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If the suspension period is over why would you need the blower? I thought it was for people that wanted to drive during the suspension period? For work/school purposes etc.  
 
I'll go back to the Young and the Restless and let people that know more chime in.

~BooBoo~ said "I’ve done some research on the blow box ms. Daisy. They actually are not as easy to use as one would think. It’s not a matter of just simply blowing into it and you’re good to go.     It’s people like you I truly wish something bad will happen to so you can be knocked off that high horse you so graciously ride around on. Unless you have been in the situation of a dui, have a family member going through one, or have to deal with the fall out of a machine like this topic is about, Maybe stop being a keyboard warrior and go watch some young and the restless to get your fill of drama.     I actually found some of the original posters talked about issues to be valid if it can have those serious issues towards a vehicle.     Not everyone who gets a dui is a bad person. Not everyone is 3-4 times over the legal limit and has caused or caused an accident as a result. Not everyone is a repeat offender that doesn’t learn from their mistake. You can’t paint everyone with the same brush on this topic. Sadly they have just cracked down on the laws around this, even for 1st time offenders. "

Even one times over the legal limit is enough.  
 
Their turn will come when they cause an accident - keep on drinking and driving.  
 
No one should be an offender, no less a repeat offender.  
 
Sadly they have just cracked down on the laws, even for 1st time offenders. Can you clarify that for me. What I am getting out of your statements is that they have clamped down on first time offenders and it should not be that way. First time offenders, should get off a little easier?  
 
That is my take on your statement - am I wrong, then please explain what you mean.  
 
If you mean it is sad first time offenders are getting clamped down on like 3 and 4 time offenders, so what? Do the crime, take your punishment.  
 
Heard the story many times - my first time driving drunk and I got in an accident....sure it was. Doesn't matter 1st or fourth, punishment should be harsh for each.  
 
Alcohol, cars - kill.

Look I’m not excusing drinking and driving or trying to make excuses for their behaviour. I agree they did the crime do the time. But if the program in place for these people comes with a machine that can have serious effects on a vehicle then maybe the machine does need to be looked at and something better in place. Others have already stated issues they have faced and there is no help in dealing with it, instead the answer is to just keep charging them more money and tacking more time onto how long they need the device for. That’s what this post is about.  
 
They changed the rules for what happens to a first time offender if they blow over .08  
 
Vehicle impoundment for a minimum 30 days.  
 
License suspension until court and once convicted the judge decides how long their license is gone for but it is a minimum 1 year.  
 
$1000 minimum fine  
 
Courses through afm that aren’t cheap  
 
However much it costs to get your license back since it’s an automatic 10 demerits.  
 
Then yes the interlock program. Which is Mandatory for 1 year after the suspension is complete. Is there an option to start the interlock program sooner, yes, but it is still mandatory to have the box for a year.  
 
Again to everyone saying they shouldn’t have drank and drove, they obviously already know that. But this post is about the negative side to the interlock program/ box not stating the obvious to someone who may be trying to turn their life around.  
 
It also clearly states, anyone who is going to be using the vehicle the box is installed in needs to be taught how it works because it’s not a matter of simply blowing into a straw as someone else put it.

~BooBoo~ said "Look I’m not excusing drinking and driving or trying to make excuses for their behaviour. I agree they did the crime do the time. But if the program in place for these people comes with a machine that can have serious effects on a vehicle then maybe the machine does need to be looked at and something better in place. Others have already stated issues they have faced and there is no help in dealing with it, instead the answer is to just keep charging them more money and tacking more time onto how long they need the device for. That’s what this post is about.     They changed the rules for what happens to a first time offender if they blow over .08     Vehicle impoundment for a minimum 30 days.     License suspension until court and once convicted the judge decides how long their license is gone for but it is a minimum 1 year.     $1000 minimum fine     Courses through afm that aren’t cheap     However much it costs to get your license back since it’s an automatic 10 demerits.     Then yes the interlock program. Which is Mandatory for 1 year after the suspension is complete. Is there an option to start the interlock program sooner, yes, but it is still mandatory to have the box for a year.     Again to everyone saying they shouldn’t have drank and drove, they obviously already know that. But this post is about the negative side to the interlock program/ box not stating the obvious to someone who may be trying to turn their life around.     It also clearly states, anyone who is going to be using the vehicle the box is installed in needs to be taught how it works because it’s not a matter of simply blowing into a straw as someone else put it. "

drinking and driving can affect a lot of people.  
 
Can affect your work, your personal life and we know it can kill.  
 
The rules can't be strong enough - if people think they can drink and drive, then they need to face the consequences, harsher the better.  
 
Maybe then there won't be 3 and 4 time offenders.

Thread is laughable! You are the won that CHOSE to drink and drive. It is 100% ALWAYS a choice, you endangered the lives of everyone on the road when you chose to do so, now you need to jump through whatever hoops you need to to make you life work including moving closer to work if need be

ok, so what you all aginst having this device removed are saying is its needed. that it seems to be the cure. after all many on here have said" you did the crime, so do the time. and return to normal society only after"  
so the device is the cure? if its removed, then drunks will continue to go on their murderous rampage!! so then, explain to everyone WHY its needed. what exactly is the difference to reforming such a menace to society that this magical machine does?  
but... many have used it and, and have re-offended? but why, the machine should have stopped them?  
and then there is myself... I havnt even started yet, and completely quit drinking altogether! not a requirement at all. my own AFM worker said, and I quote" a miraculous change, an example to others. if I could give you back your driving liscence right now , I would"  
so how is it after whatever the courts decide for time served, its suddenly ok? or once a drunk, always a drunk...

Glad to hear you were and are able to quit drinking altogether. Good on you. After just reading this entire thread, I’m amazed that after all the years I’ve been alive and constantly told that nobody is perfect, well I had know idea there were so many perfect people in Brandon and area. So many in this thread appear to have never ever broken a law, made complete stops at stop signs, never sped, never ran a yellow light, always signalled. Good on all those perfect people, I will most definately drive safer today knowing there is all those perfect drivers are on the streets of Brandon. Give me a break.

Has the worst drivers I have ever come across. I used to think Winnipeg was bad and then I moved to Brandon. What a big difference. Winnipeg drivers are angels compared to Brandon drivers.  
Canada,s Worst Drivers tv show should be filmed here. I am sure the producers could get another 10 more seasons easy with using brandon drivers.

These devices are not intended as a penalty for drivers but, rather are intended to influence safer driving behaviour by physically separating driving from drinking alcohol.  
 
That's from our Gov. So no one is suffering any consequences with these lemons. Pardon me, electronic devices. You can choose to go completely towards AFM and MPIs programs, for example, having three years of signed MPI forms from an A.A sponsor providing valid proof that meetings were being attended, and improvement was continuing. Years later after serving a suspension. Two and a half years of blowing zero blood alcohol.  
Not one infraction, nothing. Going on seven years of sobriety, my six year old asks what the device is...  
 
Well it's Manitoba bill 34 under the safer roads act. Do we all need this?  
First time offenders, I hope learn a lesson but no, in no way, shape or form am I whining about first time offenders. I don't really care about a first time offender there's nothing I can do as one person to prevent 1400-2000 first time offenders for the year in our province. Although, they do deserve to vent their issues with a weak program, and an electronic device that is faulty. Many will walk, don't worry. Many can't afford it, many still don't gain respect for the law and just keep on going. Of course they will get caught, you are right! As for those who have children, and are trying to do everything right, because mistakes were made. They are the ones dealing with it, and the penalties that I have never experienced but have listened to multiple stories that are not right. You can quietly go through the program while your buddy blows into it and not complain about its reliability or use but nothing, nothing is stopping them from getting into an accident. When those who serve and protect and have sworn are driving under the influence, I think everyone no matter who, can voice their opinion, in a respectable manor.  
Alcoholism, what about that? Why are we the youngest legal drinking age in Canada? Why is the LC open later now and on $undays? Re-Habs and treatment centres are full. Due to addictions and alcoholism. For those who don't have a problem you are kindly excused from any negative opinions on this stuff, but for alcololics who are suffering, it's tough. I want to bring up another interesting point: those who blow numerous fails into the device. Pay a penalty, yet get it removed with a full license back, repeat offender I should also note. How does this person get to drive? Was there a slip in the file and the fails were missed? Does the history of descisions made by our province allowing this individual to drive after a fatality get looked at? There needs to be an appeal procces. There's an appeal procces for a suspension...  
 
I will continue to do as I am told, write to my MP.

Remember back in the day? When you were told to get home! Or I better not see you again tonight! When it was acceptable? Give your head a shake if you forget. It wasn''t that long ago. With enough money people can get away with it anyway so, instead of banging heads against the wall, let''s do our best to help the next generation, not showing them the consequences of a dui, but by showing them what alcohol is, and what it does to you, and weather they can control consuming it or not, And how easy it is to get. Some schools lack in this department. It's advertised everywhere, and you can call and order it to your door before you head out behind the wheel. (Don't do that) Don''t worry I will educate my family on illegal substances as well. Without a doubt.  
 
The legal innocent drug "alcohol". It''s the only one that makes the news that cause accidents and fatalities involving motor vehicle.  
 
Edited by Dscanada, 2018-02-06 12:40:39

Rowdy said "These things are garbage. They go off if you wear certain types of cologne use hand sanitizer they go off if you use your windshield washer fluid. They quit using them in Alberta because there was so many faults with them but not here. It is funny that you cant talk on your phone while driving but if the alarm goes off while you are driving you have to pick it up and blow in it while driving.   Our son had an impaired driving charge these things wreak havoc on the electrical system of your vehicle shut your vehicle down if you don't blow at certain times and you have to hum while blowing into it. We had the tech at speedy check his out because it was saying there was alcohol detected from using the windshield washer fluid he called MPi directly and told them it was malfunctioning that it was the washer fluid they made him pay for an extended 6 months even though there was no alcohol involved. One time he had to blow into it while driving to work the machine malfunctioned and he couldn't start his car so he called his boss to see if he could get picked up from where his vehicle shut down because he didn't re blow into it in the allotted time limit it sent a message to MPI said he had failed to enable it in the required time again they added two months even though the installer called in I was there when he called mpi and told them it is faulty It was a complete joke and MPI are just money hungry thieves People make mistakes that's why they are called mistakes "

I have heard this from people that the old device had alot of problems and false reading. They have changed the system in the last couple years and improved it alot, like anything it takes time to get it right. There is no way that windshield washer fluid or anything will set off the device. It actually even shows them your blood alcohol count if you fail.If he didnt blow into it in time it would be a missed test not a fail. And if you did have a fail it gives 5 minutes then you just try again so if you werent actually impaired just blow again and youll be ok. also it cannot actually shut down your vehicle it just sets off the alarm which ive had happen, very annoying and embarrassing but I still made it to work. I have had the device for a year and it really hasnt been a problem at all if you keep it in room temperature for the most part. it sure beats not driving. I am not defending smart start it is definately a money grab, but at the same time it does stop people from drinking and driving.