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This family's homeland is being torn apart. People are desperate to get their families to safety and find opportunities for a better life. I'm not about to cast judgement one way or another. My heart breaks for Syria.

If he wants someone to blame he should look in the mirror. He was the one who placed his wife and children into an overcrowded dingy and put adult life jackets on toddlers and went into the sea! There was never an application made to the Canadian government on his behalf or by him for his family.  
 
He was living and working in turkey for two years. He and his family were safe in Turkey with money from his sister to live on. He chose to give the money 4k to smugglers and put his family in a rubber dinghy to small for the body of water it was on and for the number of people in it. After the deaths, he went back to Syria to bury them. Still don't understand how he was able to do that.  
 
I agree we need immigration, but not economic refugees or those with intolerant ideals in regards to women and gays. The most vulnerable group over there are the Syrian Christians.  

And repeatedly most of the images are of young males flooding across the borders leaving there families to the terrorists. Or is is it just the terrorists coming to the west. Freedom isn't free if the number of good people in these countries is greater than the number of evil bastards the good people need to rise up and turf the bastards not run like cowards. Why are Muslim countries not taking these people in is it not the religion of peace? The ndp wants to bring everyone hear and do nothing to stop the carnage over there how did that work out before ww1 or ww2 did that work in rawanda

voiceofthepeople said "If he wants someone to blame he should look in the mirror. He was the one who placed his wife and children into an overcrowded dingy and put adult life jackets on toddlers and went into the sea! There was never an application made to the Canadian government on his behalf or by him for his family.     He was living and working in turkey for two years. He and his family were safe in Turkey with money from his sister to live on. He chose to give the money 4k to smugglers and put his family in a rubber dinghy to small for the body of water it was on and for the number of people in it. After the deaths, he went back to Syria to bury them. Still don't understand how he was able to do that.     I agree we need immigration, but not economic refugees or those with intolerant ideals in regards to women and gays. The most vulnerable group over there are the Syrian Christians.   "

lets not let facts get get in the way of our outrage...The media told us to be angry So damn it we are going to BE angry!!  
 
 
 
Edited by Crash, 2015-09-11 12:24:43

All's well no crisis, just let her be, pretty sure any of the horror we're hearing about is truely media hype.  
(sarcasm)

Don I suppose you are saying that let's just bring over the crooks and terrorists because we saw a horrible picture doesn't matter what the reality is. No one is saying bad things are not happening over there but is bringing the horrors over there here the answer or is fixing over there so that we don't risk destroying what we have here the answer. We wouldn't want to really find out what the truth behind the pictures is.

Despite false/misleading prior news reports, Canada did not refuse the refugee claim.  
 
http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/canadian-politics/chris-alexander-suspends-campaign-after-news-that-canada-rejected...

How many people are hungry and suffering in the world? Live in war torn countries?  
 
The answer, Tens of Millions.  
 
Should we just invite them all to Canada and bog our social-economic system down to collapse?  
 
Or should we just invite the ones that the media is currently sensationalizing?  
Who chooses?  
 
Who pays for these people? With language and cultural barriers, will they just turn to social assistance? And put further strain on affordable housing and the medical system? And then once their here they will be sponsoring all their aunts and uncles and 1st 2nd and 3rd cousins to come and live for free here too.  
Because we all know, you offer someone your finger and they'll grab your whole arm.  
 
We're all taxed enough already, this lifeboats full.  
 
Life is harsh, it can be cruel and ugly, but thats the reality of the world and sometimes you just have to accept that despite what you do, that will never change.

This is a story to be told by both sides. I for one will listen and learn.  
 
I tend to believe he was safe but his family was not. He did his best and made his family safe but living in difficult conditions in Turkey.  
 
His bad decision to go to a better country than Turkey but no safer was a choice.He was heading further! A economic immigrant is a big yes in my thinking.  
 
Refugees vs Immigrants. Refugees are in for a tougher road when they come to Canada. They want to go home.  
 
Our up front costs be it health care etch are high. Reports show they are far better off than the working poor be it coin and benefits. I know they are not allowed to work short term.  
 
My thoughts are simple. The faster they get to normal social assistance the better and lets try to get them back to where they want to be and that would be their homeland. !  
Hand up not a hand out. If they want to stay then stay. Great as our country was built on Immigrants. Not Refugees but we will rename them if they want to stay. It just gets tougher on them . We must all pay our way when push comes to shove.  
 
 
 
 
Edited by Doug, 2015-09-12 00:00:23

tafeel said "And repeatedly most of the images are of young males flooding across the borders leaving there families to the terrorists. Or is is it just the terrorists coming to the west. Freedom isn't free if the number of good people in these countries is greater than the number of evil bastards the good people need to rise up and turf the bastards not run like cowards. Why are Muslim countries not taking these people in is it not the religion of peace? The ndp wants to bring everyone hear and do nothing to stop the carnage over there how did that work out before ww1 or ww2 did that work in rawanda "

The other Muslim countries in the area, namely, Saudi Arabia etc. are Sunni and they will not take others in to their country. That would be like asking the Vatican to take in Protestants during the troubles in N Ireland.