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plus zero

8/10/2016 8:46:22 PM
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pick up driver talking to cyclist

I am not asking replies but only this message goes to the pickup driver in medium color hair at 3:40 pm today talking to the cyclist in pink shirt just few feet from the traffic circle on 34th St and Richmond Ave.  
You talked to me then you drove off not giving me time to reply to you so here it is for you: DO NOT TELL ME AGAIN to bike on the bike path along Richmond Ave because I have the right to bike on the streets, I was biking on the shoulder (right white line) so not in the way of anybody. I bike there everyday and will keep bike there everyday same way I do not bother nobody if you have an issue or do not like it then next time turn on 26th Street then you won't have to put up seeing me. I do not bike crazy and give respect and space to drivers so I expect the same from drivers.  
I haven't done anything wrong so don't talk to me again.  
My chance for this driver to see this message isn't big but hope he sees it

 
 
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plus zero

8/10/2016 9:08:57 PM
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wow

this is ridiculous. Few years ago I was told by a by-law-officer to bike on the street not on the sidewalk so I did and NOW I get the word gonads.  
I get told to follow the rules now I get told I'm crazy. I find crazy are those biking all over without looking as if they own the streets and think they have the right of way everywhere they go.

hockeydad

8/10/2016 9:11:35 PM
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Mar 2012
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Licensed

Is your bike licensed? And why would you bike on the street when there is a BIKE path right there? A BIKE path is different than a sidewalk. I would think the BIKE path would be safer for you and the motorists.

Luckydog

8/10/2016 10:27:28 PM
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City cycling

I commute across the city daily on my bike, I rarely ride on the paths, particularly in the 34th and Richmond area, first the paths on Richmond heading east are extremely rough particularly if you a faster rider, even with a front suspension bike, and one you get to 26th they end.  
 
second It's dangerous to ride on the paths at a decent pace during peak times, as they are often full of pedestrians, leisure cyclists runners, kids, strollers, pokemon hunters, many of which are wearing headphones, it much safer on the streets.  
 
A bike does not need to be licensed there is no laws for that, I use the same common sense riding on the road on my bike as I do driving my truck or car. I cycle anywhere from 30-50 kph in the city, and often keep pace with traffic, I use the right hand side of the lane, and stay within a meter of the curb, I stop behind the stop lines, and ensure turning cars have the room to turn right in front of me on a red.  
 
90% of drivers in Brandon are really good, 5% are too cautious, and are afraid to share the lane, I always leave as much room as I can, if your driving a normal car or truck, you should have plenty of room. The other 5 percent are dbags most of which are city bus drivers, or jacked up diesels, and some guy driving a white truck with a red local "paving company" logo that always blazes by me as close as possible and then rides the curb at lights, so I can't pull up to the stop line, but I'll fix him, not a smart idea when you have a company logo on your truck!  
 
This shouldn't be anew concept, bikes and vehicles have shared the road for decades, and in many cities, in equal numbers, we all just need to be considerate of each other's space.

ultraguy

8/11/2016 10:00:54 AM
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I agree that I prefer to ride on the road. But you should not be passing vehicles on the right when at a stop sign or red light. Wait in line with the cars as if you were driving a car.

Triplethreat

8/11/2016 10:29:58 AM
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Why Are We Wasting Tax Dollars On Bicycle Paths?

So, you're saying that there is a bicycle path along side the street, but you prefer to ride on the street? Is there something wrong with the bicycle path? This is something that has always irked me as a driver, the fact that some cyclists insist on riding on the street when there's a perfectly good bicycle path adjacent to, running along side the street. My personal belief is that the cyclists who do this just want to be in the face of drivers. As a cyclist, I was glad to have bicycle paths to ride on, but then I'm also a car owner too, so I don't have a grudge against motorists like some cyclists do. I'm the last person to ever say "there ought to be a law", but I would actually have no problem with a law that would require cyclists to use the bicycle path when there is a bicycle path beside the street. Also, it's a huge waste of taxpayers money to be building bicycle paths, if cyclists are going to refuse to use them, after constantly whining that they want more of them, and choose to ride on the street that runs along side the bicycle path instead. But then, as I said earlier, some cyclists just want to get in the face of car drivers.

maggielouise

8/11/2016 10:59:48 AM
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OP is right

It is also a walking path and is very well utilized by walkers, joggers, strollers pushers, dog walkers. If the cyclist feels more comfortable on the road and knows the rules who are you as a motorist to try to intimidate him.

ultraguy

8/11/2016 11:00:48 AM
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The bicycle path is also for pedestrians. It''s basically a sidewalk with a bit more space for bicycles. If going for a leisurely ride with kids, then it''s a great place to be. Think of it as a multipurpose sidewalk instead of just a path dedicated for bicycles. Multipurpose sidewalks are not a waste of tax money any more than a typical sidewalk is.  
 
If riding at faster than jogging speed, I find the road to be safer than bicycle paths. The main problem I find with bicycle paths is that they are too crowded with people wandering all over the place. Little kids, people with pets on long leashes, people staring at phones weaving back and forth, etc. Pedestrians do not expect a bicycle to come up behind them at a significant speed. The final straw for me was when I was passing by an old man who suddenly decided to move into my way and crouch down to pick up a coin on the ground. I dodged him by swerving into the bushes. After that I started using the road more often, drivers are more predictable than pedestrians.  
 
Edited by ultraguy, 2016-08-11 11:02:12

JessieJay

8/11/2016 11:01:44 AM
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Triplethreat

Did you not read Luckydog's post? It set out several very good reasons for not riding on the bike path-wxactlt ted exactly "what is wrong" with that bike path.

batoochie

8/11/2016 11:11:22 AM
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Jul 2015
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This

  
ultraguy said "The bicycle path is also for pedestrians. It''s basically a sidewalk with a bit more space for bicycles. If going for a leisurely ride with kids, then it''s a great place to be. Think of it as a multipurpose sidewalk instead of just a path dedicated for bicycles. Multipurpose sidewalks are not a waste of tax money any more than a typical sidewalk is.  
 
If riding at faster than jogging speed, I find the road to be safer than bicycle paths. The main problem I find with bicycle paths is that they are too crowded with people wandering all over the place. Little kids, people with pets on long leashes, people staring at phones weaving back and forth, etc. Pedestrians do not expect a bicycle to come up behind them at a significant speed. The final straw for me was when I was passing by an old man who suddenly decided to move into my way and crouch down to pick up a coin on the ground. I dodged him by swerving into the bushes. After that I started using the road more often, drivers are more predictable than pedestrians.  
 
Edited by ultraguy, 2016-08-11 11:02:12"

Maybe if you gave us warning we wouldn't be so surprised. A loud "on your left" or even a bike horn. It's absolutely never my intention to get in your way but if you sneek up on me quickly how am I to know?

ultraguy

8/11/2016 11:17:44 AM
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A good idea, but I found that it doesn''t work when people are wearing headphones. Unfortunately they seem to be the ones most likely to weave about as they are walking.  
 
Edited by ultraguy, 2016-08-11 11:19:15

72brand

8/11/2016 4:33:24 PM
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Jan 2008
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I'm on the street

I much prefer biking on the street. I hate bicycle paths because of pedestrians and dogs. The bicycle path is 4 feet wide but pedestrians take all the room. And I've had a few experiences with dogs trying to bite me. That's why I prefer going on the street. So I guess I've got big gonads.

Cee Jay 55

8/11/2016 4:53:56 PM
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Apr 2009
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Once

I received a ticket years ago for riding on the sidewalk. Back them it was a $35 fine. I wasn't even riding on the sidewalk, I was crossing it as I exited the Towne Center Parking lot onto 9th - across from where the BI used to be. There was a car coming so I swerved onto the sidewalk for about 6-10 feet and as luck would have it a BCP Officer was right there. I had come off the sidewalk and was actually on the street when he stopped me.  
 
Stick to the streets cyclists, lol, it could be expensive if the BCP decide to enforce that law (on someone other than me.)

plus zero

8/11/2016 9:26:22 PM
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you got it

  
72brand said "I much prefer biking on the street. I hate bicycle paths because of pedestrians and dogs. The bicycle path is 4 feet wide but pedestrians take all the room. And I've had a few experiences with dogs trying to bite me. That's why I prefer going on the street. So I guess I've got big gonads. "

that is exactly why I hate bike path. People don't pay much attention on paths maybe they feel on dream land path and some cyclists on bike path are careless too. Almost got hit couple times they bike crooked and not looking much. So I stick to streets.  
If you follow rules and focus and really pay attention to your surroundings then it is not that bad but don't take the whole street on your bike.  
There is 1 or 2 cops riding on their bike on the street so I guess they have gonads too!

plus zero

8/11/2016 9:37:57 PM
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why not

  
ultraguy said "I agree that I prefer to ride on the road. But you should not be passing vehicles on the right when at a stop sign or red light. Wait in line with the cars as if you were driving a car. "

if there is room I pass but make my stop ahead. What difference does that make vehicles pass and drive just by me in the same amount of distance than me standing beside them on a stop sign or red light so if they don't mind drive by me so close then I can stand beside them plus I don't make the driver behind me wait.  
Even if I get at the stop sign or red light first some drivers just drive beside even closer. When time to go I watch their wheels direction make sure they are going straight not turning in the last minute and I watch some cyclists on the sidewalk as some just ride anywhere from anywhere without looking.  
I am not in my zone and dreaming when I bike I do look and focus my surroundings.

ultraguy

8/11/2016 9:53:16 PM
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axana596

8/12/2016 9:01:41 AM
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haha

This whole thread is absurd. Nothing matters except the fact that bikes are considered "unmotorized vehicles" and must be operated just like cars... on the road. Anyone who gives a cyclist heck for doing what they are supposed to be doing is in the wrong. Plain and simple.

georgebush10

8/12/2016 9:55:26 AM
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Oct 2013
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I agree

That cyclists have every right to be on the road but when I see a cyclist pulling up beside a car (within the same lane) at a red light I just shake my head. What is the point of that if the vehicle is just going to pass you again when the light turns green. All it does is needlessly put the cyclist at risk and annoys the driver. You hear about too many people getting hit like that. But hey it's your life not mine. Go ahead and get hit by any of the careless drivers in Brandon.

Luckydog

8/12/2016 10:31:21 AM
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Nov 2008
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&;quot&;#59;Illegal&;quot&;#59;

Kind of like jay walking or rolling through a stop sign.....  
 
I find sitting back on my bike at a stop light is more dangerous, say for example I am 2 or 3 cars back and there are 4 or 5 cars behind me, and I proceed with traffic as the light turns green, guess what some of those cars behind me are going to want to turn right, and will no doubt be hitting the intersection at the same time as me, and more often than not try to speed up and cut in front of me to make the turn I try to proceed straight.  
 
MPI also states that cyclists need to make them selves be seen in traffic, for me the best way is to advance to the stop line at an intersection, that way everyone knows I am there, I stay behind the line so that those who want to turn right on red can do so, and then when the light changes I proceed.  
 
I''ll continue to do so, as I feel it is the safest way to proceed, I do it every day, and have done so in front of police, and have never had a ticket.  
 
Alternatively I could ride in the middle of the lane at lights so I can be seen and establish my position in the roadway, and force traffic around me, I am sure this would get a lot more reaction than advancing on the right at a stop light.  
 
Edited by Luckydog, 2016-08-12 10:34:03

CDN

8/13/2016 8:29:23 PM
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Jul 2013
Total posts:168
Who Ever Want To

I will also ride the road and bike paths but I do find the bike paths to be more dangerous than the road. Until the law changes than bans me I will continue to use the road. I can’t imagine the seconds that I might slow you down will take that much from your day. I will take up more of your time if you injure or kill me, heck you might even feel bad.  
 
I follow the rules, single but when going thru the circle I take the lane. (Wish they would repave them).  
 
Why in other provinces and other cities are they doing more for bikes not less?  
You will also see me on 34th and you are always welcome to stop me and chat.


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