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Pawprints

11/5/2018 6:38:31 PM
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Milk

This is an odd thread but to be honest, I am a tad upset.  
 
Sobey''s and Safeway changed their milk product to Lucerne a while ago. Ok, so I have gone to Walmart because they had Dairyland Milk.  
 
I went to Walmart today and their entire milk section is either empty or is starting to fill with Lucerne. Let me say I HATE Lucerne because it has such a thick and yucky taste!! My Opinion Only!! I was told Walmart has changed their milk distributor. Good God!! They take away people run check outs and now make this change?  
 
Here''s a fun fact.....Lucerne is originally American!  
 
Went to Co-op just to buy Dairyland milk and had to ask if they, too, were going to change to Lucerne. Was told NO, absolutely not because they support MADE IN MANITOBA milk!!  
 
So relieved!!  
 
My question to you is do you notice a difference in milk taste or do you not care? And if you care, will you go out of your way to purchase your choice elsewhere?  
 
Must say I noticed Sobey's do carry Dairyland now. Wonder why?  
 
Edited by Pawprints, 2018-11-05 18:48:35

campfire3

11/5/2018 6:43:54 PM
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...

I appreciate your post be/c now I don’t need to run all over town looking . My go to is Dairyland Skim Milk...Beatrice Skim tastes like the aftermath of sugary cereal to me. I actually think Lucerne is in the middle for me. Anything but Beatrice for white milk - chocolate milk is a different story...Beatrice chocolate is pretty tasty.

AC2

11/5/2018 6:48:43 PM
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Apr 2007
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milk

I will no longer be getting my milk at Walmart either. I will be goin to the co-op. Lucerne milk leave me with a funny taste.

Pawprints

11/5/2018 7:11:32 PM
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Apr 2018
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Me too!

  
AC2 said "I will no longer be getting my milk at Walmart either. I will be goin to the co-op. Lucerne milk leave me with a funny taste. "

I do know that Dairlyland is sold by Co-op, Sobey's, and I think Giant Tiger?

Tamara79

11/5/2018 7:34:45 PM
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Dairyland

Made in Brandon! We make an effort to buy Dairyland.

A.G.

11/5/2018 7:38:53 PM
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Jan 2010
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I too went to Walmart today and notice mostly Lucerne! I dislike it too. To me it tastes thin and not much flavour and a weird flavour lol. Guess I’ll have to go co op specifically for milk! Are they the only ones in town now with Dairyland?

Shebear

11/5/2018 7:49:34 PM
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Aug 2013
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I've

bought the natural or organic 3.25% milk as Sobeys when on sale and find that good, although I dont really drink milk much. Why would storesstop carrying diff brands of milk? Not everyone eats one kind of icecream lol

Grandmama

11/5/2018 8:10:51 PM
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May 2009
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Shoppers Drug Mart

Shoppers also sells Dairyland milk. Dairyland is also our preferred brand vs Lucerne.  
 
And on another note, seems like Walmart no longer carries Purex toilet tissue either!

random1983

11/5/2018 8:26:35 PM
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Aug 2007
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Great value pop

Has anyone else noticed Walmart has gone away from carrying all their great value brand pop and only carries brand name pop now?

Abbysmum

11/5/2018 8:36:25 PM
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ugh

I dislike Lucerne. It tastes like corn.  
 
There was a thread awhile back about this (Wal-Mart discontinuing Dairyland). I guess I'll be be heading to Co-op or SDM for milk now.

Abbysmum

11/5/2018 8:40:04 PM
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Really?

  
Grandmama said "Shoppers also sells Dairyland milk. Dairyland is also our preferred brand vs Lucerne.  
 
And on another note, seems like Walmart no longer carries Purex toilet tissue either! "

That's weird too.  
 
While we're on the topic of things not on store shelves, has anyone noticed that whole wheat flour is really hard to find, like anywhere, these days? I've been trying to buy some for weeks!

Iceman14

11/5/2018 9:24:55 PM
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Co-op

Support Dairyland and local jobs ppl! Co-op carries dairyland.

Cheezies

11/5/2018 9:28:00 PM
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Yup

  
Grandmama said "Shoppers also sells Dairyland milk. Dairyland is also our preferred brand vs Lucerne.  
 
And on another note, seems like Walmart no longer carries Purex toilet tissue either! "

Noticed they stopped carrying Purex toilet paper a couple months ago. As well as the 24 packs of Nestle water are no longer carried there ( or have been gone for over a month now). Makes me wonder what else I haven’t noticed them not carrying anymore.  
As for Milk, I must’ve got the tail end of the Dairyland on Friday night. I don’t like the Lucerne milk at all. Won’t be buying it.

Pawprints

11/5/2018 9:50:49 PM
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Apr 2018
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Absolutely!!!

  
vinnie said "Support Dairyland and local jobs ppl! Co-op carries dairyland. "

When I found out Lucerne is American based but also has Canadian entities, nope, not supporting them!!  
 
Walmart and Sobey's....please don't support them by buying Lucerne!! We need to support Manitoba!!!

weekend123

11/5/2018 9:52:09 PM
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Nov 2010
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ugh

I hate Lucerne Milk. Is there any places on the north end of Brandon that carries Dairyland? I also dislike having to run all over town for just 1 thing. I haven’t been to Superstore in awhile. What milk do they carry?

PuddleJumper

11/5/2018 10:05:08 PM
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Mar 2006
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****

Lucerne milk is Canadian milk, bottled by Agropur.  
 
The Lucerne trademark in Canada is owned by Sobey's since their purchase of Canada Safeway a few years ago. Yes, it is inherited from Safeway Corporation in the USA, but it is a Canadian product.  
 
It's Canadian milk... Agropur/Sobey's probably gave Walmart a better deal.  
 
Edited by PuddleJumper, 2018-11-05 22:18:57

north of 54

11/5/2018 11:05:15 PM
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Jul 2012
Total posts:200
Really dislike Lucerne milk

as it seemed watery to us and had an off-taste. The other problem was whenever we did buy Lucerne it always spoiled several days before the "best before" date sometimes as much as 5 or 6 days before the date - Dairyland is simply the best - we usually buy it at SDM or Co-op - will look for it at Sobeys the next time I'm there.

Mrs_H

11/5/2018 11:32:15 PM
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Mar 2012
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Lucern milk is the best!!

I used to drive across town to Safeway just to get lucern milk!! I love it! Glad closer places are carrying it now. Interesting how everyone has their favourite brands, even for things as simple as milk

Doug

11/6/2018 2:00:11 AM
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Mar 2005
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No

  
random1983 said "Has anyone else noticed Walmart has gone away from carrying all their great value brand pop and only carries brand name pop now? "

No I dud not. I never buy off brand. I just wait for sales then load up. Milk I stick with dairyland 2 percent when I buy. My wife seeks to like that one percent which is just glorified water. Diets seem to mean having to suffer in some ways.

scandal

11/6/2018 7:43:25 AM
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Oct 2015
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Small son had it right

When my son was little he’d ask for the chocolate milk with the cows on it. I thought he was nuts. Why Dairyland only? I brushed him off as being weird. Fast forward and now I see the difference too. Landmark (the cheap milk) goes bad before the best before date and Lucerne (while having great ice cream) is thick and just doesn’t seem as fresh. I love my Dairyland milk. I guess I should’ve listened to my son 15 years ago when he was requesting the milk with the cows on it.

Flutterby

11/6/2018 8:04:27 AM
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Sep 2007
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Abbysmum

  
Abbysmum said "
  
Grandmama said "Shoppers also sells Dairyland milk. Dairyland is also our preferred brand vs Lucerne.  
 
And on another note, seems like Walmart no longer carries Purex toilet tissue either! "

That's weird too.  
 
While we're on the topic of things not on store shelves, has anyone noticed that whole wheat flour is really hard to find, like anywhere, these days? I've been trying to buy some for weeks! "

You could try whole grain flour. It is sold at Sobeys and Safeway.  
 
It takes a bit to get the hang of how to use it in breads, but once you figure it out, it works very well. You also get a more satisfied fill from it and it brings a nice, slightly nutty flavor to breads. I use it generally anywhere from 1/2 to 100% in my recipes...generally closer to 100%.  
 
I am pretty sure they now put it through a radiation process (probably do this with other flours now too), because it no longer will go rancid if stored at room temperature. I heard it was going to be done at some point.  
 
If you go with this flour, I would be happy to give you some tips.

VTB

11/6/2018 8:43:55 AM
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May 2011
Total posts:126
Almond milk

Read the nutritional label, way better for you than milk. Unsweetened, sometimes with vanilla, and after first glass we developed a preference for it.

Pawprints

11/6/2018 9:13:32 AM
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Apr 2018
Total posts:160
It probably is

  
VTB said "Read the nutritional label, way better for you than milk. Unsweetened, sometimes with vanilla, and after first glass we developed a preference for it. "

Better but we buy the 4 litre jug because our kids go through it like crazy.

Flutterby

11/6/2018 9:14:26 AM
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Sep 2007
Total posts:1213

  
Pawprints said "This is an odd thread but to be honest, I am a tad upset.  
 
Sobey''s and Safeway changed their milk product to Lucerne a while ago. Ok, so I have gone to Walmart because they had Dairyland Milk.  
 
I went to Walmart today and their entire milk section is either empty or is starting to fill with Lucerne. Let me say I HATE Lucerne because it has such a thick and yucky taste!! My Opinion Only!! I was told Walmart has changed their milk distributor. Good God!! They take away people run check outs and now make this change?  
 
Here''s a fun fact.....Lucerne is originally American!  
 
Went to Co-op just to buy Dairyland milk and had to ask if they, too, were going to change to Lucerne. Was told NO, absolutely not because they support MADE IN MANITOBA milk!!  
 
So relieved!!  
 
My question to you is do you notice a difference in milk taste or do you not care? And if you care, will you go out of your way to purchase your choice elsewhere?  
 
Must say I noticed Sobey's do carry Dairyland now. Wonder why?  
 
Edited by Pawprints, 2018-11-05 18:48:35"

To respond to Pawprints....I certainly notice a difference in milk taste. We tried Lucerne...texture & flavor was nasty. We tried Beatrice...same thing. ALL brands of milk in the stores have an odd texture & taste bad, not to mention, upset my stomach like never before. I have had one glass in the past 2 years because I was craving it so badly. When I was younger, I used to drink milk like some drink water. Ew! When I had that one glass, the taste nor texture was not even close to what I wanted. I was extremely disappointed. It was Beatrice that time, by the way...Superstore sells Beatrice (someone asked that earlier). I have no idea why some brands might taste different than others, but I bet it is due to many factors in the milk that they accept and how they handle it.  
 
Anyway, to solve all of this in our household, we did go out of our way to purchase elsewhere (to answer Pawprints' question directly). Yes, I am going to be "that" annoying, small farm person who doesn't mind saying the following...(my apologies to the city folks as I realize your options are involuntarily limited). We bought a jersey cow and now are happily consuming very fresh, unaltered, whole raw milk.  
 
Now THAT is a HUGE improvement and is certainly Manitoba made! It tastes good, has no wierd texture, and my craving & stomach are satisfied once again. My daughter says that it is more satisfying and filling...as it should be. The cream content is so much higher too than in the rip off store bought stuff. It is also not heated and has no plastic (nor whatever else) taste. It tastes good...and for us, saves money as a bonus.  
 
Did you know that that bad taste actually starts at the dairy? First, proper, good normal feed makes a big difference...good milk is made with no silage, no corn, no soy. Then, most feed a supplement to increase milk production. Depending on the supplement, this can make the milk white, not off white as it should be, tasteless (as compared to other whole raw milk), and it has less cream content. The little cream that comes from it is really odd textured, actually, and is not usable as cream. We tried using a dairy-suggested supplement once for one cow for a very short time and observed these changes. That certainly did not last long (yuck).  
 
Then, the raw milk is stored for quite some time in holding tanks before it is picked up and transported to a main facility that is generally not close by. Then when the raw milk is heated, it changes the flavor. Put it in plastic, it changes again. Make it travel a distance one more time, it will affect the flavor again. How much it is handled and how it is handled does make a difference.  
 
Our cows are fed pasture grass or good quality hay, and as their supplement, a treat of barley with mineral at milking time. When we milk, it is by hand (easier to clean & keep clean), cows udder brushed and washed properly, in a clean barn (milk absorbs flavor from everything around), strained through both a milk filter AND clean cloth in one pass into a glass jar, covered tightly (again, flavor absorption issues), then immediately put into the fridge and kept at a constant cold & proper temperature between 0°C & 4°C. From cow's udder to fridge (even with "transport," lol) it might take 5-10 minutes.  
 
I realize that city folks have not had that option as we do for way too many years due to government propaganda and control. But if you are in the country with a bit of land and are still able to work, you at least still have a better choice and should not be complaining. Buy a milk cow.

Flutterby

11/6/2018 9:30:33 AM
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Sep 2007
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VTB

  
VTB said "Read the nutritional label, way better for you than milk. Unsweetened, sometimes with vanilla, and after first glass we developed a preference for it. "

I can't say whether it is better or worse. I don't like the texture nor flavor of either, but what I take into consideration when trying sonething new is by looking at the ingredients list. Generally, these products (which technically are not milk and are no longer supposed to be marketed as such) are jam packed full of synthetic additives. The ingredients list is always WAY more telling for what is in your food, than the nutritional label.  
 
The vanilla that is in your chosen brand...is it vanilla, or vanillin? Your body will respond to them differently, even though they reportedly are chemically "identical." I suspect it will be vanillin, especially now. Vanilla is priced extremely high due to a growers shortage. It is at $400/100 g or something like that now? It has quickly become unavailable. Take a look in the stores and I bet you will now be hard pressed to find vanilla beans and real vanilla extracts. I know that Superstore no longer carries it. It is only a novelty for the rich now.  
 
I know that I am very selective with when I will use my vanilla extract now.

Abbysmum

11/6/2018 9:44:25 AM
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flour

  
Flutterby said "
  
Abbysmum said "
  
Grandmama said "Shoppers also sells Dairyland milk. Dairyland is also our preferred brand vs Lucerne.  
 
And on another note, seems like Walmart no longer carries Purex toilet tissue either! "

That's weird too.  
 
While we're on the topic of things not on store shelves, has anyone noticed that whole wheat flour is really hard to find, like anywhere, these days? I've been trying to buy some for weeks! "

You could try whole grain flour. It is sold at Sobeys and Safeway.  
 
It takes a bit to get the hang of how to use it in breads, but once you figure it out, it works very well. You also get a more satisfied fill from it and it brings a nice, slightly nutty flavor to breads. I use it generally anywhere from 1/2 to 100% in my recipes...generally closer to 100%.  
 
I am pretty sure they now put it through a radiation process (probably do this with other flours now too), because it no longer will go rancid if stored at room temperature. I heard it was going to be done at some point.  
 
If you go with this flour, I would be happy to give you some tips. "

Yeah, I usually use 50% unbleached white and 50% whole wheat when doing any baking (with 5 kids, we bake a ton), which seems to be a balance between nutrition/wholeness and what my family deems acceptable texture. (I personally perfer 100% whole wheat, but they don't agree!)  
 
But I can't find whole wheat except in very small bags... I generally go through a 10kg bag EACH of unbleached and whole wheat every 4-6 weeks. It's driving me nuts, and yes, I notice stuff we make isn't as filling and satisfying for the kids.  
 
To you post about having your own cow - I'm not surprised your Jersey milk is more satisfying. They have a higher fat content compared to milk you normally buy from the store, which is mostly going to be from Holsteins. The milk is blended in the packaging factory to make sure it's a consistent fat content. Also, because of the lack of homogenization in raw milk the fat globules are larger, which is processed differently by your body than the microscopic fat globules in homogenized milk. And finally, the denaturization of the proteins that occurs during pasturization will alter how your body processes it. It will aid disgestion because the accompanying lactase enzyme is intact still, which is why you have an easier time digesting it.

yellowstraw

11/6/2018 9:48:46 AM
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Superstore

Still sells dairyland. Thank goodness. Lucerne is just subpar milk to us too.

Abbysmum

11/6/2018 9:53:39 AM
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depends

  
VTB said "Read the nutritional label, way better for you than milk. Unsweetened, sometimes with vanilla, and after first glass we developed a preference for it. "

It really depends on your definition of "better for you". Store-bought almond milk, besides the fact that almonds are one of the most water-intensive non-animal crops grown primarily in a region prone to drought (although dairy is more water-intensive), is a highly processed food full of thickeners and addititives to give it acceptable taste and texture.  
 
In the grand scheme of things, it's probably a wash between the two if you look at it honestly and o:bjectively. Dairy milk is also highly processed if purchased in-store, but with less additives.  
 
The better thing, health-wise and environmentally, to do is to omit dairy and almond milk altogether. Eat whole almonds instead if you want to nutrition from them. You'll consume far less of them that way vs. what goes into a carton of almond beverage, plus get all the added nutrition from consuming the whole almond in it's natural package.

RC123

11/6/2018 12:00:46 PM
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Jan 2014
Total posts:346
milk

Well bad move for Walmart I imagine. Going to be switching to superstore I guess because I hate Lucerne and by the sounds of things so do a lot of others.  
 
If I could have a cow I would but not enough acres or time. I wish we could buy farm fresh milk because I would.

wheatcitygirl

11/6/2018 12:22:30 PM
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Sep 2011
Total posts:102
Milk

I am not a huge milk drinker...should probably drink more. I don't notice a huge difference in taste but that could be because I usually picked it up at Walmart and it was usually Dairyland....and I don't drink it much so probably don't notice the differences others do.  
However, I do make a serious effort to buy locally. With all Walmart's recent changes I find myself going there less and less. I used to get once a week but only go about once a month now. I have found that most products are around at very comparable prices...so I go elsewhere. I will even pay a little more to avoid going to to the Crazy Centre. I will just watch flyers more and avoid Walmart at all costs if I can't get local products there.

 
 
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