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lazyintellectual

3/21/2011 9:54:13 AM
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Egotisim

Another thread got me thinking about egos.  
 
Do you have an big ego or are you humble? Somewhere inbetween?  
 
How do you feel about others with big egos? Do you feel like you connect with them on a level, or feel like you should take them down a notch?  
 
Any other thoughts on egotisim certainly welcome!

 
 
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2.1

3/21/2011 10:28:10 AM
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Humble.  
 
Ego, the number one enemy of compassion.  
 
Mankind and his belief that he can do better than nature...we can all see where that has got us.  
 
The ego is your false self.  
 
"E"dge "G"od "O"ut...EGO

lazyintellectual

3/21/2011 10:30:51 AM
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lmao...

Are you calling yourself humble..."hotgrandpa"?  
 
I have read many, many of your posts and "humble" is not a word I would use to describe you. Are you sure your not in "super ego" mode when online?

2.1

3/21/2011 10:38:58 AM
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lol

  
random said "Are you calling yourself humble..."hotgrandpa"?  
 
I have read many, many of your posts and "humble" is not a word I would use to describe you. Are you sure your not in "super ego" mode when online? "

Never said I wasn't opinionated...there's a difference if you examine the meanings.  
 
The biggest issue people have with my posts has to do with their thin skin and unwillingness to look beneath the surface of any given topic.  
 
As soon as someone delves into the core of any problem, people get all freaked out...it's funny.

traveller

3/21/2011 10:39:06 AM
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i agree !!

  
random said "Are you calling yourself humble..."hotgrandpa"?  
 
I have read many, many of your posts and "humble" is not a word I would use to describe you. Are you sure your not in "super ego" mode when online? "

yep i wouldn't call gramps humble lol  
 
 
i think i'm humble but l know a few that would say otherwise lol so maybe inbetween

Michelle Budiwski

3/21/2011 10:39:10 AM
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Ego

I have a huge ego. I have worked hard to become who I am and where I am in life and I am proud of that fact. I thhhink that humility is forced upon us as children - that we were told not to be vain, not to brag to stay understated and humble - and as women this damaged our self-esteem.  
 
Be proud of who you are, be confident and strong and sure of yourself - proud of your accomplishments and be willing to share them.  
 
You can have a big ego and still be compassionate and empathetic and kind - those qualities are not exclusive to each other.

The Brilliant Captain Obvious

3/21/2011 10:45:09 AM
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Honestly

I'm slightly past the midway point (and not in the direction of humble, lol).  
I think it more depends on what you mean by ego, I have complete confidence in myself and my abilities. I have no delusions of grandeur or anything of the like, but I do have a good strong opinion of myself and my abilities. The topics/subjects that I know, I know well. And those that I don't I generally let be (or will take time to learn about first before commenting on).  
I don't necessarily mind people with big egos so long as they can actually back it up. Its the people without substance and a big ego who annoy me. If people are going to have an inflated feeling of pride, they at least ought to have something to be proud of.

craftymom

3/21/2011 10:45:41 AM
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actually..

Having met HG in real life, I would for sure call him humble, and compassionate.  
 
I think people with big egos are the people that think they are better than others, and that drives me nuts.. I believe we are all equals regardless of status or accomplishments.. But for the grace of God go I...  
You can be proud of yourself and confident, but when you think you are better, or have more worth, or more important than anyone else, that crosses a line IMO..

lazyintellectual

3/21/2011 10:49:46 AM
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I often...

  
hotgrandpa stage 2 said "
  
random said "Are you calling yourself humble..."hotgrandpa"?  
 
I have read many, many of your posts and "humble" is not a word I would use to describe you. Are you sure your not in "super ego" mode when online? "

Never said I wasn't opinionated...there's a difference if you examine the meanings.  
 
The biggest issue people have with my posts has to do with their thin skin and unwillingness to look beneath the surface of any given topic.  
 
As soon as someone delves into the core of any problem, people get all freaked out...it's funny. "

Find you have very valid points, intelligent, look beyond the basic realm. However, your delivery is generally crass, pompus, and condesending. The tone of a message is often more important than the words.  
 
Butterfly, I agree, ego is important, I do not find people attractive for friendship or relationships that have no ego, or self esteem or strong opinions on a subject even if they differ from my own. I find being modest and humble is soley for the benifit of others, not my own wellbeing.

Clever Monkey

3/21/2011 10:53:03 AM
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mmm, false etymologies

"E"dge "G"od "O"ut...EGO  
 
I assume you're not trying to say that the word "ego" is an acronym, since in fact it's derived from the Latin word for "I":  
 
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=ego&searchmode=phrase  
 
 
 

lazyintellectual

3/21/2011 11:01:06 AM
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I do...

Think those things about myself, among many other good qualities I have. Why not?  
 
Nelle, you look like a beautiful girl, why would you not think it yourself?  
 

Nicole.S

3/21/2011 11:20:59 AM
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OMG

  
Nelle said "I would say somewhere in between...  
 
I don't think of myself as "hot, sexy" or anything .  
 
But I am opinionated, very opinionated. And if I know I am right, I'll back it up.  
"

OMG why NOT?? lol... Every women should think of her self that way... If you feel that way you'll come across that way and THAT IS sexy!  
 
There is a big difference btween feeling hot and sexy and having a huge ego... The ones with big egos also have attitudes, are stuck up and, think they can have anyone just because they are... They think they're TO good for everyone.  
 
And who said someone can't be beautiful AND smart? :-)  
 
Edited by TornadoMeetsVolcano, 2011-03-21 11:23:53

Connected2News

3/21/2011 11:22:32 AM
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Butterflymbca said "I have a huge ego. I have worked hard to become who I am and where I am in life and I am proud of that fact. I thhhink that humility is forced upon us as children - that we were told not to be vain, not to brag to stay understated and humble - and as women this damaged our self-esteem.  
 
Be proud of who you are, be confident and strong and sure of yourself - proud of your accomplishments and be willing to share them.  
 
You can have a big ego and still be compassionate and empathetic and kind - those qualities are not exclusive to each other. "

As people it has damaged self-esteem. Everything isn't always about repressing women, eh? Little boys are told just as much that pride is a sin.

2.1

3/21/2011 11:26:13 AM
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You know what's great though...what anyone thinks of me is none of my business, so really, I just take what I like and the rest under advisement.  
 
Most folks in the world, on the other hand, allow for their 10,000 reputations to cause them gut wrenching grief.  
 
It's true, I like to make a splash, but not to make me look better, more so to fire up the neural pathways; get people to think of things in a different way, even if it pisses them off.  
 
I can have a strong opinion on a subject that I'm passionate about, then certain individuals say, oh, you're so full of yourself.  
 
Doesn't matter whether I'm right or wrong, it's my "opinion".  
 
Take the ego for example, most people won't look any further than the most basic definitions of the ego, don't care to delve into the psychology of the ego or the false self, but they're sure ready, willing and enthusiastic to jump on someone for their opinions.  
 
Very few people actually get it or want to get it or maybe even know there's something to get.  
 
Clever Monkey...correct, just something I read, made sense to me.  
 
Craftymom...thank you, I think of you as one of the Angels that live among us and it was a privilege to meet you; always hoping everything is well with you and yours.(smiles)  
 

Imknadian

3/21/2011 11:35:30 AM
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I'd be more humble....

...if I had a reason to be.

2.1

3/21/2011 11:41:03 AM
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Nelle, like your style: much of what we think is total bullshit anyways, in regards to ourselves.  
 
It's when we think and care deeply for others before ourselves...THAT, is when your true self shines through and that is beautiful, sexy and hot...it's a subtle thing.  
 
When your life is run by your ego and you think you're this or that, then, if you lose this or that, according to your ego, you cease to exist.  
 
Does that make sense?  
 
Great topic random.  
 
Edited by hotgrandpa stage 2, 2011-03-21 11:42:02

Slimmmerman

3/21/2011 11:59:12 AM
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I agree...

  
Nicole.S said "
  
Nelle said "I would say somewhere in between...  
 
I don't think of myself as "hot, sexy" or anything .  
 
But I am opinionated, very opinionated. And if I know I am right, I'll back it up.  
"

OMG why NOT?? lol... Every women should think of her self that way... If you feel that way you'll come across that way and THAT IS sexy!  
 
There is a big difference btween feeling hot and sexy and having a huge ego... The ones with big egos also have attitudes, are stuck up and, think they can have anyone just because they are... They think they're TO good for everyone.  
 
And who said someone can't be beautiful AND smart? :-)  
 
Edited by TornadoMeetsVolcano, 2011-03-21 11:23:53"

There is nothing wrong with feeling sexy! Feeling beautiful is important to your self esteem. There is a BIG difference between feeling beautiful and having a big ego. Big ego is the same as arrogance which makes beautiful people seem ugly. Feeling beautiful inspires confidence which in turn is sexy as long as it doesn't stretch into vanity...  
 
Kind of a vicious circle!

lazyintellectual

3/21/2011 12:07:55 PM
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Why thanks, it is a great topic...

Hotgrandpa, we all have our super egos, and self actualizations (this is the one I want to talk about).  
 
Thinking/knowing that you are this and that can help or hinder anyones attitude. If you think that you are bad, your going to feel bad, if you do things that go against your moral grain, you are going to feel bad about it. Major cause of depression. So you either have to change what you are doing, or change the way that you look at it.  
 
Same could be said for ego. If you think/know that you are good at something, it makes you feel good to do it, you are going to feel better about yourself, your attitude towards your own self and others is going to be in a better disposition, when you do this, or feel this.  
 
I am not talking about the hypocrital super ego's we all have, the what we perceive ourselves to be, whether we actually practice the morals that we preach. I am talking about our true egos, the real one, that people are not faking or fabricating.

Trent Bartley

3/21/2011 12:11:42 PM
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I've been..

... told MANY times that Humulity is just ONE of my AMAZING qualities...  

lazyintellectual

3/21/2011 12:13:25 PM
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hahahaha

  
Trent Bartley said "... told MANY times that Humulity is just ONE of my AMAZING qualities...  
"

Obviously, a true statement! lol

Ryan_M

3/21/2011 12:35:22 PM
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I do think of myself as hot and sexy

I'm always right and my mom says I'm cool.  
 
 
 
Now go ahead and discuss your trivial matters...I can barely see you from way up here.

lazyintellectual

3/21/2011 1:04:00 PM
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curious...

  
Ryan_M said "I'm always right and my mom says I'm cool.  
 
 
 
Now go ahead and discuss your trivial matters...I can barely see you from way up here. "

Why do you see it as trivial? A persons ego can make or break them, a friendship, a relationship, how they feel about themselves and others. It is very important.

na

3/21/2011 2:02:46 PM
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random said "Another thread got me thinking about egos.  
 
Do you have an big ego or are you humble? Somewhere inbetween?  
 
How do you feel about others with big egos? Do you feel like you connect with them on a level, or feel like you should take them down a notch?  
 
Any other thoughts on egotisim certainly welcome! "

I like to think of myself as modest, but wether that comes across to other people, i dont know.  
People with big egos imo tend to be irratating morons, so its something ide rather not also be like. But i know, someone has to buy them big ford gas-guzzling half ton trucks.

lazyintellectual

3/21/2011 2:07:01 PM
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lmao!

  
My2CeNtS said "
  
random said "Another thread got me thinking about egos.  
 
Do you have an big ego or are you humble? Somewhere inbetween?  
 
How do you feel about others with big egos? Do you feel like you connect with them on a level, or feel like you should take them down a notch?  
 
Any other thoughts on egotisim certainly welcome! "

I like to think of myself as modest, but wether that comes across to other people, i dont know.  
People with big egos imo tend to be irratating morons, so its something ide rather not also be like. But i know, someone has to buy them big ford gas-guzzling half ton trucks. "

I have always seen those kinds of trucks and flashy cars as for those lacking in a real sense of self, and therefore have to "buy" a false ego. That or lacking in other areas of endowment! lol  
 

morethanenough

3/21/2011 2:07:36 PM
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Seriously??

Egotism and humility have absolutely nothing to do with self-confidence. If anything, I'd say it's the other way around. The way I see it, egotism is a wall people build to hide behind; it keeps others from seeing the real "me". Self-confidence comes from within, it is a realistic view of who we are, not based on what others think of us, but on who we are, and from my personal view, on who God thinks we are. Humility comes not from a low view of oneself, but from putting others ahead of us, thinking of their needs over ours; it doesn't involve letting ourselves get walked on or thinking we are lower than everyone, it's simply considering others before ourselves. That said... I can't answer which one I am, only that I aim to be a person of humility. And HotGrandpa said it right... Edge God Out... unfortunately it edges everyone out.

Hman

3/21/2011 2:08:05 PM
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Yayy

Just keep yourself in check. Be you. Why? That's the way it is.

2.1

3/21/2011 2:53:59 PM
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random said "Hotgrandpa, we all have our super egos, and self actualizations (this is the one I want to talk about).  
 
Thinking/knowing that you are this and that can help or hinder anyones attitude. If you think that you are bad, your going to feel bad, if you do things that go against your moral grain, you are going to feel bad about it. Major cause of depression. So you either have to change what you are doing, or change the way that you look at it.  
 
Same could be said for ego. If you think/know that you are good at something, it makes you feel good to do it, you are going to feel better about yourself, your attitude towards your own self and others is going to be in a better disposition, when you do this, or feel this.  
 
I am not talking about the hypocrital super ego's we all have, the what we perceive ourselves to be, whether we actually practice the morals that we preach. I am talking about our true egos, the real one, that people are not faking or fabricating. "

While demeanor plays a part, it's more of a stumbling block for people because they struggle with the looking past of the demeanor, to see or understand the intent or message.  
 
To say that I have a long way to go would be an understatement, most people are in that boat: self actualising people rarely think about what they don't want, instead, they focus on what will have a better opportunity of getting themselves to where they want to be.  
 
And yes, imo, that has everything to do with egocentricity, in that the two are exact opposites of one another.  
 
In order to get where you want to be, you have to take your eye off of "I" and put it on others.  
 
This is what "The Secret" missed in the secret of manifesting...you state to yourself what you want, then detach from that and simultaneously want it more for someone else than you do for yourself.  
 
Therefore, the smaller your ego, the more power you have.  
 
The oceans derive all their might by staying low...while all the tributaries flow into them.  
 
I'm paraphrasing much of that dialogue, but that's what I study, you could say that I'm a "humble" student of essence.  
 
The most effective managers are not the ones with the big head, rather, they are the ones that stay in the background with quiet confidence, allowing people to manage themselves, gently encouraging: and instead of building some one's ego with praise, they allow people to build their own self worth by supplying a climate for them to succeed.  
 
This is the key to parenting as well: when we as parents quit being total blockheads and realise that our children are the teachers and we are the students.  
 
Parody occurs when a humble parent recognises that truth and shares a true mutual respect with their children.  
 
Your self worth is only worth something when you value others as equals, no matter the illusion of status.  
 
Wow!!! I still struggle with that everyday, but I tell ya...when you have those mojo moments along the way, it's almost euphoric.  
 
The age old dilemma, I suppose...if I knew back then what I know now, or youth is wasted on the young.  
 
Both of those are total bullshit btw, and a complete waste of energy to contemplate.  
 
One of my favorite quotes...  
 
“If you want to feel connected to your own purpose, know this for certain: Your purpose will only be found in service to others, and in being connected to the something far greater than your mind/body/ego.” Wayne Dyer  
 
A little off track again I am, but I wonder how people view the act of praise when it concerns your children.  
 
Reward and punishment, imo, create a very suffocating environment for our children: as we can see in society, one can be addicted to either, but I believe both are self defeating in that they both crave attention, making a person dependent on that attention to function.  
 
Important to remember that we were kids too: this process in society is essentially like the domestication of animals and I hope we agree that through the bombardment of many, many "NO'S" and a lifetime of do this, don't do that...this has caused a whole lot of rebellion along with anger, hatred, feelings of low self worth, etc..  
 
Some escape the worst of scenarios: I know people that obviously found a way, from an early age to block that from entering their consciousness...you know them when they enter the room, it's like an aura or magnetism: you just feel good when they are present and you can't detect any ego...and they're demeanor is soft, yet they control the atmosphere of the room so effortlessly.  
 
Charisma doesn't even describe it, they exude humility and simultaneously show virtually no ego.  
 
When I'm around people like that, I feel like I could be like that: and that tells me the awesome power of that kind of character of nature...you know? Like if we could start planting that seed into our culture, what would our society look like, how long would it take to consume, filter and produce an ego less world.  
 
Kinda like trees do with pollution...consume it and produce life giving oxygen for us to breathe.  
 
Speaking of which, hey, we should start planting more trees eh?  
 
I want to be like water...I mean, I'm almost all water anyway.  
 
As always, I feel I should apologize for my meandering mind, but I enjoy it, so to hell with that.  
 
Last note: Practising what you preach...yeah, if ya stand on a pulpit and preach a way of life and then live the opposite, that's one thing: but if you deliver the same message and temper it with been the other way, done the other things and I'm a work in progress as well, please be patient with me...I don't have a problem with that: it's a reciprocal thing, imo, ya know? Who wants to cast the first poo poo?  

don brown

3/21/2011 3:44:57 PM
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Ego

I don't know if I have a big ego or not, that question could likely be answered by those who know me. There are things that I can do very well and there are things that I am terrible at and I would just as soon keep the things that I can do well to myself.  
 
There was a comment about flashy cars and the like, but I had a car once, that was a pretty fast sports car, and the reason I had it had more to do with the pleasure that I got from being able to have it running at 100%, and also because I like speed and the challenge of controlling something that would test my limits.  
 
One thing that I have learned from life, and maybe an ego, is that "pride does come before a fall".

Sandy

3/21/2011 4:10:47 PM
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Be you..

  
Hman said "Just keep yourself in check. Be you. Why? That's the way it is. "

We keep our egos in check when we continually nurture our awareness of who we really are.  
 
But like all things in life, ego functions best when it is in balance and harmony with ones whole self: then our egos are free to serve without trying ineffectually to rule and are simply useful tools.

crop

3/21/2011 4:11:47 PM
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recently

In person.. I've found it in myself to encourage and build up those who seem to have a big ego. Because I know those who act like they have one are really overcompensating for low self esteem. This is the odd person that really really does this they are all that though.

 
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