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Looking at several ads pertaining to "No Pets" rules, it''''''''''''''''s a little frustrating trying to find a place anywhere because there is always someone who ruins a good thing for people who have good intentions, it was debatable posting this because I know it will be frowned upon by landlords, but not everyone is an irresponsible pet owner, the ones who ruin it for decent people who love animals & the reason I am posting is because I went to look at a place today in Brandon, the ad said pet friendly, they meant cats, drove 90 minutes to look at the place & when I mentioned my 20LB dog the guy says "can't you just get rid of it", so now I think it is only fair that people know that their animals cannot be turned away, not to mention the price gouging to just have your 4 legged friend...  
 
Link: https://web2.gov.mb.ca/bills/39-4/b218e.php  
 
Please move if in wrong place.  
 
Edited by Slimory, 2016-07-30 02:05:05

Never passed into law, just a proposal  
 
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/local/province-quietly-puts-fluffys-law-to-sleep-93561974.html

Their are many responsible pet owners, but if it was my apartment, I would not let animals in either.  
 
Dogs will still bark and annoy others, they loose hair along with cats, that will get in the carpet and stay there. So, the next person has allergies and the landlord will have to take the carpet out and replace. Many things dogs and cats will do even with a responsible pet owner, that the owner has no control over. Scratching walls, until they are taught enough times not to, puking on the carpet (and the stain never comes completely out). So many little things, but the most important are bothering other neighbors and the hair and dander left in carpet.  
 
Edited by Brenda, 2016-07-30 06:58:44

yes there are some pet owners but how can you tell as a landlord and if they are upset to move out they don't clean up the place. Very frustrating and time consuming to chase a tenant with all the forms to fill out to get your money back for damages.  
Also landlords will loose some chances to very good new tenants looking for pet free place unless the house or apartment goes through a professional cleaning and that expense goes to whom?

Problem with pet owners is that they have a few issues  
 
1) pet ownership isn't a right. Pets are luxuries and you don't need to have a pet to live  
2) If you don't own the property you don't have a say about having an animal there  
3) As much as you love them, animals aren't people and having animals around can disrupt the rights of other people. Little fluffy doesn't bark much, but her barking annoys the neighbors and then a landlord gets complaints which can end up in a noise violation bylaw ticket.  
 
I am always bothered by the people that think they are so hard done by because they can't have their pet in their new place. Want a pet that bad? Buy a house. Can't afford a house? Then paying for fluffy's well being isn't helping that. Just remember you should feel privileged and lucky if you find a place that lets you have a pet and do everything you can to stay there

And as usual, here come all the stuck up landlords who treat pets as nothing but disposable, and think that in order to own a pet, you NEED to have hundreds of thousands of dollars laying around to "just" buy a house. Then I'll get all sorts of replies about "muh investment". What about what people have invested into what's essentially a member of their family? Just screw them, right?  
 
To anyone who has a pet and is thinking about moving here - leave and never look back. Brandon's the most pet-unfriendly place I've ever been in my life.

Bearrorism..we have a couple small 4 plexes and happen to love pets and know they aren't disposable, they are members of the family. We have allowed people in with cats and dogs, and we have had no luck with responsible ownership. Over $1500 in damage to one suite after carpets needed replacing because of clawing and urine, doors needing replacing because of constant scratching, and trying to get the smell out that was absorbed into everything because they didn't change the litter boxes. Dogs - the piles of poop that were never cleaned up, ruined lawns because of the urine spots, and he dug holes all over the place that the owner never filled in. No fault of the dog, he was probably bored. My question is to you Bearrorism - these people promised to be responsible pet owners so we gave them chances, unfortunately we have also decided no more pets. The damage deposits didn't even begin to cover damage costs. These are only a couple examples we have... I could list more.

People are protecting their investment. Pets aren't a necessity. If they have had issues in the past with pets causing damage, why would they want to rent out to people who have pets, when there are people without who will rent? If you had pets destroy your property, would you keep risking losing money?

rentals are hard enough to find in brandon as is. if you see yourself renting in the future then a pet isn't for you. it's not a hard concept...

Bearrorism said "And as usual, here come all the stuck up landlords who treat pets as nothing but disposable, and think that in order to own a pet, you NEED to have hundreds of thousands of dollars laying around to "just" buy a house. Then I'll get all sorts of replies about "muh investment". What about what people have invested into what's essentially a member of their family? Just screw them, right?     To anyone who has a pet and is thinking about moving here - leave and never look back. Brandon's the most pet-unfriendly place I've ever been in my life. "

please read garrets post, its very true

Funnygirl26 said "Bearrorism..we have a couple small 4 plexes and happen to love pets and know they aren't disposable, they are members of the family. We have allowed people in with cats and dogs, and we have had no luck with responsible ownership. Over $1500 in damage to one suite after carpets needed replacing because of clawing and urine, doors needing replacing because of constant scratching, and trying to get the smell out that was absorbed into everything because they didn't change the litter boxes. Dogs - the piles of poop that were never cleaned up, ruined lawns because of the urine spots, and he dug holes all over the place that the owner never filled in. No fault of the dog, he was probably bored. My question is to you Bearrorism - these people promised to be responsible pet owners so we gave them chances, unfortunately we have also decided no more pets. The damage deposits didn't even begin to cover damage costs. These are only a couple examples we have... I could list more. "

There are cleaners that remove the smell of urine from everything. Most people dont know that and assume everything is damaged. Im lucky to have a place that i can have pets and i make sure they dont damage anything. We dont have carpet but have a rug that got peed on before our cat got fixed and the cleaner got rid of the smell completly. We have not had any more problems. They are fixed and dont urinate on anything. If however they started i would be taking them to the vet because that is abnormal. Also would clean up the mess. A responsible pet owner does that and im sure you would be able to ask for a vet reference if allowing pets. Responsible pet owners take their pets for regular checkups and spay or neuter.  
IMO

Winnipeg is the same, it's sad.. out of every place I've went to look at in Brandon they aren't "Pet friendly" but they allow cats... I'm allergic to cats, but I don't bitch, That's what these damage deposits they rape your pocket book are for. I've noticed landlords will pretty much rape your pocket book for a damage & places who allow dogs will charge an entire months rent on top of the already existing half months rent damage deposit AND an entire months rent to get the keys. It's frustrating.

I haven't been to one place that didn't have a cat, cats smell, they don't go outside, I don't like cats, but I wouldn't be a hypocrite & tell someone they can't have a cat when I have a dog, I'm allergic to cats but I don't complain about it, these damage deposits people pay aren't for landlords to just keep & do what they wish, it's there to fix damages, yes there are irresponsible pet owners who just don't care, why condemn them all? I have a 15LB pound dog, smaller then a cat & he doesn't shed & he doesn't smell cause he goes outside & it's not hard to pick up after him, doesn't sound fair, does it?

Garret said "Problem with pet owners is that they have a few issues     1) pet ownership isn't a right. Pets are luxuries and you don't need to have a pet to live   2) If you don't own the property you don't have a say about having an animal there   3) As much as you love them, animals aren't people and having animals around can disrupt the rights of other people. Little fluffy doesn't bark much, but her barking annoys the neighbors and then a landlord gets complaints which can end up in a noise violation bylaw ticket.     I am always bothered by the people that think they are so hard done by because they can't have their pet in their new place. Want a pet that bad? Buy a house. Can't afford a house? Then paying for fluffy's well being isn't helping that. Just remember you should feel privileged and lucky if you find a place that lets you have a pet and do everything you can to stay there "

Pretty ignorant thing to say, in all my years owning animals I''''ve NEVER had a noise complaint.. tell me who has thousands of dollars to just pull out of their ass to buy a house? maybe there is a reason people are renting in the first place.. but, that''''s not your concern anyway.. What about people who pound bass through the floor all day long & when a complaint is made there is nothing anyone can do because it''s not after 11PM? what about other peoples rights in that aspect? I work nights, are you going to cater to my rights/ needs like you do people with no pets?  
 
Come on now...  
 
Edited by Slimory, 2016-07-30 21:53:40

Slimory said "    Garret said "Problem with pet owners is that they have a few issues     1) pet ownership isn't a right. Pets are luxuries and you don't need to have a pet to live   2) If you don't own the property you don't have a say about having an animal there   3) As much as you love them, animals aren't people and having animals around can disrupt the rights of other people. Little fluffy doesn't bark much, but her barking annoys the neighbors and then a landlord gets complaints which can end up in a noise violation bylaw ticket.     I am always bothered by the people that think they are so hard done by because they can't have their pet in their new place. Want a pet that bad? Buy a house. Can't afford a house? Then paying for fluffy's well being isn't helping that. Just remember you should feel privileged and lucky if you find a place that lets you have a pet and do everything you can to stay there " Pretty ignorant thing to say, in all my years owning animals I''''ve NEVER had a noise complaint.. tell me who has thousands of dollars to just pull out of their ass to buy a house? maybe there is a reason people are renting in the first place.. but, that''''s not your concern anyway.. What about people who pound bass through the floor all day long & when a complaint is made there is nothing anyone can do because it''s not after 11PM? what about other peoples rights in that aspect? I work nights, are you going to cater to my rights/ needs like you do people with no pets?     Come on now...     Edited by Slimory, 2016-07-30 21:53:40"

To answer your question "who has thousands of dollars to pull out of their ass to buy a house", the landlord does. Hence why they get decide what goes on in "THEIR" property. They worked hard, and paid for it.  
Not all people are animal people. So if someone doesn't wants animals on their property, they have that right to say no. Having a pet is not a right.  
I agree with garret. And I also feel that way too many people have entitlement issues.

kayla we tried having the carpets professionally cleaned...we did it twice and the smell still wouldn't come out. The carpets were also shredded and couldn't be repaired, hence the replacement was needed.

Slimory, the noise bylaw in Brandon does not have a time. Any noise that a person makes that disrupts their neighbor is in violation of the noise bylaw doesn't matter if it is at ten am or 5 pm if a neighbor is making noise that disturbs your peace call it in my friend

Dont work you need an actual cleaner for cat urine. As for the scratching of carpet, tells me that they didnt have something for said cats to claw. Cats need to scratch by nature. If provided with appropriote scratching furniture they are great at just using it. Again comes down to having responsible pet owners.

That sometimes you need to use the urine cleaner on the foam padding under the carpet as well to rid the smell.

most of us love animals. As soon as a moved to Brandon I wanted a cat, but new I would be renting, so I did not get one.  
 
As soon as I got a house, I found the perfect cat. So, unless you have your own home (it took me 12 years of renting), do not get an animal. You need to have a stable place to live, where you can have your own rules. Why get and love an animal, when you know how are the rental rules are here in Brandon? Go volunteer at the pound, see the animals. It is certainly not the same as owning your own, but why get an animal, love it to death, finally you are out of options and have to give it away, just so you can get a rental to live in? That is not right for the animal and does not make you a great owner.

Famous last words "I AM A RESPONSIBLE PET OWNER" right! I've heard them before several times and each time I've been stung! When they leave and the place is a mess, they mysteriously disappear from the planet! And BTW there is no cleaner that can remove cat urine! Tried it all!

Bearrorism said "And as usual, here come all the stuck up landlords who treat pets as nothing but disposable, and think that in order to own a pet, you NEED to have hundreds of thousands of dollars laying around to "just" buy a house. Then I'll get all sorts of replies about "muh investment". What about what people have invested into what's essentially a member of their family? Just screw them, right?     To anyone who has a pet and is thinking about moving here - leave and never look back. Brandon's the most pet-unfriendly place I've ever been in my life. "

you are wrong about stuck up landlords. Become one first you will see things differently

pilot said "Famous last words "I AM A RESPONSIBLE PET OWNER" right! I've heard them before several times and each time I've been stung! When they leave and the place is a mess, they mysteriously disappear from the planet! And BTW there is no cleaner that can remove cat urine! Tried it all! "

A cleaner. Its called natures miracle. You can buy it from the pet store.  
And to the i am a responsible pet owner is pricisly why i said to ask for a vet reference.

kaylagurl21 said "    pilot said "Famous last words "I AM A RESPONSIBLE PET OWNER" right! I've heard them before several times and each time I've been stung! When they leave and the place is a mess, they mysteriously disappear from the planet! And BTW there is no cleaner that can remove cat urine! Tried it all! " A cleaner. Its called natures miracle. You can buy it from the pet store.   And to the i am a responsible pet owner is pricisly why i said to ask for a vet reference. "

Just because you go to the vet for shots, etc., does not make you a responsible pet owner in a home situation. All the vet can say is yea, records or up to date. I don't suppose the vet comes to your house and says, all clean, no scratches, no carpet stains, etc. To get a reference from a vet is a waste of a vets time.

Firstly, ive never had to use it on cement. So that i am not sure of. But clothing, carpet, and laminant it does just fine. It also has directions that must be followed in order for it to work.  
 
No i am not noseblind to it because even my guests cannot smell anything.  
 
 
Cats do not urinate outside of the litterbox if properly cared for. Some cats need litter cleaned every day.  
Some cats may spray before getting fixed. If you spay or neuter at appropriate age this can be avoided.  
Also if they start urinating in innapropriate places it could be any number of medical issues.  
So yes a vet reference would work. Vets dont mind giving a reference to pet rescues why not landlords?

kaylagurl21 said "Firstly, ive never had to use it on cement. So that i am not sure of. But clothing, carpet, and laminant it does just fine. It also has directions that must be followed in order for it to work.     No i am not noseblind to it because even my guests cannot smell anything.       Cats do not urinate outside of the litterbox if properly cared for. Some cats need litter cleaned every day.   Some cats may spray before getting fixed. If you spay or neuter at appropriate age this can be avoided.   Also if they start urinating in innapropriate places it could be any number of medical issues.   So yes a vet reference would work. Vets dont mind giving a reference to pet rescues why not landlords? "

cats will urinate outside the litter box. You said they don''''t. Then you say they can urinate in innapropriate places? I had a well looked after cat, who missed the litter box by about 6" one day, so yes they will urinate outside the litter box.  
 
I still don''''t get how a vet saying you bring your animal in for shots, etc., is any help to a landlord. I do take my cats for check up and shots, but who is to say I have the perfect cat and so I am perfect and my cat is perfect in the home. A vet can''''t say that.  
 
There will always be that cat litter box smell no matter how often you empty it. The next person that wants to rent may be allergic to cats and you will never ever get all the hair and dander out, even a clean freak like me. So that means the landlord may have to install new carpet. I just got new carpet, by the time it was bought, installed, new baseboards it was very pricey. Way more than any pet deposit will cover.  
 
No, I am not a landlord, but appreciate that they are buying these rentals to make money and not be repairing and fixing due to something that can be prevented, such as damage from an animal. This may be their only source of income, or they took a huge gamble on buying a rental to get some extra cash for those extra's we would all like to have.  
 
Edited by Brenda, 2016-07-31 19:09:20

Uh no. It's my right as a landlord , the OWNER of the home, to tell you no I don't want animals in or on my property.  
That and my husband has severe allergies to animals, not a sniffy nose, full blown throat closes.  
Stop it. If you can't provide a forever home for a pet don't own one.  
ya things happen but that's the consequence  
Move  
On.

They do not. If a cat is urinating on the floor they either have a medical problem or they have a dirty litterbox. Any vet will say the same.  
Usually if a cat who normally goes to the box goes outside of the box is because they associate pain with the box.  
My aunts cat had diabetes which caused them to go outside of the box.  
And a friends cat had urine crystals which made him go outside the box.  
 
Other then that the only other reason is that said cat is not actually litter trained. They learn those things from mom. If taken away too early it can cause problems.

Uh no. It's my right as a landlord , the OWNER of the home, to tell you no I don't want animals in or on my property.  
That and my husband has severe allergies to animals, not a sniffy nose, full blown throat closes.  
Stop it. If you can't provide a forever home for a pet don't own one.  
ya things happen but that's the consequence  
Move  
On.

kaylagurl21 said "They do not. If a cat is urinating on the floor they either have a medical problem or they have a dirty litterbox. Any vet will say the same.   Usually if a cat who normally goes to the box goes outside of the box is because they associate pain with the box.   My aunts cat had diabetes which caused them to go outside of the box.   And a friends cat had urine crystals which made him go outside the box.     Other then that the only other reason is that said cat is not actually litter trained. They learn those things from mom. If taken away too early it can cause problems. "

My cat was healthy, not in pain, clean box every day and it went outside the box. She was on her way there and just missed...so yes it happens and it STINKS! No pain, no diseases, well trained to use the box and always did, but there is always that one time. So, yes they miss.  
 
Go to the bank, get a huge loan, buy a rental and let everyone have animals. Dogs barking, cats meowing and scratching, dander, hair. Have them all move out at once. Now, go clean all of those apartments of those perfect pet owners and tell me you came ahead that month.