again. I even talked to him about it and he was very rude about it. Get it on file so you can prove he's overstepping his boundaries in case anything happens.

CJC

2/17/2011 11:40:37 AM
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Well i work in the rental industry

What just transpired with you and your landlord is actually something you should speak with the BPS about. Only in an emergancy can a landlord enter your suite unless (this is important) outlined in your lease. But in almost all cases a landlord cant enter your suite period unless on a pre set work order with permission to enter granted by the tenant.Hope this helps good luck

jusumgrl

2/17/2011 12:09:59 PM
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you can

charge your landlord with trespassing, it doesn't matter if its his property you are paying to live there. I recently had the same problem with a landlord, her excuse was because I didn't answer the door. It was 8am and I was still in bed. But if you want to pursue this you can go to the landlord and tenacies branch and talk to them. The landlord has to give 24hrs notice but not more then 2 weeks. and if your cat was meowing he should have contacted you first. The only way they can enter is if its an emergency like your toliet leaking into the apartment below. Your cat meowing is none of his concern. If other tenants complain it could have waited until you were home he could have left a note on the outside of your door asking you to contact him. Personally I would pursue, you have rights and you need to let him know that your not gonna be treated this way.

eNVeCe

2/17/2011 12:21:47 PM
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cat grooming

any vet in town will do a lion cut on your cat. i think its about 60 or so dollars. they are usually very easy to get into and not too long of a wait.

NA

2/17/2011 12:25:13 PM
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I am pretty sure....

  
Houdini said "By any chance do we have the same landlord? haha My landlord is also an older man, and I'm a younger woman (21) and he recently started going into my apartment too! I've never had problems in the past but recently he went into my apartment a couple times without telling me! I was out of town for the day and when I came home I found a note on my mirror saying 'new cocking, don't use shower for 24 hrs'.  
He didn't call to let me know he was coming or anything! Then he did it again a couple days later! I came home to find my toilet turned off (never had problems with it before) and he didn't even call to let me know! A couple days later he stopped by to let the repairman in to fix it and I was home and he didn't even call to let me know!  
 
My suggestion is to report it right away. If it's just starting now he's likely to do it again. I even talked to him about it and he was very rude about it. Get it on file so you can prove he's overstepping his boundaries in case anything happens. "

landlords are allowed to enter your place if they are fixing something. I have had that happen before when I used to rent.

luna_moon

2/17/2011 12:26:12 PM
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...

I VOTE FOR LION CUT! lmfao then post photos! heck i'll offer to do both lol

Angels2012

2/17/2011 1:39:11 PM
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older man n young girls

Maybe he was just snooping around in your things and being a perv.. then come up some excuse about the cat and things not working and u have no problem before..  
 
I Would call the BPS and file it. and the rental board. he has no rights in ur place unless its a 24hr notice on paper. It's the same for repair guys they cannot enter unless u have a 24 hr notice. You have the rights to kick them out of ur place. And refuse serice unless u have that 24hr notice.  
 
Sorry but he might be a perv and if u talked to him about that issue of entering your place with out a notice then being rude about it. I would fully inspect your palce..  
These days you cannot trust anyone.  
 
Hope you girls get that fixed soon..

hobbes

2/17/2011 1:43:19 PM
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...

The landlord cannot do that! Contact the Tenancy Branch, and bring the letter he left! Ususally it a your word against his situation- but he left a note! Contact BPS as well, being that he entered without permission, and rifled thru your stuff.  
 
I'd also ask to have the ladle replaced. A minor cost, but proves the point that you will not put up with the BS!  
 
In the mean time, invest in one of those door alarms that sqwak when someone opens the door...  
 
Unless in an emergency situation, a landlord HAS TO give at least 24 hours notice (and even then you have the right to say no if its an inconveinient time for you!)  
 

Oryx

2/17/2011 1:48:16 PM
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You can't

  
jusumgrl said "charge your landlord with trespassing, it doesn't matter if its his property you are paying to live there. I recently had the same problem with a landlord, her excuse was because I didn't answer the door. It was 8am and I was still in bed. But if you want to pursue this you can go to the landlord and tenacies branch and talk to them. The landlord has to give 24hrs notice but not more then 2 weeks. and if your cat was meowing he should have contacted you first. The only way they can enter is if its an emergency like your toliet leaking into the apartment below. Your cat meowing is none of his concern. If other tenants complain it could have waited until you were home he could have left a note on the outside of your door asking you to contact him. Personally I would pursue, you have rights and you need to let him know that your not gonna be treated this way. "

actually you can't charge your landlord with tresspassing, it's their property.  
 
Second, Im going to suggest the tennant speak directly to the landlord before making any phone calls to the authorities (tennant branch or police). Because if you call the authorities they are going to ask you if you have adresssed the issue with the landlord first, before calling.  
 
A landlord usually needs to give a tenant notice before they go into a rental unit. The landlord must give the tenant at least 24 hours, but not more than two weeks’ notice before entering.  
The notice must:  
>: be in writing  
>: say why the landlord needs to go in  
>: give the date and time of the visit  
A tenant doesn’t have to be home when a landlord enters the rental unit. As long as the landlord gives proper notice, the landlord has the right to enter.  
 

Nicole.S

2/17/2011 4:25:47 PM
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Yes as others have said. The vets in town will groom cats.. I think Tracy said they take Zues to Brandon Hills...  
 

jusumgrl

2/17/2011 4:31:03 PM
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Actually

  
Oryx said "
  
jusumgrl said "charge your landlord with trespassing, it doesn't matter if its his property you are paying to live there. I recently had the same problem with a landlord, her excuse was because I didn't answer the door. It was 8am and I was still in bed. But if you want to pursue this you can go to the landlord and tenacies branch and talk to them. The landlord has to give 24hrs notice but not more then 2 weeks. and if your cat was meowing he should have contacted you first. The only way they can enter is if its an emergency like your toliet leaking into the apartment below. Your cat meowing is none of his concern. If other tenants complain it could have waited until you were home he could have left a note on the outside of your door asking you to contact him. Personally I would pursue, you have rights and you need to let him know that your not gonna be treated this way. "

actually you can't charge your landlord with tresspassing, it's their property.  
 
Second, Im going to suggest the tennant speak directly to the landlord before making any phone calls to the authorities (tennant branch or police). Because if you call the authorities they are going to ask you if you have adresssed the issue with the landlord first, before calling.  
 
A landlord usually needs to give a tenant notice before they go into a rental unit. The landlord must give the tenant at least 24 hours, but not more than two weeks’ notice before entering.  
The notice must:  
>: be in writing  
>: say why the landlord needs to go in  
>: give the date and time of the visit  
A tenant doesn’t have to be home when a landlord enters the rental unit. As long as the landlord gives proper notice, the landlord has the right to enter.  
 
"

you can charge them with tresspassing! Yes its their property but you are renting from them. I'm in the process of going through a bunch of this stuff with my old landlord. and it doesn't have to be a written notice only under certain circumstances.  
 
http://web2.gov.mb.ca/laws/statutes/ccsm/r119e.php#54

Common Sense

2/17/2011 8:08:38 PM
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jolly green giant said "I just wanna ask people, my landlord isn't allowed to just randomly enter my apartment without permission or some sort of reason? Two days ago he just went into my apartment while i was at school and left a note threating that he would call the humane society on me regarding my cat and how I don't care for her cause she has matted up and tangled fur (for the record her fur mats up really fast and badly regardless of if i brush her fur daily and I had to make an appointment at a groomer in winnipeg cause no groomer in brandon deals with cats) he then cleaned out the litter box he went into my kitchen drawers and took that ladle that you use for spaghetti and used that to clean the box!! how gross is that? and it was not that bad but I dont think he is allowed to enter my apartment without notice or permission am I right in this thought? please give me some feedback "

Legally, no. Morally, yes. Take better care of your cat please.

Oryx

2/17/2011 8:11:33 PM
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Really?

  
jusumgrl said "
  
Oryx said "
  
jusumgrl said "charge your landlord with trespassing, it doesn't matter if its his property you are paying to live there. I recently had the same problem with a landlord, her excuse was because I didn't answer the door. It was 8am and I was still in bed. But if you want to pursue this you can go to the landlord and tenacies branch and talk to them. The landlord has to give 24hrs notice but not more then 2 weeks. and if your cat was meowing he should have contacted you first. The only way they can enter is if its an emergency like your toliet leaking into the apartment below. Your cat meowing is none of his concern. If other tenants complain it could have waited until you were home he could have left a note on the outside of your door asking you to contact him. Personally I would pursue, you have rights and you need to let him know that your not gonna be treated this way. "

actually you can't charge your landlord with tresspassing, it's their property.  
 
Second, Im going to suggest the tennant speak directly to the landlord before making any phone calls to the authorities (tennant branch or police). Because if you call the authorities they are going to ask you if you have adresssed the issue with the landlord first, before calling.  
 
A landlord usually needs to give a tenant notice before they go into a rental unit. The landlord must give the tenant at least 24 hours, but not more than two weeks’ notice before entering.  
The notice must:  
>: be in writing  
>: say why the landlord needs to go in  
>: give the date and time of the visit  
A tenant doesn’t have to be home when a landlord enters the rental unit. As long as the landlord gives proper notice, the landlord has the right to enter.  
 
"

you can charge them with tresspassing! Yes its their property but you are renting from them. I'm in the process of going through a bunch of this stuff with my old landlord. and it doesn't have to be a written notice only under certain circumstances.  
 
http://web2.gov.mb.ca/laws/statutes/ccsm/r119e.php#54 "

the police would be the ones to charge no? Good luck going through the process, but good luck with that tresspassing charge!

 
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