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Marie1955

11/9/2018 10:19:44 AM
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Christmas Lights before Remembrance Day

I never turn the Christmas light on before Remembrance Day and it really makes me mad when people do because it appears that they are saying: well, it's only remembrance day, no big deal. Shame on you, show a little respect for those who have given their lives for our freedom and our way of life. We have a lot to be thankful for. Don't forget to ring a bell as the sun goes down on Sunday and remember the 100th anniversary of the armistice of the great war, 1918.

Edited by admin, 2018-11-09 10:25:36. Reason: Title

Dugr71

11/9/2018 10:37:46 AM
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well

You can look at it another way. All those soldiers fought for our freedom. Including the freedom to decorate, and turn on lights whenever someone pleases. I have spoken with WWII vets who feel this way. Now do we decorate and display essay to early? I certainly think we do, but I do not find it disrespectful in any way.

pinkflamingos

11/9/2018 10:45:07 AM
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Petty

That is the most petty thing I've ever heard. So we can only celebrate one holiday at a time? Wearing a poppy while doing Christmas shopping must be absolute heresy to you.

JANOLE

11/9/2018 10:54:10 AM
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Don't understand

Never understood how turning Christmas lights on before Remembrance day takes away from Remembrance Day. I personally feel its too early to decorate for Christmas at this time but I know people who leave Christmas lights on year round. Each to their own and someone having decorations and lights on does absolutely nothing to me at all so let them do what they want.

Iceman14

11/9/2018 11:02:41 AM
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gets you mad?

  
Marie1955 said "

I never turn the Christmas light on before Remembrance Day and it really makes me mad when people do because it appears that they are saying: well, it's only remembrance day, no big deal. Shame on you, show a little respect for those who have given their lives for our freedom and our way of life. We have a lot to be thankful for. Don't forget to ring a bell as the sun goes down on Sunday and remember the 100th anniversary of the armistice of the great war, 1918.

Edited by admin, 2018-11-09 10:25:36. Reason: Title"


Did you ever think that there are other cultures celebrating their culture? Xmas lights aren't only meant for XMAS.  
 
Did you know there is a healthy population of Hindu's in Brandon. This past week and half they were celebrating Festival of Lights, also knows as Diwali. Lots of houses had their lights on.  
 
Please educate yourself. It is not always about remembrance day. Upmost respect from me for people that served our country.  
 
BTW to everyone, especially Mods and Adam.. this is no way of starting confrontation with anyone. This is a fact.  
 
Edited by Iceman14, 2018-11-09 11:05:58

snowman5

11/9/2018 11:08:24 AM
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Well...

I leave them off until after the Grey Cup. I'm one of the few who enjoys Christmas, but hate having it shovel down my throat. The music before December, the stores displays up at Halloween and already with the commercials & early Black Friday specials. ...I'm already starting to gag. How did a holiday season that once ran one to two weeks, turn into a two and a half month venture? Yes, that's how long it's now stretched out! From before Oct. 31st to just after the Orthodox celebration. It's almost to the length of an actual season!  
 
Look, I know it's about personal choice and it's simply about a string of lights outside some houses... But, give it a rest. Many of us don't want to be reminded that we have only six weeks left of spending too much on shopping.  
 
Just my opinion, I could be wrong.

Cheezies

11/9/2018 11:19:27 AM
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Oct 2010
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Light

  
Marie1955 said "

I never turn the Christmas light on before Remembrance Day and it really makes me mad when people do because it appears that they are saying: well, it's only remembrance day, no big deal. Shame on you, show a little respect for those who have given their lives for our freedom and our way of life. We have a lot to be thankful for. Don't forget to ring a bell as the sun goes down on Sunday and remember the 100th anniversary of the armistice of the great war, 1918.

Edited by admin, 2018-11-09 10:25:36. Reason: Title"


If a colourful light ( as that’s all it is), distracts you from remembering on Remembrance Day, that’s on you. Should all lights be shut off from Halloween till November 12th? What’s the difference between coloured ones and white outdoor light? I don’t decorate for just the upcoming holiday, I decorate because I find it pretty, in the blah cold early nightfall weather. Are we not supposed to like pretty things while we remember? I’m pretty sure they fought for Freedom and not to make sure we live in a dull colourless world for two weeks every year, remembering them. For what it’s worth, we remember all year round their sacrifice, not just one time a year.  
You should focus on yourself, and let others focus on themselves.  
So shame on you for judging how some people celebrate their freedom.  
To all our vets, we thank you so very much for your service. And to current vets, may our colourful lights help guide you home.

Simonwalcal

11/9/2018 11:22:27 AM
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*sigh*

It always happens at this time of year. The Christmas V Remembrance day clash. The time between October 31st and November 11th wherein one is almost certain to find some social media blowup about something offensive in the context of the day of remembrance.  
 
Last year it was a dollar store down east with a no third party items on counter space ruling (no poppies here, folks). The year before that, it was a store in St Piere Jolys that was allegedly taking the high road by not stocking Christmas items until after the 11th.  
Sometimes it''''s complaints about Christmas lights on this early. Sometimes it''''s the retailers doing the season preparation too early.  
 
None of this matters, folks. So long as we don''''t lose sight of WHY we do these things in the first place.  
 
Looking at the state of the world (and in turn, the changing state of Canadian politics), this message is starting to get lost.  
When one loses sight of the point, all you have left are symbols and pageantry. I speak only for myself, but THAT is far more offensive than any pre-11th of November holiday display or promotional campaign.  
 
Edited by Simonwalcal, 2018-11-09 11:24:10

Shebear

11/9/2018 11:47:18 AM
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hi

Maybe we could take red lights and make it into a poppy shape and show that  
i dont think showing christmas lights before Nov 11 is wrong, people aren't forgetting Rememerance Day or their prescious family who died in the wars for all of our freedom, maybe they turn on the lights for christmas but also have the lights shine for those who died aswell. This world has enough crap and violence and evil / hate in it, lets enjoy the simple things and be thankful we can still celebrate these things and dont have those rights taken away from pc'ness!!!!!!!!!! We need the memories and little bits of happiness we can get to survive the self entitled, me me me , narsist world we are getting at times lol

Trevor B

11/9/2018 11:47:59 AM
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Apr 2005
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Can

someone show me anywhere it says you cannot have holiday lights going prior to Remembrance Day? Does the Canadian Legion have any issues?  
 
I get that people don't like that the holiday season seems to start earlier every year, but stop claiming it's disrespecting Veterans and Remembrance Day.

Shebear

11/9/2018 12:00:44 PM
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Aug 2013
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And

Buy a elderly person a muffin and coffee, or with parents permission of course surprise a litle girl/boy with a toy or gift card from somewhere a total stranger or a nieghbor you haven''t met, check in on a elderly person and bring them a treat, go visit some vets and shake their hand thanking them and offer to buy them lunch and listen to their story, just smile at someone or compliment them, or if you see someone is short on change at a til help pay for that or part of their groceries (like a single mom), or take a homeless person for something to eat, these are diff things you can do throughout the year in honor of rememberance day, christmas, every day etc etc and try and be thankful for what you have even if it isnt like the jone's (or todays society the kardashians lol)  
 
Edited by Shebear, 2018-11-09 12:03:15

Brenda..

11/9/2018 12:12:53 PM
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Jul 2005
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Veterans

  
Marie1955 said "

I never turn the Christmas light on before Remembrance Day and it really makes me mad when people do because it appears that they are saying: well, it's only remembrance day, no big deal. Shame on you, show a little respect for those who have given their lives for our freedom and our way of life. We have a lot to be thankful for. Don't forget to ring a bell as the sun goes down on Sunday and remember the 100th anniversary of the armistice of the great war, 1918.

Edited by admin, 2018-11-09 10:25:36. Reason: Title"


exactly as you said - for our freedom, to do as we want.  
 
Many have said they have no issue (being close with members at CFB Shilo)  
 
I do not put mine up this early, but to those that do, go ahead, the vets believe it to be your right, your freedom they fought for.  
 
I personally think our world is in so much more trouble than when to put up Christmas Lights.

melsey

11/9/2018 12:54:41 PM
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Jul 2010
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....

So, is it ok for a veteran to put up lights before Nov 11?. My husband who served 25 years says yes. In fact he leaves ours up all year because he likes them.

don brown

11/9/2018 1:07:46 PM
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Christmas lights

Maybe look at all the Christmas lights, and put a new meaning on them in the days up to Remembrance Day. View each light of a loss of life in war, not only for those who gave the ultimate sacrifice, but to any person who suffered from the horrors of war.

Adam

11/9/2018 1:12:50 PM
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Mar 2005
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Remembrance Day

I respect that there are folks that share your opinion and have an emotionally well-intentioned reason for it.... but guess I personally see things differently.  
 
My grandpa was a vet, is buried in the veterans section of the cemetery and he also just happened to be one of the big light display houses in town a few decades ago (going as far as winning awards). One of the biggest challenges with living in this part of the world and putting together a big light display is obviously the weather. The sooner you get get things put together the better chance you have of beating ground freeze up ... and the more time you can spend doing work that often needs bare hands.  
 
Remembrance Day on the calendar means a lot. Its a day to reflect on sacrifices by so many in the name of what we have today. We’ll all remember, reflect and pay respect in unique ways and as long as something isn’t overtly malicious or ignorant I dont see the need for one person to tell another how to remember. In my case its a tip of the cap to grandpa and the biggest hobby he took on in his years after returning from the war overseas. Doing that has no bearing on my taking part in the more traditional ways of paying respect to him, to others who werent as fortunate to make it back and everyone thats fought for us to have the chances we have today. 

sammy

11/9/2018 1:52:24 PM
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..

I’ve never understand the logic behind this. Are you saying that people aren’t capable of celebrating more than one thing at once? Where does the disrespect come in? How is it disrespectful? I just don’t get it  
 
If someone puts on Christmas lights and attends a ceremony, are they worse than the person who doesn’t light up until after the 11th but didn’t attend a ceremony? Who decides which is more respectful?  
 
Those who fought for our freedom deserve respect year round. Should we never celebrate another holiday?

Pawprints

11/9/2018 2:47:34 PM
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Apr 2018
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Can you imagine

Living in a third world country where bombings etc are the norm? Can you imagine being a person who sees nothing but explosions and fire? I can't and pray I never do.  
So to those that feel it is disrespectful, I say, I would rather see Christmas lights light up our skies, streets, and windows and thank those veterans for allowing us the freedom to do so! That is how I would show my respect!

Cadbury Creme Egg

11/9/2018 3:55:05 PM
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Xmas tree

I’m thinking I’ll put my tree up tomorrow, I’ll be too busy in the next few weekends to do it, so tomorrow is perfect. Offended? Don’t come over

melsey

11/9/2018 7:03:30 PM
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....

So, is it ok for a veteran to put up lights before Nov 11?. My husband who served 25 years says yes. In fact he leaves ours up all year because he likes them.

*enter name here*

11/9/2018 7:13:37 PM
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Nov 2008
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Never

Never will I ever understand how this upsets people. Why do you let what others do have such an effect on your life? How does this hurt anyone? Just because someone has their decorations/lights on does not mean they are skipping over Remembrance Day. I usually put my stuff up November 1, and I've had people tell me it's disrespectful. When I've asked how they are unable to give me a reasonable answer. Stop letting what others so make you so upset. I don't care when you put your stuff up, so don't worry about when I do it. My Grandfather fought in WWII so I could be free to do things how I wanted and everyday I am thankful for that.

Shebear

11/9/2018 7:17:30 PM
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hi

my neighbor in my apt bldg is a war vet who was given the title of Sir and awards and letter from Harper for his part in the war, he's just a big sweety at 97 and a couple of the things he told me war wise, I for the life of me dont know if I could handle seeing/experiencing the things he did. To all who have fought, came home, and those who didnt (incl members of my own family), I can't thank you enough for what all of you have done are doing and will do for us Canadians. Like I said in my other post, honor rememberance day everyday in some way if you can.... because the things these guys deal with in their memories is like it just happend yesterday....

veloster

11/9/2018 7:19:29 PM
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To me

It is a matter of respect.Lights stay off and I don't shop or buy anything on The 11th. That includes working I sacrifice what ever I can to honor what they sacrificed for me. They could no longer do any of the things I can do so for one day a year I don't do anything but watch documentaries and story's about them and remember

Shebear

11/9/2018 7:47:04 PM
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hi

  
veloster said "It is a matter of respect.Lights stay off and I don't shop or buy anything on The 11th. That includes working I sacrifice what ever I can to honor what they sacrificed for me. They could no longer do any of the things I can do so for one day a year I don't do anything but watch documentaries and story's about them and remember "

that's so sweet

Never been

11/9/2018 8:30:19 PM
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“That includes working”???

Not all of us have the luxury of taking the day off- Eg. Police, firefighters, nurses, doctors. I will be at work on Remembrance Day, thinking of those who served

Trevor B

11/9/2018 9:47:47 PM
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Apr 2005
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Observe

Remembrance Day the way you want to, if you don't want anything Christmas, fine. But telling others how to observe and dictating what a person can and can't do is not okay.

Trevor B

11/9/2018 10:17:42 PM
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Yep

  
*enter name here* said "Never will I ever understand how this upsets people. Why do you let what others do have such an effect on your life? How does this hurt anyone? Just because someone has their decorations/lights on does not mean they are skipping over Remembrance Day. I usually put my stuff up November 1, and I've had people tell me it's disrespectful. When I've asked how they are unable to give me a reasonable answer. Stop letting what others so make you so upset. I don't care when you put your stuff up, so don't worry about when I do it. My Grandfather fought in WWII so I could be free to do things how I wanted and everyday I am thankful for that. "

I have not seen anything that says how you must observe Remembrance Day. There's nothing that says putting up or turning on Christmas lights is disrespectful. The Canadian Legion has their way of doing the ceremony. Otherwise observe it the way you want.  
 
http://www.legion.ca/docs/default-source/by-laws-and-policies/ritual-awards-and-protocol-manual.pdf?sfvrsn=4

BlueBranch

11/10/2018 10:05:21 AM
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Apr 2016
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Seriously?

Why cant someone who loves Christmas or who's kids or grandkids love Christmas, start to celebrate when they want? I can love Christmas and decorate for Christmas WHILE still showing mad respect for our vets.  
Its mind blowing to me how people think the two events have anything to do with one another.  
My birthday is the beginning of November, can I not celebrate it? What about someones birthday who falls on the 11th? Are they not allowed to celebrate it either?  
Its ridiculous that this is such a heated topic year after year.

Trevor B

11/10/2018 4:18:34 PM
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Apr 2005
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It's like the

BS outrage over people saying Happy Holidays instead of Merry Christmas. Christmas is only ONE day and ONE holiday in a time of many other holidays clustered around the Winter Solstice.

 
 
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