Search For
 

 
Discussion Groups: Showbiz/Entertainment


Topic: Free TV Android Box
0 Like(s)   


ZachT

3/19/2017 5:08:32 PM
Member since:
Jun 2013
Total posts:354
Free TV Android Box

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/free-tv-android-box-court-roger-bell-videotron-1.4029874?cmp=rss  
 
It shouldn't be any surprise that these boxes are becoming more popular, and that the providers are fighting back.  
 
I would gladly pay a reasonable price for streaming all programming (new and old TV shows, movies, sports, news, etc.), or for the same content from the cable providers. However, the content from the cable providers is expensive.  
 
Part of the blame is with the cost of the production of the content itself. Do the athletes really need to be paid that much? Does it really cost tens of millions of dollars to make a movie, if you take salaries out of the equation? Do actors need to be paid that much? Take the Big Bang Theory for example. The three main actors are each paid $1,000,000 per episode! There are 24 episodes per season, so that is $72 million paid for these three actors themselves for one season. Who pays their salaries? In part, it comes from advertising for products that you and I purchase, and also from you and I with our cable subs:criptions. I'm sure that most of us could live quite well on a million dollar a year salary! Most of us already do that with considerably less. Why can't these overpaid actors and athletes do the same?  
 
The cable companies don't help their case either though. We pay a lot of money for their product. We have to put up with sun spots, or no service during storms. If our hardware fails, we can't copy recorded content on to replacement hardware. The hardware isn't exactly top notch either.  
 
Copyright restrictions are also to blame. Do I need to say anymore than Netflix Canada and Netflix USA?  
 
IMO, a lot of these Android boxes would probably disappear if there was a good, reasonably priced service available.

Tagged as: TV,  Android,  Box
Shebear

3/19/2017 5:27:16 PM
Member since:
Aug 2013
Total posts:109
Cable

I dont know much about the android box, but I do think cable is way overpriced. And yup actors/sports are paid insane amounts of $ guess you 'perform' better with those paychecks lol Growing up it was just couple channesl over the air and now its amazing what they do with tv now, but I do like they finally have the light package for $24 a month ( they dont promote that) it gives you basic stuff and you can just add on a couple channels if you want. My son's family wont get cable they just view stuff over the net attatched to the tv. A neighbor just gets over the air, and others I know pay over $100 a month. And to think people survived with just radio at one time lol

Doug

3/19/2017 7:15:49 PM
Member since:
Mar 2005
Total posts:6715
who

Android box is a game changer. Digital rights are a new term.  
 
Yet any canvas artists music or band deserves to be paid. I hear the rights now belong or could belong to them and their family for 50 years after death.  
 
That may be true but probably not world wide.  
 
Athletes do not need to be sky eye bucks but when the Network or team is raking in coin because of them;I ask who deserves the money?  
 
The content provider/mix athlete and team owner. Maybe the company that built the hardware/system up so they can get some. There is enough hands out for the end users money. Shebear did it right by going skinny cable. Vote with your paid dollars.

SBV

3/19/2017 10:57:55 PM
Member since:
Oct 2008
Total posts:30
cash cow

80$ cable, 60$ internet, 50$ home phone, 30$ cell, 25$ radio. 245$/mo for one person, insane. Must have sucker written on my forehead. 30 million Canadians boycotting services might make things right. Canadian Tire sells Kodi Boxes for 200$''s. Kodi''s a free app, good luck squashing it. The android boxes are a predictable reaction from fleecing the masses.  
 
Edited by S.V.S., 2017-03-19 22:59:46

ThatGuy1985

3/19/2017 11:38:23 PM
Member since:
May 2011
Total posts:201
...

If cable providers had systems in place for everyone to use, not just their paying cable customers, I'd be more inclined to pay for it.  
 
These service providers could so easily set up a system where consumers could pay for the shows they'd like instead of a package deal and have it stream-able. As long as they aren't greedy about it, people would be willing to pay it(looking at you HBO charging $20 a month). 2-4 dollars for an episode of your favorite show, commercial free, or something like 15 dollars for a season. And not one of these half seasons that seems to be the new trend.  
 
Netflix is a great model of how this could work, and there's no reason why these providers don't have something similar.

Shebear

3/23/2017 6:35:46 PM
Member since:
Aug 2013
Total posts:109
cable,cells etc etc

All this techy stuff is cool but like the one person paying over $200 mnth for services....doesnt take much to add up to that. .I just will go to landphone keep a flip phone with Speakout (7-eleven) credit of $25-35 amount on it that doesnt expire for 365 days for emerg if Im not in town or going across town and need a cab etc., and just basic skinny cable for $25 and internet, and get dvd sets (amazon, second hand) for when I dont have internet ...and books and magazines and draw, listen to the radio lol Or just go outside Espc with winter finally going away slowly. No maybe not as exciting as having these cool android boxes etc or latest phones etc but like someone who posted on ebrandon had dialup said nothing wrong with slowing down lol Another cheap way of having tv if you have a flat screen tv is over the air channels also the free previews when you run a scan for channels...no not much to pick from but better than no tv. If you have a old tv you can still get ctv clear with indoor antenna or copper wire/stripped coaxal cable as a antenna. Yes you might go through withdrawl but you get used to it.

Adam

3/23/2017 8:17:22 PM
Member since:
Aug 2008
Total posts:14866
Boxes

Dating myself a little but this whole phenomenon reminds me in a lot of ways of the early Napster gravy train. No shortage of creative rationalizations for pushing these boxes to their limits and going outside of what the law says is right, but fact is that copyright laws are what they are and the content owners that foot the bill for production have a right to determine how their content is distributed.  
 
The law eventually caught up to Napster and it looks like it is with these Android boxes. That said Napster was the beginning of a total overhaul of how people get their music and paved the way for reasonably priced chalk-full-of-content services like Spotify/Apple Music/etc. The Netflix model is there and then you also have heavyweights like Google and Apple trying to find ways to get further into TV. Between them, existing providers and content owners it will be interesting to see how all of the pieces fit together over the next 5-10 years (or less?) but change is a-comin.

Shebear

3/23/2017 9:37:15 PM
Member since:
Aug 2013
Total posts:109
Adam

Yup changes are coming with techy stuff advancing etc but Im gonna enjoy some futuristic 'old school' stuff while I can lol Do like the 'Jetsons' modern Skype that back in the day we only saw on cartoons etc like Jetsons and would think wow thats so far in the future lol

LoadedGun

3/23/2017 11:41:15 PM
Member since:
Oct 2011
Total posts:152
rationalization

It comes down to what your willing to pay for. Baseline. There is some risk involved, or skill required when your wanting to look into streaming. Or you'd have to decide to go without certain levels of accesibility if you don't want to access certain titles for free.  
 
I'm pretty sure all media goes into public domain after ten years. But, are you willing to wait ten years to watch your favourite episode of big brother? haha!  
 
Personally, I don't watch enough TV to justify a cable subscription. Even when I used to, there's never anything on all of those channels I wanted to watch.  
 
The Kodi TV boxes and downloadable app's work pretty well too! They've got hacks for them, where you can access any and all TV and movies. But, that takes a level of expertise I have yet to comprehend fully.

Delz38

3/24/2017 10:29:28 AM
Member since:
Oct 2009
Total posts:81
Kodi

How does the Kodi box work? when you buy 1 box, will it work on all TVs in the house? or do you need 1 box per tv?

SBV

3/24/2017 10:42:30 AM
Member since:
Oct 2008
Total posts:30
1/tv

1 box/tv, 35$'s ea off amazon. If smart TV, dwnld app directly to TV, or phone or pc, don't really need a box. Kiosks at summer fairs sell them etc. It's the hack that gets installed that's bad, stealing is always wrong.

Adam

3/24/2017 12:06:10 PM
Member since:
Aug 2008
Total posts:14866
Skill

  
LoadedGun said "It comes down to what your willing to pay for. Baseline. There is some risk involved, or skill required when your wanting to look into streaming. Or you'd have to decide to go without certain levels of accesibility if you don't want to access certain titles for free.  
 
I'm pretty sure all media goes into public domain after ten years. But, are you willing to wait ten years to watch your favourite episode of big brother? haha!  
 
Personally, I don't watch enough TV to justify a cable subscription. Even when I used to, there's never anything on all of those channels I wanted to watch.  
 
The Kodi TV boxes and downloadable app's work pretty well too! They've got hacks for them, where you can access any and all TV and movies. But, that takes a level of expertise I have yet to comprehend fully. "

From your post: "I'm pretty sure all media goes into public domain after ten years. "  
 
This is what I mean when I say creative rationalizations. In Canada the litmus test is 50 years after its creator's death, or the last of its creators' deaths if there was more than one:  
http://copyright.ubc.ca/guidelines-and-resources/support-guides/public-domain/  
 
In the US its more than that:  
http://copyright.cornell.edu/resources/publicdomain.cfm  
 
Re "risk", "skill", "level of expertise", etc. Could you not use all of these same words to describe the person that stuffs a chocolate bar or blu-ray in their jacket pocket when nobody's looking at a department store?

fdsafdsa

3/24/2017 12:24:16 PM
Member since:
Sep 2010
Total posts:97
Re skill

  
Adam said "
  
LoadedGun said "It comes down to what your willing to pay for. Baseline. There is some risk involved, or skill required when your wanting to look into streaming. Or you'd have to decide to go without certain levels of accesibility if you don't want to access certain titles for free.  
 
I'm pretty sure all media goes into public domain after ten years. But, are you willing to wait ten years to watch your favourite episode of big brother? haha!  
 
Personally, I don't watch enough TV to justify a cable subscription. Even when I used to, there's never anything on all of those channels I wanted to watch.  
 
The Kodi TV boxes and downloadable app's work pretty well too! They've got hacks for them, where you can access any and all TV and movies. But, that takes a level of expertise I have yet to comprehend fully. "

From your post: "I'm pretty sure all media goes into public domain after ten years. "  
 
This is what I mean when I say creative rationalizations. In Canada the litmus test is 50 years after its creator's death, or the last of its creators' deaths if there was more than one:  
http://copyright.ubc.ca/guidelines-and-resources/support-guides/public-domain/  
 
In the US its more than that:  
http://copyright.cornell.edu/resources/publicdomain.cfm  
 
Re "risk", "skill", "level of expertise", etc. Could you not use all of these same words to describe the person that stuffs a chocolate bar or blu-ray in their jacket pocket when nobody's looking at a department store? "

A more accurate analogy would be: Would it feel right to take a free chocolate bar from someone who acquired them in an unsavoury way... Which is a lot different than walking into a store and pocketing it yourself.  
 
Or even better purchasing a know stolen good from a local website because the deal is too good to be true....  
 
Just food for thought.

RobertMarks

3/26/2017 10:53:23 AM
Member since:
Jan 2012
Total posts:280
Technically Legal

While I agree it is wrong to stream copyrighted material, under current Canadian law it is not illegal to do so. http://legalite.ca/legal-news/online-free-tv-is-technically-legal-in-canada/

ZachT

3/26/2017 2:46:10 PM
Member since:
Jun 2013
Total posts:354
This is part of the problem

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/youtube-streaming-netflix-canada-u-s-hbo-1.4039694  
 
If we can't legally get it here, people will get it illegally, or in the grey area as RobertMarks stated with his link.

 
 
  Advertisement

Page 1 of 1


  Get E-mail/text alerts for this discussion    
Bookmark and Share

   
   

   

Current Discussions

 
 
 

Classified Ads

 
 

Blogs

 
 

Local Business Directory

 
 
Home Design & Drafting
Architectural & structural design drafting and construction plan sets. 3D rendering capabilities. See what your new home or cottage will look like before it is built! Custom consultative approach for new construction or renovation projects. Homes, cottages, big or small. Competitive rates! Call or email Dan to discuss your project. Any inquiries welcome.......private homeowners, homebuilders, developers, real estate, building materials suppliers. Tel: (204)717-0713 Cel: (204)573-5502 Email: daforsythe@wcgwave.ca or dan@ftdc.ca Located in Brandon, Manitoba. Like us on Facebook! Find us on the web @ www.ftdc.ca More..
Recycle your old computer
Clean out some space! Business or personal can drop off their E-waste for FREE at our store! EPRA approved. More..
Brandon Real Estate
For All your Brandon Real Estate needs More..