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We had our census form delivered to our home last evening. I don't know if I'm the only one out there who has a problem with this! Firstly, I don't think that the census should be a top Government priority or use of funds at this time during Covid financial difficulties. Secondly, during a time when we are to have no visitors come to our homes, why is it OK for the government to send people to our doors with the forms. Just wondering if there are others out there who feel the same way?

and did it..Did not bother me in the least. There was no contact with anyone.  
 
Edited by Bass-ic, 2021-05-06 13:03:33

Dropping something off in the mailbox doesn't seem like a problem to me.  
Canada post drops by nearly everyday.  
The flyers are delivered every week.  
Amazon deliveries showing up.  
I can get pizza delivered.  
Flowers delivered. Etc.  
 
 
I really don't see how this is remotely a problem. Others parts of the government have to continue to function, Covid or not. If they need the census done, so be it. It look less than 10 minutes to do.

We received 3 in the mail. Husband phoned to question why - waited on hold for 10 minutes and I said hang up. They will phone when you don't return one.  
 
What I found maddening the last time was why there were so many financial questions. That is why we file a tax return. As far as I am concerned all they need to know is how many people live in this residence and that is all we filled out.

We do not have mail boxes in the country.....and there was contact! I guess my main point was that it does cost the Government money to do the census, and I'm just questioning whether it absolutely needed to be done at this time or if it could have been pushed back to a better time?

They left mine hanging on my door knob ( I am also country with no mailbox) last night. My only complaint was about how late in the game it was delivered.  
 
I looked at taking a census job this year but knew there would be too many people grumbling about workers coming to the door. I don't need that crap so chose a different job. Thank you for proving me right.

How is your mail delivered to a rural address if you have no mail box(superbox) or post office box?

The census in my community has to be hand-delivered because it is delivered to an address not the occupant. All COVID-19 procedures were followed, physically distanced, masked and little time. It is important for the census to be completed so proper monies are transferred to provincial governments from the federal government - federal transfer payments are determined on information gathered from the census.

Mine was just hung on my front door.  
 
The government has do to a census every 10th year, ending in 1. It's some kind of law/mandate from back when Canada was formed. They have decided to do every 5th year but the 10 year one is required.  
 
Rona isnt going away anytime soon, so people would still complain if they managed to postpone until next year. Under current public health orders, all deliveries are allowed to personal residences still.  
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Census_in_Canada  
 
Edited by myITsource, 2021-05-06 14:19:41

Farm census to be completed right in the middle of seeding and calving within four days. I’ve grudgingly completed it with a bunch of financial information which frankly is none of their business.  
They say that is is used to determine future agricultural programs. The only program I use is crop insurance so it’s pointless.  
Statistics Canada is outdated, inefficient and has no place in a dynamic modern society.  
 
Edited by Farmergeorge, 2021-05-06 14:24:31

Do all farms have to do a long form one with financial data, or is it random like urban addresses?  
 
I disagree that it doesn't have it's place. It's vital that we have this information. Annoying? Very. But I recognize it's importance.

Mail gets delivered to mail boxes, either group boxes or on your lane-census forms get delivered to the house.

As far as I understand the agricultural census is a blanket form that all farm businesses have to complete. It’s now completely irrelevant in the modern agricultural industry and statistics Canada numbers and projections are widely known in the industry to be incorrect and unreliable.  
The agricultural census letter was mailed to our post office box.  
Just now a lady delivered the regular census to our farm house and no doubt there will be one at my house in town tonight meaning that I have to complete two more forms.  
 
Edited by Farmergeorge, 2021-05-06 18:04:51

I didn't know there was a farm form. Interesting. Why is the data, in your opinion, unreliable?  
 
If you get forms at 2 different residences, do they both get filled out? I wonder what the expectation is there.

Most leading industry analysts report regularly that statistics Canada data is usually wildly inaccurate and unreliable in relation to the agriculture industry and commodities at least. Analysts often compare their own data against that available from stats Canada and find huge differences. We are also expected to complete a couple of other stats Canada surveys every year but they refuse to provide these in paper format. We are legally within our right to request surveys in paper format but stats Canada refuses.  
Yes we are expected to complete the regular population census on both homes as well giving a total of three census forms to be completed.  
The problem with statistics is that they are often easily manipulated to provide a predetermined outcome which makes statistical analysis inherently unreliable and outdated.

It’s a shame that Steven Harper didn’t kill off the census or statistics Canada, two pointless and costly entities. As for the wheat board, I don’t know any producers that miss the wheat board. It held up grain delivery opportunities and caused bottle necks in the system . We have all learned to become wiser and more skilled marketers without it and it’s a good job that it’s gone!

The census is one of the most important functions of our democracy. It helps determine the allocation of resources to the areas we reside. There is likely no better time than right now for that duty to be performed.

Because year on year if you check agriculture industry data , statistics Canada data and ‘real world boots on the ground what actually happened data’ you will clearly determine that industry data is always much more accurate than that accrued by statistics Canada.  
Far too many assumptions are made using little experience or knowledge and results are easily manipulated.

you legally have to fill it out? Or can you skip it.

Does everyone get one? We didn’t receive one yet. We live in the country.

Thank-you delpmb for your help. Right to the point.

My census form was delivered to my mailbox.  
I too live at a rural address.

...Can be made to support anything you want.  
Therefore any position being supported by statistics has to be taken with a "huge" grain of salt!