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Delivery money can't be that bad when I see a newer Dodge pick up truck being used for deliveries.

You do realize the driver doesn’t get the delivery fee right? That it goes to the restaurant lol. Yes, the driver is paid per del, but at the establishment I worked at it wasn’t the del fee lol.

It so easy to stand behind a computer and complain about ppl that bring you your food at all hours of the day and no matter the weather. I was a delivery driver, i did it to make extra cash for my kids to enjoy a little fun cause my main job did not pay me enough to cover all my bill and give us a little fun. I remember diving pizza in the pouring rain socked from head to toe and not getting a single tip while you sit there in your house laughing at me. I work 13 hour days between two jobs to make an extra 80 bucks. Yes i got to write off some of my car expanses. But I paid for the extra gas and the extra maintenance, But Shame on you all for being so disrespectful to those drivers, they are serving you and if they did a bad job that fine dont tip but if they did a good job tip a buck it goes a long way to those that are in need. most of the driver in this town have two jobs or more. I been tip 10 cent once and was told that your tip. Whatever happened to friendly Manitoba. After reading this post it seems it should be changed.  
 
As for the Delivery fee a drive sees bit of that like 1.35 per delivery. you till me how many tips i have t make from 5 to 10 to make 80 on 1.35, do the math, it impossible to deliver that much in that time.  
 
All i ask is be respectful to your driver treat him as if you where the one on the other side of the door. Be good to other you never know when you might need them or karma will get you.

Not to be disrespectful, but ...  
 
At some point the employee, or, heaven forbid, the employer should be taking responsibility for making sure the job pays a wage that makes the job worth doing. If no one was willing to work for what must be starvation wages (in hopes of getting tips to cover the shortfall) pretty soon the employer would have to pay more.  
 
The consumer shouldn't have to cover the cost of the food and also be expected to top up the drivers wages as well. If the employer paying the driver a reasonable wage causes an increase in prices, at least the price would reflect the actual cost of production and delivery. Then, those not willing or able to add a tip to the end cost wouldn't (shouldn't) be held accountable for the poor financial situation of the driver, as was done in the OP.

fargobob said "Not to be disrespectful, but ...     At some point the employee, or, heaven forbid, the employer should be taking responsibility for making sure the job pays a wage that makes the job worth doing. If no one was willing to work for what must be starvation wages (in hopes of getting tips to cover the shortfall) pretty soon the employer would have to pay more.     The consumer shouldn't have to cover the cost of the food and also be expected to top up the drivers wages as well. If the employer paying the driver a reasonable wage causes an increase in prices, at least the price would reflect the actual cost of production and delivery. Then, those not willing or able to add a tip to the end cost wouldn't (shouldn't) be held accountable for the poor financial situation of the driver, as was done in the OP. "

are contract drivers so min wage does not apply. Yes you are correct it not the customer job to sublet the pay and nor are you forced to tip, i hope i did not come across saying that. People in this town want everything for cheep, having been in the industry for a number of years, i have seen delivery service not being used as much as it was in 2013 the delivery fee has increase tho and most ppl are pickup there order cause it cheaper. Nothing wrong with that and i am one of those ppl cause i simple cant afford to tip. but if food being delivery to me I tip. i live in the east end, and i know that drive to where i am ordering from is a bit of a long one so it 5 buck cause he going to miss two trips. I know that may sound a bit rich but i did this job for 5 years so i understand. But like i said treat other like you want to be treated and there thread would not be here. I think it BS everytime this tip convo comes up. It sad, but that my 2 cents

Missing in Action said "It so easy to stand behind a computer and complain about ppl that bring you your food at all hours of the day and no matter the weather. I was a delivery driver, i did it to make extra cash for my kids to enjoy a little fun cause my main job did not pay me enough to cover all my bill and give us a little fun. I remember diving pizza in the pouring rain socked from head to toe and not getting a single tip while you sit there in your house laughing at me. I work 13 hour days between two jobs to make an extra 80 bucks. Yes i got to write off some of my car expanses. But I paid for the extra gas and the extra maintenance, But Shame on you all for being so disrespectful to those drivers, they are serving you and if they did a bad job that fine dont tip but if they did a good job tip a buck it goes a long way to those that are in need. most of the driver in this town have two jobs or more. I been tip 10 cent once and was told that your tip. Whatever happened to friendly Manitoba. After reading this post it seems it should be changed.     As for the Delivery fee a drive sees bit of that like 1.35 per delivery. you till me how many tips i have t make from 5 to 10 to make 80 on 1.35, do the math, it impossible to deliver that much in that time.     All i ask is be respectful to your driver treat him as if you where the one on the other side of the door. Be good to other you never know when you might need them or karma will get you. "

Do you know how many jobs I've had where I worked from 6am till 8pm cleaning someones yard up and putting in new bushes...ripping their lawns out with a shovel and hauling the sod out in a wheel barrow ....then put the new loam in one load at a time hauled in from the street down a narrow path to their back yard...yada yada yada...while they sat on their deck drinking coolers and swimming in their pools. Didn't bother me...I was a professional being paid to do a job. You know how many. tips I received after knocking on their doors at 9pm covered in mud soaked in the pouring rain I'd been working in all day because we had so many jobs lined up I couldn't take a rain day? None. Do you know how much I made? $8/hour...when minimum wage was $7. Did it for straight wages because if I didn't like I was free to leave, so as a young guy starting out I kept at it because it was the most money I could make at the time. I never half assed it and I didn't complain about the wage because my Dad always used to say "a guy that won't do F@$k all for $7 won't work any harder for $40...You either got "IT" or you don't"...and I had IT.

If the company doesn't pay enough - QUIT!  
Where tips are required, I do not go.  
Where they are deserved I will go frequently. Work for it & you MIGHT get it.

I never asked for it and my service never changed if i got a tip or did not. I always gave my best if i was late i apologized and handed a coupon but 95% of the time i was there in 20 min after you placed the order. regardless if you decided to tip me or not. They are earned. There are tons of jobs that are hard and require in all sore of conditions. being a delivery drive has expanses that are not on the company.i will leave it at that. its a jester and all i was saying is to look at it from a different view not your own and treat ppl that service you with bit of respect. That all.  
 
Also you are not required to tip so dont, i dont know a single restaurant that say you have to tip.

... I'm going to wade in, LOL.  
 
I'm noticing a common couple of themes. One is that tipping is not required, therefore people are opting not to tip for various reasons. The other is that the customer is stating they can't afford the tip.  
 
It's lead me to ask myself two questions:  
 
1. Although tipping is not required, it's generally considered courteous and common practice to do so in the service industry. So common, in fact, like others have pointed out that wages are adjusted to account for this (i.e. paying lower wages/contract prices).  
 
So, how do you feel if the price of a "fair wage" is automatically built in i.e. prices go up? How will that impact your spending habits? How does that change your thinking, knowing that you are currently NOT paying the "actual retail price" of a pizza for example, because the cost for delivering that pizza isn't actually built into the price?  
 
2. Those who complain that they can't afford the tip, let's say $3 of a $30 pizza order (10%), can you afford to eat out? Pizzas are not hard to make, and can be made for a fraction of the cost. Even frozen pizzas from the store are usually substantially cheaper and can be cooked for about the same amount of time as waiting for delivery (and about the same amount of effort if you have them already in the freezer at home).  
 
If you're actually using the "I can't afford it" as an argument, is there maybe a larger picture that needs to be examined in terms of your overall financial health? I'm not saying that peole should never eat out, but shouldn't the tip be part of the amount budgeted for the activity? If you honestly can't afford a $3 tip, can you afford $30 for a couple of pizzas?  
 
Just my thoughts.

What's the difference between a canoe and a Manitoban? One of them tips.  
 
I lived in Ontario for a while and everyone tips everyone out there, but in Manitoba our culture is different and very few do.