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Dean Stewart

9/14/2011 6:46:27 PM
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Can't Sell Chocolate??? As Seen On CKY What???

Ok time to grow up...a fundraiser is a fundraiser...if they want to sell chocolates...let them sell chocolate. What the hell is wrong with you? Seriously? It's a F U N D R A I S E R! Its not like they're selling PLAYBOY or Penthouse, alcohol or even cigarettes!!!!  
 
Is it me or are there alot of morons making choices for normal people wanting to do good for schools and the community?  
 
Sorry that ticked me off tonight watching that on the news. Grow up you book smart idiots!  
Let people have fun and just do what we all did as kids and we had fun doing, or did you forget your childhood?  
 
Wow!  
 
I don't get it!

 
 
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~Tammy~

9/14/2011 6:53:10 PM
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I wont purchase magazines, books or crap like that either. But bring me one of those chocolate bars we sold in our schools when we were young your darn rights im going to be looking for a 5 dollar bill  
 
Stick with the chocolate, its worked for the last 30 years and it will work for the next 30...

Dean Stewart

9/14/2011 7:00:10 PM
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Chocolate covered almonds....

MMMMMMmmmmmmm Now I'm hungry.

Dean Stewart

9/14/2011 7:04:38 PM
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notme...no worries...

your right...I'm getting ready for the so called wacko's to attack....on guard!!!! Cheers! Its all in fun see my smiley face? Its just a discussion ;) see my wink smiley face again

Dean Stewart

9/14/2011 7:08:24 PM
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I agree Oliver!

completely and no I'm not new...

rocket

9/14/2011 7:10:54 PM
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Its ok for billion dollar corporations to sell fast food but kids can't sell chocolates.

Dodge girl

9/14/2011 7:12:03 PM
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I love chocolate as much as the next person (maybe more!) and would buy more chocolate than magazine subscriptions, wrapping paper, etc. BUT I think they're trying to send a consistant message. The schools are trying to teach healthy eating (because sadly too many kids aren't learning about it at home as evidenced by the ballooning childhood obesity issue) as well as not allowing nut products in many schools - and then to turn around and say "chocolate and sweets aren't healthy, but go sell a lot of chocolate ... oh and they contain nuts, so you can't have them at school" Doesn't make a lot of sense.

na

9/14/2011 7:25:59 PM
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Actually

  
Dodge girl said "I love chocolate as much as the next person (maybe more!) and would buy more chocolate than magazine subscriptions, wrapping paper, etc. BUT I think they're trying to send a consistant message. The schools are trying to teach healthy eating (because sadly too many kids aren't learning about it at home as evidenced by the ballooning childhood obesity issue) as well as not allowing nut products in many schools - and then to turn around and say "chocolate and sweets aren't healthy, but go sell a lot of chocolate ... oh and they contain nuts, so you can't have them at school" Doesn't make a lot of sense. "

your consistency argument is very valid.  
 
We want you to be healthier so we won't sell chocolate in school, but here's some chocolate bars to sell door to door...be sure to buy a few and support our school!  
 
While we're at it, even though we don't allow peanuts in school, here's some bars with peanuts in them...go sell them door to door. They're bigger sellers than peanut free.  
 
I hadn't thought about it like that, but you're right.  
 
On that note, I'd still rather buy the $5 chocolate bar that I could get at the store for $2 than spend $20 or more on gourmet food, magazines, wrapping paper etc.  
 
 
Signed  
 
Hugh Jass  
 
Edited by RonS, 2011-09-14 19:28:02

Dean Stewart

9/14/2011 7:33:33 PM
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It's all good...

I think of it as a fundraiser...no one is telling the kids to eat their product. People do eat chocolate in moderation. It's about being a fundraiser, a fun competitive way of making money for the schools and facilities that need the funds.  
 
I still don't get it...but it's all good

Michelle Budiwski

9/14/2011 8:40:37 PM
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Healthy Foods

What they are trying to do is combat the high obesity rate with education in schools - removing vending machines, pop, hot dog sales etc. Never needed to do that before because there wasn't such an epidemic of childhood obesity and life-style related health issues. If they did this in school but still allowed junk to be sold for fundraisers, it sends a mixed message.  
 
When we introduced the Healthy Foods Policy in Frontier School Division - it included fundraisers and canteens. At first there was a great deal of controversy but as people got creatinve and used to the idea, it wasn't such a big deal anymore.  
 
It is sad that we need these changes, but they are needed.

Kato

9/14/2011 8:46:04 PM
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My how times have changed. When I was in junior high, the principle had a big drawer in his desk filled with chocolate bars to sell to the students. I think he was keeping the profits too!

Beautiful Day

9/14/2011 8:56:31 PM
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better options  
 
higher % of cocoa chocolate bars, nut free  
 
that's a better alternative to milk chocolate, which is so delicious, but not good for you  
 

~Tammy~

9/14/2011 9:15:20 PM
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Butterflymbca said "What they are trying to do is combat the high obesity rate with education in schools - removing vending machines, pop, hot dog sales etc. Never needed to do that before because there wasn't such an epidemic of childhood obesity and life-style related health issues. If they did this in school but still allowed junk to be sold for fundraisers, it sends a mixed message.  
 
When we introduced the Healthy Foods Policy in Frontier School Division - it included fundraisers and canteens. At first there was a great deal of controversy but as people got creatinve and used to the idea, it wasn't such a big deal anymore.  
 
It is sad that we need these changes, but they are needed. "

Funny you should mention Frontier School Division. As someone who attended one of their largest schools and had the most ass kickin school trips of any school I have attended, Id say our chocolate bar sales must have done us pretty damn good. While city kids were going on stupid little day trips for thier trips, We got to go to places like Batoche, Churchill, Winnipeg (yeah ok boring now lol) among other places. So yes, those chocolate bars helped pay for some pretty damn good memories.

braid

9/14/2011 9:20:19 PM
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OK....

Dean...Dean..Dean... you had to mention them...now I want some..lol  
You can keep your no nut high in whatever... give me the almonds! ! lol  
Seriously...we used to make one $*%# of a lot of money selling those things.. Payed for a large chunk of the new play structures at the school.

Bubbz

9/14/2011 9:32:48 PM
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Signed...

Hugh Jass....Love it!! LOL!

Atyaugh

9/14/2011 10:28:00 PM
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Healthier

  
Butterflymbca said "What they are trying to do is combat the high obesity rate with education in schools - removing vending machines, pop, hot dog sales etc. Never needed to do that before because there wasn't such an epidemic of childhood obesity and life-style related health issues. If they did this in school but still allowed junk to be sold for fundraisers, it sends a mixed message.  
 
When we introduced the Healthy Foods Policy in Frontier School Division - it included fundraisers and canteens. At first there was a great deal of controversy but as people got creatinve and used to the idea, it wasn't such a big deal anymore.  
 
It is sad that we need these changes, but they are needed. "

I think everyone understands the reasoning behind removing vending machines and junk food and such from the schools. And I doubt that many people have a problem with that.  
 
But the schools must realize that the fundraisers are not going to be as successful if they take away some of the top sellers. Chocolate has been sold by kids for years...same with girl guide cookies. The reason they keep selling them is because people are buying them.  
 
I agree with a lot of the people who posted above. I am not going to buy magazines or cards or stuff that I have no interest in. I would spend $2 on a chocolate bar though. I can make a good chocolate bar last me a good week or two, so it's worth the $2. Lol.  
 
I think they would be better off just sending kids out door to door to ask for school donations. I rather give them $5 as a donation than buy a useless magazine from them. The school could save themselves money that way too, and not have to spend the money on whatever they were going to sell in the first place.

Michelle Budiwski

9/15/2011 6:04:44 AM
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Creativity

I agree that magazines won't sell like chocolate bars - again a sad statement of where our society is and how we got into this mess in the first place.  
 
So if they won't - it is time to get creative with fundraisers and not make them about door to door sales anymore. Interactive fundraisers, events, ec make a tonne of money, I have been involved in a kazillion of them so if anyone needs any ideas for their school to replace chocolate bar sales, let me know I'd be happy to help with some ideas.  
 
They may not be as easy as slinging chocolate but changing bad habots usually are never easy. It's a great lesson for the kids though.  
 
Like I said, I wish that these changes didn't have to happen, but times have changed, and not for the better when it comes to our kids health and nutrition.

mikestang

9/15/2011 7:46:52 AM
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Consistant message? Yeah right!

They can't sell chocolate, but they can buy poutine in the school cafeteria and students (18 year olds) can help host bud, spud & steak night fundraisers at the bar.

Bunchastuff

9/15/2011 7:59:21 AM
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give me a break

people need to get a life and not look so deep into things! Everyone has to try and be a hero butterfly its a chocolae bar! who cares its fast easy and effective. Selling a chocolate bar isnt a bad habit,and eating one isnt either

Michelle Budiwski

9/15/2011 8:07:03 AM
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mikestang

That shouldn't be happening either. More school divisions need to incorporate a Healthy Foods Policy on their grounds which means no processed, deep friend and junk food on campuses at all - some divisions have, others have but eventually they will ll be on board.  
 
laidback - I wish it were that simple but when we are seeing a generation of children with a life-expectancy shorter than those of their parents for the first time ever due to lifestyle, we have a huge situation. We need to rectify the damage that has been gradually done over the past few generations and our reliance on convieience foods and limited activity or we will literally be killing our kids. We are seeing epidemic proportions of adult illnesses in children that have never be seen before directly linked to diet and exercise or lack there-of. As a nation we are also looking at epidemic proportions of obesity.  
 
I wish it were just as simple as 'a chocolate bar'. Dealing with this crap sucks

Ma5

9/15/2011 8:25:52 AM
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magazines

  
Butterflymbca said "I agree that magazines won't sell like chocolate bars - again a sad statement of where our society is and how we got into this mess in the first place.  
 
So if they won't - it is time to get creative with fundraisers and not make them about door to door sales anymore. Interactive fundraisers, events, ec make a tonne of money, I have been involved in a kazillion of them so if anyone needs any ideas for their school to replace chocolate bar sales, let me know I'd be happy to help with some ideas.  
 
They may not be as easy as slinging chocolate but changing bad habots usually are never easy. It's a great lesson for the kids though.  
 
Like I said, I wish that these changes didn't have to happen, but times have changed, and not for the better when it comes to our kids health and nutrition. "

You said magazines won't sell like chocolate bars? When I was in junior high our school sold them and we profitted $15,000. I would know, I was on the student council every year. Other things besides chocolates do sell!

BlueJeans

9/15/2011 8:28:32 AM
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Time for Change

I have to agree that it's time for change and the chocolate bars should go! They made a great fundraiser in their time but it would be nice to set a new example and try something else.  
 
I actually quit supporting the bars last year as well. My kids generally went around but we chose not to in support of something healthier.  
 
I heard of a daycare that tried something different this year as a fundraiser instead of the the other crap like wrapping paper, pizza etc. They sold tickets to a comedy night! That was something new. Every family had to buy or sell a number of tickets, they could either go themselves and enjoy the evening or choose to sell them to someone else. Not sure how their evening went but they made enough that they don't have to fundraiser for the rest of the year.

Michelle Budiwski

9/15/2011 8:31:52 AM
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AWESOME!!!

  
Smile&Laugh said "
  
Butterflymbca said "I agree that magazines won't sell like chocolate bars - again a sad statement of where our society is and how we got into this mess in the first place.  
 
So if they won't - it is time to get creative with fundraisers and not make them about door to door sales anymore. Interactive fundraisers, events, ec make a tonne of money, I have been involved in a kazillion of them so if anyone needs any ideas for their school to replace chocolate bar sales, let me know I'd be happy to help with some ideas.  
 
They may not be as easy as slinging chocolate but changing bad habots usually are never easy. It's a great lesson for the kids though.  
 
Like I said, I wish that these changes didn't have to happen, but times have changed, and not for the better when it comes to our kids health and nutrition. "

You said magazines won't sell like chocolate bars? When I was in junior high our school sold them and we profitted $15,000. I would know, I was on the student council every year. Other things besides chocolates do sell! "

That is great! Hopefully more can do the same now

gimmeAmin

9/15/2011 8:33:07 AM
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Chocolate

This is a little bit much. First you are extremely limited in what you can pack for lunches/snacks to send to school. Then you can't have Christmas concerts. And now, they're taking away chocolate of all things.  
 
What is this world coming to?  
 
They want to encourage healthy eating, which I completely understand and support. But chocolate is a "treat" and most people know it as such. I will not be purchasing magazine subscriptions, buying wrapping paper and other junk. I want a consumable product.  
 
And if they're so concerned about health, why are they pushing MILK at school when lactose intolerance is becoming more and more common. You can enter a draw every time you have milk at school - that excludes the kids that can't have milk. Why aren't they pushing for more water since it's beneficial to EVERYONE to drink H20?!

Michelle Budiwski

9/15/2011 8:38:36 AM
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Treats

If most people knew what treats were and how to eat them in moderation, we wouldn't have the epidemic numbers of obese people in our society that we do.  
 
As far as your milk question - lactose intolerance is not a major health concern in North America and milk provides kids with essential vitamins and minerals that they desperately need.

RickR

9/15/2011 1:24:20 PM
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Big Brotherism (if thats a word)

is dragging all our lives down. No-one has choices any more. Don't do this don't do that.  
 
What happened to parents.  
 
Lets ban Christmas and especially Halloween because there is nothing good that comes out of that. ('cept those little chocolate bars!).  
 
Aren't people tired of being told how to live by someone else? I know I sure am

Not4prophet

9/15/2011 1:47:40 PM
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a thought

 
The money from these fundraisers is probably the only cash where the majority doesn't go to lining the pockets of teachers and administration in perks and wages and actually benefits the students.

Not4prophet

9/15/2011 1:54:51 PM
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and also..

 
There has always been health issues in society, but like with the gripes of other minority issues, does the whole world have to be held hostage to appease those who don't wish to take the responsibility to police themselves and expect the world to greet them on their terms? The Charter of Rights has done more to damage this country than a charter of personal responsibility ever would.  
 

Dog

9/15/2011 2:09:19 PM
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Moderation is the key

Exactly Butterfly, moderation is the key. Some studies are now saying chocolate (in moderation) is good for you (antitoxidants). This could just be something my stomach read though, it loves chocolate.

sheralyn

9/15/2011 2:39:36 PM
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mmmm chocolate

I totally agree! what are they thinking, Don't bother sending my kids home with the gift wrap and other crap to sell it is too expensive. The only problem I can say about selling the chocolate bars is that they don't put enough Chocolate covered almonds in the boxes lol....

 
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