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belzebob said "    Heritage said "The reality is that these ARE lean, hard times. Borrowing money to go into debt to cover it up doesn't mean a better life for Manitobans. We will suffer for what the Selinger government has spent. Many will blame it on the PCs.     I work in a government job, the waste has been appalling under NDP.     Either way, i think bringing up Filmon from how many decades ago is getting old haha. " while I do hope that Manitoba fares well in the next four years.     MR Filmon and MR, Pallister did in fact fire government employees and privatized MTS.     I am glad you still have a government job and hope in four years you still do.     the history of this party in Manitoba suggests something different. "

but it seems these Manitobans want to FEEL it for themselves - like I said "Buckle up KIDS - you will have the ride of your lifetime - " . . . this will be interesting is all I will say! Also, why is no one addressing the incomplete ballot issues? I noticed in the Spruce Woods info last night we had quite a few - so what is up with that???

I think that if they focus on things like education and infrastructure the school in Brandon will likely happen, there have been things done that likely can't be undone, like the reams and reams of legislation passed that were passed for workers safety that made operations of some businesses a nightmare, also there was amalgamation, which I think if we looked at it would show increased administrators and the same amount of employees which likely won't bring down the cost of running larger municipslities.  
Same as administration positions through different government departments, it got heavy and it got expensive. Would I like to see jobs disappear, in a way the answer is yes, maybe not so much in the people who actually do the work, but pencil pushers, yes.  
Last thing we need is more spending on ideas that don't benefit Manitobans as a whole.

braid said "Not during a deviatingly major provincial crisis.. The leader of the opposition should have been there for his constituents. "

if Palister had been here for the high water event he would have been accused of wanting a "photo op".

this time was NO union threw their support behind the NDP like what has happened in past elections. Not the police, firefighter/paramedics or nurses union spoke of any support.  
 
This tells me a lot. People wanted change badly.

My wife an I voted, our 2 children did not. Just after 6 pm we opened a phone message and the caller mentioned my children by name and asked if they were going to vote and if so, would it be for the conservatives.  
 
I was surprised they had access to he voters list from a polling station on election day and were using it to call those who had not voted.  
 
I deleted the message as is my usual practice and immediately regretted doing so. Something just does not seem right about this.

AG12 said "so im guessing that PC are in power now, that the new school proposed to be built in the south end of town is not going to happen? "

If I remember correctly when asked they wouldn't commit to it. Doesn't mean it wont happen, but it's an obvious place to save some of the dollars they are looking for.  
 
I hope the school goes ahead but I wouldn't count on it at this point until something is announced.  
 
This was actually my largest worry about the PCs getting in the short term.

VTB said "My wife an I voted, our 2 children did not. Just after 6 pm we opened a phone message and the caller mentioned my children by name and asked if they were going to vote and if so, would it be for the conservatives.     I was surprised they had access to he voters list from a polling station on election day and were using it to call those who had not voted.     I deleted the message as is my usual practice and immediately regretted doing so. Something just does not seem right about this. "

have voting lists. That's why they know you by name when they come to the door. That's how come they know your phone number, lol  
 
I usually get a call to see if I've already voted but didn't yesterday. I wonder if it's because we voted advance? Dunno.

Johnbisonbear said "    braid said "Not during a deviatingly major provincial crisis.. The leader of the opposition should have been there for his constituents. " if Palister had been here for the high water event he would have been accused of wanting a "photo op". "

Those from the Brandon administration i.e. Mayor asked people to stay away from Brandon during the crisis so flood workers could do their job.  
 
Pallister was in opposition what could he do and his constituents in Winnipeg were not being affected by the flood.  
 
As Jasonbisonbear said he would have been accused of a photo op just like Cretian was when he threw a sand bag during Winnipeg flood.  
 
People are grumbling about Pallister's vacation home. Don't hear anybody complaining about Selenger's cabin in Ontario and his tax dollars leaving Manitoba to go to Ontario. They are all allowed time off and with internet now business can still be done when out of the country.  
 
Congratulations to the winners and thanks to those that made effort to run for a job where they will have complainers no matter what they do.  
 

MrKellyGraham said "    AG12 said "so im guessing that PC are in power now, that the new school proposed to be built in the south end of town is not going to happen? " If I remember correctly when asked they wouldn't commit to it. Doesn't mean it wont happen, but it's an obvious place to save some of the dollars they are looking for.     I hope the school goes ahead but I wouldn't count on it at this point until something is announced.     This was actually my largest worry about the PCs getting in the short term. "

same here! Lets hope the newly elected PC have some sense and go to their leader and try to keep the school for the city of Brandon.  
 
IMO dollars should be saved in Winnipeg.

Just because the other leaders promised a school for Brandon doesn't mean it was going to happen. If we counted all the promises they made we all know only a small percentage was going to happen. The conservatives will look at where schools are needed and Brandon should come to the head of the list.

MrKellyGraham said "    AG12 said "so im guessing that PC are in power now, that the new school proposed to be built in the south end of town is not going to happen? " If I remember correctly when asked they wouldn't commit to it. Doesn't mean it wont happen, but it's an obvious place to save some of the dollars they are looking for.     I hope the school goes ahead but I wouldn't count on it at this point until something is announced.     This was actually my largest worry about the PCs getting in the short term. "

As I recall, the PC did not commit to anything when asked. They just reiterated that they would make a "BETTER" Manitoba - but even the term "BETTER" is ambivalent - and a vague term. What does BETTER mean to them??? They don't even know - so they really did not give us much info at all as to what exactly is their "BETTER PLAN" . . . I mean really . . . can't believe so many got drunk on the "BETTER PC Koolaid" . . .

whatthewhat said "    MrKellyGraham said "    AG12 said "so im guessing that PC are in power now, that the new school proposed to be built in the south end of town is not going to happen? " If I remember correctly when asked they wouldn't commit to it. Doesn't mean it wont happen, but it's an obvious place to save some of the dollars they are looking for.     I hope the school goes ahead but I wouldn't count on it at this point until something is announced.     This was actually my largest worry about the PCs getting in the short term. " As I recall, the PC did not commit to anything when asked. They just reiterated that they would make a "BETTER" Manitoba - but even the term "BETTER" is ambivalent - and a vague term. What does BETTER mean to them??? They don't even know - so they really did not give us much info at all as to what exactly is their "BETTER PLAN" . . . I mean really . . . can't believe so many got drunk on the "BETTER PC Koolaid" . . . "

Maybe to alot of people "better" means "we won't lie to you and raise the pst after we specifically denied that we would"

whatthewhat said "    MrKellyGraham said "    AG12 said "so im guessing that PC are in power now, that the new school proposed to be built in the south end of town is not going to happen? " If I remember correctly when asked they wouldn't commit to it. Doesn't mean it wont happen, but it's an obvious place to save some of the dollars they are looking for.     I hope the school goes ahead but I wouldn't count on it at this point until something is announced.     This was actually my largest worry about the PCs getting in the short term. " As I recall, the PC did not commit to anything when asked. They just reiterated that they would make a "BETTER" Manitoba - but even the term "BETTER" is ambivalent - and a vague term. What does BETTER mean to them??? They don't even know - so they really did not give us much info at all as to what exactly is their "BETTER PLAN" . . . I mean really . . . can't believe so many got drunk on the "BETTER PC Koolaid" . . . "

there was a paramedic interviewed who said that they had lots of conversation with the PCs. Nurses union also had talks and were happy with the change in government. Teachers have been talking the PCs too.  
 
All these people who have been drinking the orange kool-aid all these years decided that the province could not afford another for years of taxing and spending from the NDP.  
 
It's pretty sad when life long NDPers like myself have to change their vote for the betterment of the province.

I for one found the lack of commitments made by the PC's to be rather refreshing  
 
Every single election it seems like all parties promise the moon and then never follow through, or when they do it's some watered down version or a wholly different direction than they promised.  
 
Whatthewhat, you seem to be rather drunk on the ndp koolaid yourself  
 
 
 

In all fairness, it went downhill when Selinger took over. Gary Doer did a fine job...

I declined my ballot because there were no options this election. I'm not talking about just the PC's and NDP, but also Liberal and Green. There weren't any candidates worth voting for.  
 
Having said that, it's interesting to note that during one of his first interviews as Premiere Elect, Pallister waffled on cutting the PST back to 7% saying that it might be 2 or 3 years before that happens. smh... and this guy is running the show now... no better than the last.

JR said "I declined my ballot because there were no options this election. I'm not talking about just the PC's and NDP, but also Liberal and Green. There weren't any candidates worth voting for.     Having said that, it's interesting to note that during one of his first interviews as Premiere Elect, Pallister waffled on cutting the PST back to 7% saying that it might be 2 or 3 years before that happens. smh... and this guy is running the show now... no better than the last. "

As much as many believe it was wrong to raise it like the NDP did, it is something we have now become accustomed to. Therefore, as much as it sounds good, an election promise, but in reality why? Manitoba is in debt, there still are many roads/bridges and other infrastructure needing repairs. There still is health care for baby boomers retiring and education system needing improvement. I have no problems if he/PC's have to decide to leave the PST where it is now, BUT use this extra revenue more WISELY!

JR said "I declined my ballot because there were no options this election. I'm not talking about just the PC's and NDP, but also Liberal and Green. There weren't any candidates worth voting for.     Having said that, it's interesting to note that during one of his first interviews as Premiere Elect, Pallister waffled on cutting the PST back to 7% saying that it might be 2 or 3 years before that happens. smh... and this guy is running the show now... no better than the last. "

It is absolutely fine you declined your ballot, I have respect for that. Rather than sitting on your butt and not bothering, you voiced a vote.  
 
I do not however, think it would be smart of the Premier Elect to drop the PST right away. Would it be nice if he could? Of course. But while I completely disagreed with the way the former government brought the increase about I am not convinced we did not NEED it. So long as the funds are managed properly and prudently (which I do not believe the former government was prepared to do), then I am all for it staying up a few years longer.  
 
It sucks the way they slipped it in, and it sucks the way it has been applied - so I would really like to see it removed from items like insurance and necessities. But that 1% has not broken my bank. (I am actually right at the poverty line for a family of four BTW) The closest I can figure it has cost my family around 200 bucks a year.  
 
If my government is spending that wisely on roads or bridges or safety issues in the province, I am happy to keep paying it. I personally have not noticed people buying fewer luxury items due to the increase.

myhandleistrain said "Disagree. Reduce the PST! As a staunch PC'er, money is available. Cut useless spending, and make social program people accountable. Trust me, there is millions of $$$ that the NDP pumped into useless "you scratch my back, I scratch yours" deals. Nope, Mr. Pallister needs to reduce this tax and find that lost money. Fellow Manitobans, we need to provincially tighten our belts, as we need to on a personal level. Nobody, or no government, can run a deficit! Think about it! Needs, not wants! "

How about road repair? That seems like a "need" to me - in particular for Manitoba. Even by trimming all the "fat" in government (with the resulting layoffs, loss of income tax revenue etc), there just won't be enough money in this have-not province for infrastructure repair and renewal without dipping into the deficit bank. Let's face it, those construction companies aren't going to do all of that work out of the goodness of their hearts without compensation. I wonder how Pallister's vollyball education will deal with that?

myhandleistrain said "Disagree. Reduce the PST! As a staunch PC'er, money is available. Cut useless spending, and make social program people accountable. Trust me, there is millions of $$$ that the NDP pumped into useless "you scratch my back, I scratch yours" deals. Nope, Mr. Pallister needs to reduce this tax and find that lost money. Fellow Manitobans, we need to provincially tighten our belts, as we need to on a personal level. Nobody, or no government, can run a deficit! Think about it! Needs, not wants! "

Is infrastructure repair a need or a want? Finding lost money, tightening our belts, etc will barely pay for redoing a few km of our worst roads and bridges.