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Usa Election - Nov. 5Th

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Usa Election - Nov. 5Th
11/3/2024 at 8:58 PM

Any comments before and after?
I am not a Trump fan. I am sure there he has some good ideas, but never heard a solid plan to fix things.
Aside from his ability to manage business transactions and some economic strategies - but to run a country in his mental state, it maybe not be in the best interest of Americans. He just appears to be sub-human with his brain's inability to filter out the "diarrhea of the mouth" issues.
That said, I find it all amusing to say the least. Netflix/Crave has nothing close to this.
Tayler Man
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Tayler Man
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It's the weave you know.
11/3/2024 at 9:53 PM

He claims his incoherent ramblings are a well choreographed and intricate play on words that only he has mastered...my late staged Alheimer affected parent is the same...off in his own little world.

It just keeps getting more and more imbalanced.
hyde
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hyde
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Election
11/4/2024 at 9:30 AM

You mean word salad(there has never been a person more equipped to run America than President Trump hands-down
eng359
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Election
11/4/2024 at 11:03 AM

hyde said "You mean word salad(there has never been a person more equipped to run America than President Trump hands-down "
Go Trump Go
Tayler Man
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Tayler Man
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Go away Trump...Go Away!
11/4/2024 at 11:46 AM

It's going to be interesting for sure.

Personally, I think they're farther ahead with a prosecutor (even though she may or may not have worked at McD's) as long as she surrounds herself with legit advisors.

The "orange one" will surround himself with his most loyal grovelers and then watch him go wild! First target...those damn windmills that kill birds and whales!

If he loses, there will be craziness x 1000...especially when his sentences are handed down and he's taken away...Melania will be so happy!
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F8
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Ask not
11/4/2024 at 1:17 PM

what the country can do for you! Ask what you can do for your country! Where is that leadership? Calling down your potential voters and being racist m, is a poor leader. IMO
Trevor B

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It's just
11/4/2024 at 9:44 PM

not scary enough to have trump in power again, but people he will have in various departments. RFK, Jr. for Health is possible, and anti-vaxxer and conspiracy theorist. Elon Musk incharge of a department and who knows who else. He's going to make sure he gets people just as insane as he is to run the various departments.

I just can't believe it's this close to where he could be elected again. In the past the GOP would NEVER allow such a person to lead them.
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Election
11/5/2024 at 8:03 AM

I still remember:
- the sinking feeling on a drive back from Winnipeg on election night in 2016, knowing some of the kinds of things this guy winning the most powerful job there is would have a chance at normalizing. As the world was changing a wise friend reminded me “everyone gets a vote” and that clearly a lot of people who were underestimated and had felt unheard spoke up, whether or not it was for the right reasons
- the relief in 2020 when he lost, feeling that decency was winning out

Here we are again, and the stakes couldn’t be higher for fundamental issues like the health of the planet, the balance of world power, the rule of law, gender and racial equality, something as simple as a fact and the whole idea of an election in a democracy. Sure it's another country but the implications for this one are huge too.

I’m not sure I see the path to there being less division 24 hours from now, but gotta believe it starts with a vote that’s hopefully more convincing than 2020 that sends the old guy packing in a way he & enablers would have a hard time denying. Can’t tell if it’s heart or head talking, but I feel like women voters are going to offer up one gigantic “find out.” That combined with a female president is going to be another kind of “everyone gets a vote” reminder for some folks that really need one
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USA Election
11/5/2024 at 9:44 AM

I find it baffling that you can be impeached twice and have 34 felons and counting and still be a candidate to be the leader of the country!
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11/5/2024 at 10:28 AM

Adam said "
I still remember:
- the sinking feeling on a drive back from Winnipeg on election night in 2016, knowing some of the kinds of things this guy winning the most powerful job there is would have a chance at normalizing. As the world was changing a wise friend reminded me “everyone gets a vote” and that clearly a lot of people who were underestimated and had felt unheard spoke up, whether or not it was for the right reasons
- the relief in 2020 when he lost, feeling that decency was winning out

Here we are again, and the stakes couldn’t be higher for fundamental issues like the health of the planet, the balance of world power, the rule of law, gender and racial equality, something as simple as a fact and the whole idea of an election in a democracy. Sure it's another country but the implications for this one are huge too.

I’m not sure I see the path to there being less division 24 hours from now, but gotta believe it starts with a vote that’s hopefully more convincing than 2020 that sends the old guy packing in a way he & enablers would have a hard time denying. Can’t tell if it’s heart or head talking, but I feel like women voters are going to offer up one gigantic “find out.” That combined with a female president is going to be another kind of “everyone gets a vote” reminder for some folks that really need one
"
Absolutely agree. I think history demonstrates that other nations voting in fascist, self serving individuals can have implications that reach many nations. One candidate has manipulated millions of vulnerable people into believing his self serving rhetoric by using religion and racism to relate to the masses. There have been other charismatic leaders who have used times of economic and social crisis to manipulate voters into electing them, and then once they’ve gained power they have began pursuing their actual agenda that has ramifications that can be felt all over the world. Hopefully enough people can see beyond the lies to do what is right.
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Fight Fight Fight
11/5/2024 at 11:10 AM

We can only hope our neighbors get this right today and hopefully we can do the same here when we get the chance.
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11/5/2024 at 11:15 AM

Home Slice said "I find it baffling that you can be impeached twice and have 34 felons and counting and still be a candidate to be the leader of the country! "
How true, and OMG how baffling that people are not hearing what he is saying like the pathelogical lies constantly. THINK Republicans and listen already (some not all)
hyde
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hyde
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Election
11/5/2024 at 2:04 PM

What’s at stake
Freedom of speech
FBI showing up at your house
Mutilating children
Men in women’s sports
False imprisonment
Open borders
Government overreach
The list goes on…..and it’s not Trump who is doing this it’s the Biden Harris that’s been doing this for 4 years , but hey she said she wouldn’t change a thing
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Trump
11/5/2024 at 6:23 PM

gets my vote! MAGA
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11/5/2024 at 6:43 PM

hyde said "
What’s at stake
Freedom of speech
FBI showing up at your house
Mutilating children
Men in women’s sports
False imprisonment
Open borders
Government overreach
The list goes on…..and it’s not Trump who is doing this it’s the Biden Harris that’s been doing this for 4 years , but hey she said she wouldn’t change a thing
"
Wow. Several of your points are incredibly misinformed, but you missed the most important part- and that would be the fact that his presidency would continue to strip women of basic reproductive rights and access to life saving health care. You aforementioned freedom of speech, so surely the fact that certain states would like to monitor women’s health records to ensure they don’t ‘break the rules’, shouldn’t sit right with you. Also, I’m not sure why anyone in Canada would actually be advocating for a trump victory, because he does not care about Canada. He only cares for himself. His presidency could negatively affect trade deals with Canada, and considering that more than 77% of Canadian exports go to the USA, that doesn’t seem like a positive. Trumps proposition for an across the board 10% tariff has been projected to cost Canada $30 billion a year in economic costs. Also, trump is completely uneducated in politics- 40 members of his former administration have attested to this fact. They literally stated that he was completely uneducated in basic political knowledge, and was the biggest threat to democracy in most people’s lifetime. The man idolizes leaders like Hitler and Putin, and constantly lies to his followers and is refuted on a daily basis. He uses religion and racism to rally followers, when he clearly has no religious values and is simply creating a cult mentality. When he lost the 2020 election he encouraged storming the capital in a disgusting display of narcissism. He is also incredibly old. The entire idea of advocating for his presidency is ridiculous, and even more ridiculous from anyone in Canada when his presidency would have a negative impact on our economy. You can be a conservative in this country and still have the common sense to see that Trump is a complete idiot and his followers are so misguided and brainwashed is legitimately sad
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Reproductive Rights
11/5/2024 at 7:56 PM

Look up what happens if get caught destroying like a bald eagle egg ,
Still ‘unborn’.

And we as a society take it apon ourselves destroying unborn human beings and murder them without consequences .
What have we become ..

So I’m absolutely for someone who stands up for helpless human beings
Jubey
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Lol
11/5/2024 at 8:07 PM

Hasard said "Look up what happens if get caught destroying like a bald eagle egg ,
Still ‘unborn’.

And we as a society take it apon ourselves destroying unborn human beings and murder them without consequences .
What have we become ..

So I’m absolutely for someone who stands up for helpless human beings "
Human beings would be the key word here. An embryo is not a human being. Women often require abortions as a medical necessity, such as ectopic pregnancy or risk to the mothers. Children who have been assaulted should not be forced to go through a pregnancy, women who have been assaulted should not be forced to endure a pregnancy, and women who simply don’t want a child should also not be forced to endure a pregnancy. We don’t need to create laws based on religion, it’s absurd. Not everyone is a member of your ridiculous book club, and some of us would rather see laws based on common sense, science and freedom of choice.

Edited by Jubey, 2024-11-05 20:11:16
crownyboy
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Trump
11/6/2024 at 5:23 AM

wins!! The lefties and the fake mainstream media tried everything they could could to stop and destroy this man but failed miserably. Congrats Donny boy!!
Adam

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Election
11/6/2024 at 6:01 AM

Truly disappointing that that many either signed off on or weren’t paying enough attention to enable the kind of xenophobic, discriminatory, misogynistic, self-centred and authoritarian-inspired worldview that the campaign was about as overt as you can be about supporting.

The takeaway that I’ll build optimism around is that about 1 in every 2 people in that particular country were able to see through it. It’s what the other 1 in 2 will support for the next four years that has me concerned and hoping for the best for American friends. There are signs to hope Canada’s and Manitoba’s ratios are better than that as much as we clearly can’t take for granted how easily this type of movement can find people to check a box.
As a personal decision it’s time to put whatever energy I was putting into that country and focus as much as I can on the one I live, raise a child and run a business in. We've got some amazing pieces up here that make us consistently ranked as one of the best places in the world to live and one respected for its compassion and diversity. Today shows just how much that can't be taken for granted.
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pardons
11/6/2024 at 6:12 AM

How long till he pardons everyone in jail over Jan 6 ?
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Election
11/6/2024 at 7:58 AM

In Canada, the U.S. & much of Europe liberals have encouraged
mass migration solely as a means of retaining political power.
They totally disregard the resultant economic & social damage
in their greed for power.
This has resulted in a conservative upsurge & return to sensible
governance. The same will happen in Canada within a year.
naturelover
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Trump
11/6/2024 at 10:01 AM

His win just reflects on where majority of Americans are at today: Evil , Money, and Power rule: gone are pride, integrity, empahty, honesty, respect, just to name a few.
A sad day for the world with these power mongers in charge of a country.
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11/6/2024 at 10:44 AM

This thread illustrates the way that things are going. People have different versions of the truth and can choose who and what they believe. It's unfortunate that we are becoming more and more divided, with fewer and fewer common beliefs.

Our media and social media are helping to push us that way and I feel that Canada is also headed down that path.

Edited by TheBrofessor, 2024-11-06 10:44:38
Home Slice
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USA Elections
11/6/2024 at 11:19 AM

Like always you just have to adjust and go forward the best you can.
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Canada
11/6/2024 at 2:40 PM

Well Trump as president will not be good for Canada. Get ready for his bully tactics. He'll slap tariffs on Canadian goods right away as a negotiating tactic. It'll be like deja vu with wood products and dairy. He likes trade wars. He doesn't like U.S. car/parts manufacturers that have factories here and will pressure them to move to the US. And all those illegal immigrants he wants to chase out ? How many will head north?
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If
11/6/2024 at 4:38 PM

he does as he says and deports large numbers of illegal immigrants, who does he expect to do the work that they do for the wages that are currently being paid. It will not be Americans, as like in the UK when it left the EU all the Eastern Europeans that did the mucky, labour intensive jobs like fruit and vegetable picking, for low wages, did not come back in the same numbers and farmers/producers were unable to get home country staff to do the work for the previously paid wage, or the work conditions.
Same will apply in the States, so expect the price of imported foodstuffs to rise even before any additional tariffs are imposed.
Guess we will find out at the end of January, perhaps his friend will give every USA citizen a million pounds, would still leave him money in the bank.
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Then if
11/6/2024 at 5:07 PM

PP becomes PM, how much ass-kissing will he be doing to trump. Since most conservative voters in Canada tend to be very supportive of trump. Will PP just give into whatever trump wants, especially for renegotiating NAFTA.

Also funny how trump keeps demanding countries should pay their share into NATO when he has clearly made it clear that he doesn't pay anyone. How many cities where his rallies are held are still waiting for payment. There are numerous companies that have done work for his business and never got paid. His statements about paying overtime and will hire more people instead of paying OT. He's made a career out of scamming people then refusing to pay people. He's only going to cater to the wealthy billionaire donors.

The sheer fact that he got elected after being proven to be a liar and EVERYTHING else he has done. There is no other time in America's past anyone like trump would ever even be nominated. But it has been shown he can say and do anything and still be elected twice!!! He has made it ok to be hateful to anyone who isn't MAGA or share right-wing christian conservative values.
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Musk
11/6/2024 at 5:31 PM

There is also a good chance Musk will be involved in the trump government in a capacity that will directly benefit Musk. Musk wants reduced regulations that his companies have to follow. So getting rid of safety regulations for SpaceX and Tesla just so he can profit more. Musk wants less regulations for self-driving cars. Then if he can get rid of FAA regulations to allow his SpaceX plans to go unhindered

2 billionaires with huge egos incharge of the US is a huge mistake! But those egos will likely also clash bigtime as both want all of the attention.

Then if RFK, Jr is put in charge the health system, say hello to mass deaths from diseases that where kept in check with vaccines. If you though the health care system is bad now just wait. Women will be dying because they can't get care because in clashes with religious beliefs.

The US is in for a world of hurt and they voted for it. They believe the BS trump has told them that he will fix EVERYTHING.
hyde
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Pardons
11/6/2024 at 5:49 PM

Shoulda been done yesterday what a travesty the media has spun hope everyone is free as soon as possible ,cities burned to the ground whose in prison for that … I’m waiting
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Watch the Documentary
11/6/2024 at 6:21 PM

Requiem For The American Dream by Noam Chomsky. I watched this and it showed me what would transpire in America. I couldn't find a New copy so I purchased a previously viewed DVD. Please watch this and then you may understand. This is All by design.