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Putin raised their alert level. He has sent to the safest place to survive an attack.  
 
I am sure many other countries have done the same for their leaders.  
 
Humans have gone way past the 1950s where we believed that hiding beneath your school desk would save you from a nuclear bomb.  
 
We all know what a nuclear war would result in. Up to 95% of the population will die. They may be the lucky ones then slowly dying in agony of poisoning.  
 
I believe some may survive but for how long anyone guess.  
 
All other life on earth will be dead. Water will be contaminated.  
 
Only possible place of safety will be underground.  
 
You may think I am overdramatizing the situation. I am actually under dramatizing.  
 
It may be hundreds of years before humans can exist on the surface. If you don’t believe me look at the noise reports on Chenov in Ukraine. Russia took a short cut through and disturbed the soil and radiation levels increased a bit. It makes me wonder of the exposure of the Russian soldiers and the later effects.  
 
No country or area is safe from a nuclear attack.  
 
Leaders know this. They may want to play who is King of the Mountain. Once one pushes the button to go down this road. They know there will no longer a mountain or anything else.  
 
I thought about worrying or being anxious. Decided it wasn’t worth it. There is nothing I can do but pray.  
 
Remember the quote “there are no an agnostics on the battlefield”  
 
Other than prayer. I will enjoy my family and friends as if it was the last day.

just shelled a nuclear plant in Ukraine and is now on fire.  
 
https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-a3092d8e476949ed7c55607a645a9154

To any of this, I'm afraid. Our first and foremost concern should always be the preservation and protection of life during this conflict. It breaks my heart to see and to hear of the horrors unfolding right before our eyes. Like all Canadians, I wish more than anything that something could be done to end this conflict NOW, and that the brave people of the Ukraine could be given back what is being stolen and the abuse they are facing would end.  
 
As far as the op discusion goes, nuclear threat is always meant to be a deterance, a last resort. The idea of it being a Mutually Assured Destruction, is unfortunately a very real possibility right now because one of the key players in the new Axis powers is obviously out of touch, and very much out of control, and there is no longer a pattern of predictability in how he responds to pressure.  
 
The situation is very fragile, and the changes are very fluid moment by moment right now, but we have to continue to remain diligent in putting pressure on Russia to listen to reason, and do everything we can to prevent war. Political and economic pressure has to be our weapon of choice.  
 
I really don't think people have a full grasp on what war would mean. Given the huge loss of life we've already seen from Russias assaults, it's more than obvious that a drawn out continental or potentially global conflict would be unimaginable, and the loss of life, and the potential destruction would be massive.  
 
Think of how many people across the globe would be drawn into a war. Civilian and military losses would be huge. Just think of what the dusruption to manufacturing and loss of life would do to global food and supply lines, agriculrure production, medical provision, economic structure, job losses, etc. War would be something that many of us would realistically not be at all prepared to survive due to every country having to compete for daily commodities that would quickly be in short supply because of limited supply and demand. The social fracture as a result of that would cause a lot of stress on everyone, and riots and protests would become increasingly more violent as supplies dwindle.  
 
Whatever hope we have, has to go into ending this conflict, saving and protecting life, and doing what is right. We must protect our freedom, and honor the values we were raised with. We must stand together with the Ukraine, united, hand in hand, as Canadians, against a tyrant that threatens the very fabric of global democracy.  
 
But most of all, let's all hope a nuclear threat, or all out war never ever happens in our lifetime.  
 
My heart breaks for the people of the Ukraine, for the families and the lives that are being ruined right now. I am so unbelievably sorry for what is happening. I wish we could all do more to help.  
 
Edited by Xplanation, 2022-03-05 17:12:02

The only solution to this current crisis is to remove Putin from the equation.

That is something that only the Russian people can do and they then need the ability to freely and democratically elect a replacement.

when Putin arrests or threatens to arrest his political opponent so he can run opposed. Putin is essentially a dictator by all standards. Putin is out for power, he doesn't want a democratically free election.  
 
Putin really wants the glory days of the USSR back eventhough he and the other oligarchs profited emmensly on the fall of the Soviet Union.  
 
Hope Putin is smart enough not to use nuclear on his own conscipted soldiers. Then again he probably doesn't care about his soldiers.

I am acutely aware of those facts Trevor but we must also be aware that this is too dangerous a situation for outside powers to interfere with or remove Russia’s leader. That would make matters worse and leave a power void. Such a change must come from within.