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The Beyond Meat patties taste good but are about double the price of lean ground beef. Around 9-10 dollars a pound I believe. Its definitely a solid substitution for meat. Just a little pricey.

They're good but too expensive still. Need more companies to release a competing product to help drive the cost down.

Love these burgers. I got hooked when A&W started offering them and won’t be going back to regular burgers. Since they don’t contain animal products they have no cholesterol which makes me feel better although I understand they aren’t “health food.” They also use incredibly less resources to produce so it’s a better choice environmentally. They are high in protein and since Roquette Frères is spending $400 million to build the largest pea processing plant in the world in Portage La Prairie which is Beyond Meat’s supplier it’s supporting local farmers. The price is supposed to drop in the coming year but until then it’s defiantly a nice treat and there are 1/2 off coupons floating around for A&W.

Every food product grown by food producers has a carbon foot print, so less cows and less people makes sense, no cows would be ridiculous  
 
Edited by Midway55, 2019-06-18 17:05:08

If you don’t want to eat meat, why do you need something that resembles meat?? Asking for a friend.

The Beyond Meat burger is the best veggie burger I've had. Very tasty and can be used in other dishes too.

I've wondered that too sometimes. I've thought of two reasons:  
 
1 . We crave meat. We're omnivores by design, and there are qualities in meat that are highly attractive to us, such as the taste, the fat, mouthfeel (that indicates the presence of fat, etc)... all things that are biologically programmed in us because those things were desirable in a food. Meat is a calorie and nutrition bonanza in nature.  
 
As we move generally towards plant-based diets, it's a really hard adjustment to make for many people. You crave meat, but that craving probably fades. So meat substitutes help that transition as people adjust to new mouthfeels and finding new ways to satiate themselves.  
 
2. We have lots of social activities that centre around food, and specifically meat. Turkey, hot dogs, burgers, etc... again because we're transitioning our culture away from animal-based foods, there's currently a gap until we have new food traditions.

managed cows can actually be very good for the environment.  
https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/study-white-oak-pastures-beef-reduces-atmospheric-carbon-300841416.html

Beyond Burger nutrition is pretty close to a beef burger.  
Per four-ounce uncooked Beyond Burger patty, you’ll get:  
• Calories: 270  
• Fat: 20 g (5 g sat fat)  
• Sodium: 380 mg  
• Carbohydrates: 5 grams  
• Fiber: 3 grams  
• Sugars: 0 grams  
• Protein: 20 grams  
As for other highlights, the Beyond Burger packs in 30 percent of your daily iron quota and an impressive amount of phosphorus (which is found in your bones and teeth), along with some vitamin C.  
Compare that to four ounces of raw beef (80 percent lean):  
• Calories: 287  
• Fat: 23 g (9 g sat fat)  
• Sodium: 75 mg  
• Carbohydrates: 0 g  
• Fiber: 0 g  
• Sugars: 0 g  
• Protein: 19 g  
The downer: Fat and calorie-wise, the Beyond Burger is about on-par with a beef burger, says Dallas-based nutritionist Amy Goodson, RD, CSSD. And then there’s the fact that while it may have a good amount of protein (20 grams), it doesn’t exactly have vegetables (pea protein isolate def doesn’t count). So despite being a "veggie burger," it's not getting you any closer to your five to seven servings of vegetables a day, she says.  
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So if you’re turning to the Beyond Burger to save on fat or cals, you’ll be disappointed, Goodson says. Plus, you can make or break the health of any burger by the friends you pair it with, she says: Choose avocado and mustard for toppings and slap it on a whole-grain bun.  
How does it compare to the Impossible Burger?  
You may have heard about another popular meat-alternative out there: Impossible Burger. This burger is designed to look, taste, and smell just like a standard beef burger. It even appears to "bleed" thanks to special ingredient soy leghemoglobinwhich is found naturally in the roots of soybean plants. Other than that, it's main ingredients are pretty similar to the Beyond Burger: water, soy protein concentrate, coconut oil, sunflower oil, natural flavors.  
And it's nutrition breakdown is close, as well:  
• Calories: 220  
• Fat: 13 g (10 g saturated)  
• Sodium: 430 mg  
• Carbohydrates: 5 g  
• Fiber: 0 g  
• Sugar: Less than 1 g  
• Protein: 20 g  
 
wow i think i will stay with the real beef burger as the plant made ones the sodium is too high for me

"However, an obesity expert at the University of Ottawa cautions the public to not be fooled into thinking that these are a nutritionally healthier alternative, as the saturated fat content is similar to beef burgers and they contain higher sodium levels."  
 
Make sure you know what you are eating. These "fake' burgers or what was called a veggie burger is not as healthy as you think.  
 
Plus lets stop calling them meat or beef. They are NOT.

some people do not like the comparison of plant based food using the term "burger" or "sausage" in their advertising. Traditional definitions of both burger and sausage refer to minced beef or pork made into a patty or encased in a membrane. Call it what it is "plant based filler". Let the taste or price be the determining factor in a person choosing.  
Also as far as the "plant based filler" being better for the environment-how did the Indigenous people ever survive hundreds of years ago when so many buffalo-deer-elk-and moose roamed North America-all admitting methane gas

I love making omelets, my wife says I make the perfect omelet. One morning my daughters fiancé asked if I could make him a cheese and mushroom omelet, and I did, without tasting it he covered it with ketchup and when done said it was one of the most tasty things he had ever eaten, needless to say he’s not getting another omelet.  
The reason for the story has to do with me having to have an A&W beyond burger, you can’t judge without trying one. My wife and I stopped at an A&W and got a teen burger and a beyond burger, and we shared. My wife said she would not eat another, just the situation of not liking it, as for myself I didn’t mind the texture when you bit into the meat, but the texture of the meat seemed to remain the same regardless of the number of times it was chewed.  
Now back to the omelet story, I saved a piece of the beyond burger and washed all the sauces and condiments off to get the true taste of the burger, that was where I was disappointed, the taste of just the burger was not what I would say I liked. It was sort of like an omelet covered with ketchup, the tasted of the burger was enhanced by the sauces and condiments, but I buy burgers for the taste of the meat. For myself, some home made burgers are just a pattie and a bun, pretty sure it would not suit my tastes with a beyond pattie.  
I do have other concerns with plant based proteins, such as residual chemicals and other things that are a part of grain production in today’s world, and the jury is still out on many of them, and only time will tell.

So cows are bad for the environment. But running farm machinery to seed, spray and harvest the crop to make a beef like protein is better for the environment?  
Real meat contributes to obesity. But how many overweight people did you see pictures of prior to 1970 when as a society we were more active instead of watching TV or being internet warriors.  
Spraying herbicides and pesticides to control weeds and bugs in the city are so bad for us that we have laws against it. Using growth hormones and vaccines on animals that we eat cause protests and boycotts. But as a farmer growing an alternative to meat I can spray herbicides to control volunteer crops such as weeds I can spray pesticides to control pest insects such as worms and moths I can use fertilizers to make my plants stronger more resistant to disease and increase my yield. This is all in the end better for you the consumer and the environment then cows because of the methane they produce and leave on the ground when they do what is natural that everyone of us do each day in a toilet. Sounds like manure to me.

Read the nutrition label on the beyond burgers at Safeway and I will not be buying them-there is far too much salt in them.

If you think this product has any reason to be discussed on this discussion site why not take your opinions to A&W and sit there and praise the hell out of it. This product and A&W should be boycotted for what they preach. Canadian beef producers work hard to raise a product thats the best in the world and safe . Support the cattle producers not some load mouth company like A&W just because they think they have some amazing product THEY say in a great alternative to beef because there isn't , don't like were this brain washing B.S is going

I will never try fake meat. I like meat, eat meat and will never eat fake meat lol.  
 
I agree with what a previous poster stated. If people actually knew how much chemicals were dumped on the crops used to grow our food you would definitely think twice!  
 
We follow low carb/Keto style eating and eat a lot of meat. We haven’t felt this good in years.

We usually buy our meat (beef and pork) from a local farmer and raise our own chickens/ducks for meat and eggs. We also have a huge garden. I try my best to limit the amount of chemicals our food has been soaked in. It all helps

lots of good plant based burger recipes on line...videos too. that way you can control your sodium etc...

Natural grass and Hay for the most part, but thanks for the input. Some oats but we never sprayed the crap out of it either. Buy local meats support your local farmer and get rid of the plant based garbage.

Nobody ever: Hey, I want a steak, but make it look, feel and taste like a cucumber.  
 
lol

I haven't yet tried the beyond meat patties, but I've tried another brand of the same product (this one was made of chickpeas if memory serves). Very enjoyable and definitely a worthy replacement to carbon-intensive meat.  
 
But the price point is WAY off at the moment. I suspect that has a lot to do with subsidies. But as with everything else, these things change with the passage of time.  
 
Around here, I give it 20 years.

the sodium is WAY too high for me as well which is why I won't eat the "Beyond Burger" products. And anyone thinking that this is saving the planet & environment because those nasty cows..... fart methane?? Start doing a bit of research and find out about the environmental impact of growing all those plant-based products. They use LOTS more chemical sprays etc. than having cows graze on pasture. The farm equipment used to grow the crops is spewing out MUCH more CO2 than farting cows. Lastly, those pastures the nasty, farting cows graze on is a NATURAL CARBON SINK i.e. captures much more CO2 than growing soybeans. Just saying that plant-based products aren't that much better than grazing cattle for the environment.

Cows graze land not fit for cultivation and preserve the environment. Buffalo herds outnumbered the amount of cows we have now so that destroys the climate change argument. Beyond meat should be called beyond peas and let the consumer decide what they want to eat.

Meat has a far higher carbon footprint.  
 
https://www.businessinsider.com/the-top-10-foods-with-the-biggest-environmental-footprint-2015-9/  
 
Not sure where your getting your information. Please provide links to for your facts.  
 
Marpet

There is no evidence to show that buffalo herds outnumbered cattle herds but rather cattle displaced the number of ruminants. As far as destroying the climate arguement, that seems a stretch. Beef production isnt as simple as letting a couple herds into the field and waiting for them to fatten up. For most of the population, beef production is an industrial process. Feed is grown and fed to animals at feedlots. Agriculture used to support the feedlot is extremely carbon intensive as is the water use and disposal of waste. Free range cattle is a great idea but for the vast population, that's not how it happens.  
 
https://www.quora.com/Did-prehistoric-herds-numbering-millions-of-ruminants-bisons-antelopes-aurochs-buffaloes-etc-release-as-much-methane-as-modern-cattle  
 
Read the second answer.  
 
Marpet

So there is no actual proof that bison outnumbered cattle but we were taught in history in school that there were greater than 60 million buffalo that roamed North America at one time, not counting all the other wild ruminant animals.  
Does all the crops and hay grown to feed the cattle in feedlots not sequester carbon from the atmosphere? Farmers take more carbon out of the atmosphere than we put in for sure but yet fingers are pointed at agriculture.  
Climate change is happening but it has always happened thru the ages and always will, we CAN'T stop it. Climate goes in cycles and that is proven thru history.  
Trouble is people have built their homes in floodplains in the last 100 years. If you build in a valley or along a river or on a lake shore, flooding will eventually happen. Then the media spins it as climate change!

"Farmers take more carbon out of the atmosphere than we put in for sure but yet fingers are pointed at agriculture."  
 
Please provide the evidence that agriculture is carbon negative.  
 
The EPA stated in 2017 that agriculture produced 9% of the countries emissions.  
 
https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/sources-greenhouse-gas-emissions  
 
Also, cattle number exceed 100 million in 2018 in North America.  
 
https://beef2live.com/story-world-cattle-inventory-ranking-countries-0-106905  
 
To imply that scientists base their evidence of climate change solely on floodplain flooding just proves that you haven't done any research into climate change. Ocean acidification, warming atmospheric temperatures at exceptionally fast rates, the melting of ancient ice fields, flooding of coastal areas, increased severity of storms, etc, etc, etc. All of this points in a direction and that direction is that humans are accelerating climate change and throwing the natural cycle out of balance. Yes, there is a natural cycle but fossil fuel production is not a natural source.  
 
As far as "fake meat" is concerned, it's an option for those who want to lower their carbon footprint by reducing the real meat intake. They should also be reducing their chicken and fish intake as those meats also have larger carbon footprints. It's also good for those who have an ethical dilemma regarding eating meat. I, for one have tried Beyond Meat and enjoy it. Hopefully the price will come down a bit but as an alternative to meat, I will continue to support companies that provide options. I will also continue to support our local butchers.  
 
Marpet  
 
Edited by Marpet, 2019-06-22 10:11:43

The chart you refer to only says what agriculture produces. Doesn't say how much carbon agriculture takes out of the atmosphere. Farming practices have changed to minimal or zero till which releases less carbon. As well all green plants use carbon during their growing cycle (remember your Grade 5 science)which takes carbon out of the atmosphere. So all the millions of acres of crops grown each year, whether to feed animals or humans actually help reduce the carbon.

Before spouting off about all the dangerous chemicals that farmers knowingly dump all over the place to control things, maybe look into the actual rates first....since this thread is talking about numbers.  
 
An acre is 16 feet wide by a half mile. A decent area.  
 
Round up, that horrible thing that kills everything in its path is mixed at .67 litres and anywhere from 5-10 gallons of water and covers that area. That’s the amount of a small bottle of pop.  
 
A basic fungicide that will control disease and some bugs is tank mixed at about 120ml per acre with about 10-15 gallons of water. Holy moley Batman!  
 
Farmers don’t dump chemicals on anything, that’s beyond ridiculous. However if you would like to point fingers, start with those nice big cities that dump their sewage into rivers, lakes and oceans. Checkmate.

..a report by the EPA measuring all sources of emissions and sinks. The net emissions are greater then the sinks.  
 
https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/inventory-us-greenhouse-gas-emissions-and-sinks  
 
Marpet