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Have read and seen different rules. A store like Walmart not sure on the size but its all under one roof is to have 250 people in the store at one time or can they have more during our new covid regulations? The malls are under one roof what are the numbers they can have inside?  
 
Edited by daysnnights, 2021-02-05 16:50:56

To the best of my knowledge, capacity is as follows:  
 
- 25% of capacity, or less than 250 people, whichever is lower (this applies to big box stores etc, but not malls)  
 
- 25% capacity or 5 people, whichever is higher in the case of small stores (not including staff) (this would apply to small stand-alone stores and/or individual stores in the mall)  
 
- malls in general have a 25% capacity limit, with no cap on the number of people (different than big box stores)  
 
Hopefully that helps.

Like I said the box stores are under one roof and some can have huge square feet of space but only 250 people and a mall can have the same amount of space under one roof and can have as many people as they want. That doesn't seem fair. How can malls have a 25% capacity limit with no cap on the number of people? I don't follow that comment? So your saying that you could have 2000 people in the mall but only 5 people in the stores that is in the mall. Thought the the number of people depended on the size of the store so some stores could have more then 5 and some stores could have less then 5

Which big box store has the same square footage as the mall?

So the malls don’t have to follow the 25% capacity rule? The malls only have hallways that customers walk in. The stores control the number of people in their stores. The people in the hallways have to be six feet apart. It’s the capacity in the hallways

No matter what the size it should be 250 people

Just wondering why staff in stores don’t count? You can only have 6 customers in store XYZ but there are three staff members working....so now each person has to stay six feet away from 8 other people. With clothing racks/displays/the cash desk, there really isn’t a whole lot of room. It’s worse in a big store like Walmart. I’ve had their staff run into me more than other customers

The mall has to follow the 25% capacity rule. Not the 250 rule, which only seems to apply to big box stores. Individual stores have to follow their own capacity rules applicable to them.

The staff rule might only apply to the little stores and not big box (I'm not sure on that). But don't forget that staff many not only be on the floor - in you example there could be 1 at cash, 1 in the back and only 1 at on the floor. So then it's not too bad.

In my experience a staff member might be in the back for maybe half an hour, doing paperwork or having a break. I don’t know of any small retail store where a person spends their whole shift in the back. And that’s really not my point. I was asking why staff members don’t count. They should count as a person in the store.

That's fair enough. I know when I've worked small retail, there might be 3 of us working but rarely would all 3 be on the floor at the same time - usually 1 was at cash, 1 was helping customers and 1 was doing paperwork/stock/whatever. But each store operates differently, so obviously not all will be like that.  
 
As for the staff "counting", I understand what you're saying. I don't know if the staff counts or not for big box, although reading the orders (I went and doubled-checked as I was starting to doubt myself), it clearly says that they must "ensure members of the public [...] are able to maintain a separation of at least 2 metres from other members of the public."  
 
So that's the answer. Staff are technically not "members of the public", but customers are. Ergo, staff numbers don't count towards the capacity limits, which limits the amount of members of the public to 25% of the usual capacity (which is a calculation based on fire code limits I think, and a square footage thing too).  
 
The current health order is available at https://www.gov.mb.ca/asset_library/en/proactive/2020_2021/orders-soe-01282021.pdf  
 
Just also wanted to point out that the 5-person thing I have mentioned in previous posts are not specified in this order, but I know they've talked about it at press conferences. I think that might hark back to the square footage calculation, which is contained somewhere else but I don't have to time to go digging for it. It was an accommodation for and recognition of smaller businesses having an easier time policing the 2m thing, so even if your 25% thing made you under-5, you were allowed 5.

Only 25% of your capacity or maximum 250 people which ever is less.  
 
I would check carefully before allowing 5 as that is nowhere in orders.  
 
Malls are limited to the same thing and are responsible to count as well. Not sure how they will manage that without closing some entrances. But still responsible and have to show that if asked by officer.  
 
As to Walmart can’t tell anything by parking lot as many people follow directions and only shop with one person in the car. Plus all employees park there as well.  
 
In the outside lineup except for some idiots 6 feet rule is being followed. And people already have masks on. When I was there a group of people weren’t following that rule 6 ft when security guard told them that they started throwing stuff at him like their water bottle. Not sure what happened after that as I went into store.  
 
They count at the door people going in and people going out.  
 
As to inside the store majority are getting the idea of the arrows.  
 
Once I went down the grocery aisle and there were 2 women blocking the aisle not moving and going the wrong way. I told them nicely they were and they went back. Of course I could have got angry persons but they just said oh sorry.  
 
Have to say the meme I saw on this had me laughing.  
 
Betty White and a young woman were behind bars both were in orange jumpsuits. Younger woman asked Betty what she was in for and Betty said I walked down the aisle the wrong way. Funny.

Pandemic rules for stores, malls a grey zone for shoppers CBC News · Posted: Feb 02, 2021 11:30 AM . Section 5(1) of the current public health orders sets capacity for retail stores at 25 per cent capacity, or 250 people, whichever is lower. A separate section of the health order, 5(2), sets capacity for malls or shopping centres at 25 per cent of regular capacity, without specifying a maximum number of people. Sandra Hagenaars, general manager at Kildonan Place, says the current maximum capacity is 650 people. The mall has 119 stores and services, a 6-screen theatre, and food court.[1][2] With 460,498 square feet. They also mention Grant Park in the article.

"Betty White and a young woman were behind bars both were in orange jumpsuits. Younger woman asked Betty what she was in for and Betty said I walked down the aisle the wrong way. Funny.'  
That was funny, I needed a giggle lol

glad the stores and mall opend up...although having the back entrance closed sucks with this being winter, i understand their reason though. Maybe in time they will open the back entrance with some security like the other entrances. Hopefully things can stay open and businesses can get back on their feet and people find jobs.  
Maybe this extreme cold will kill of covid !  
 
Edited by covidsux, 2021-02-07 19:58:50

Some malls are allowed up to 25k people. There's not much consistency.  
 

As public-health orders are loosened to allow retail reopenings per "cautious" capacity limits, it appears the pandemic regulations remain muddy — or, at the very least, do not apply equally — for businesses across Manitoba.

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There is currently 21 people in Brandon with COVID for those that that aren't good with numbers that is roughly 0.00042% of the population. That is an actual fact. However I'm sure this post will magically disappear.

21 that been tested and found to have covid. There will be many more who do not have any symptoms or have mild symptoms who have not been tested, yet have the virus. The 21 who have tested positive for covid are not likely to be out in public spreading the virus.  
It is the asymptomatic people and or the symptomatic people who refuse to be inconvenienced that will be spreading the virus.