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I sit undecided this morning as who to vote for. The word deficit by the right and some left parties are thrown around like Candy. Other than Paul Martins Liberals to have a decent plan when we hit surplus to spend in thirds.  
Savings,debt paydown and some new spending Now , it as been a zero priority to spend less in taxes and revenues that our economy generates. Please give me a party that after debt servicing does that? When we keep run deficits while just paying the minimum due on our debt(credit cards?) The end game is set. All Parties have decent spending priorities on most of their spending ideas. Not how this fit in total government spending.. The purse is bottomless. It does surprise myself it seems the conservatives have joined them. My self I would have left our revenue side alone. PST etc. Until our books were balanced .  
 
No The PC's are just the same as the others .Piecemeal directionless spending on needs not costed or thought through. Going to be a tough choice to today and I think less in the Federal mess.  
 
Edited by Doug, 2019-09-10 11:27:46

I hear what you're saying.  
 
Keeping in mind, that if you find the choices unacceptable, you have the option of voting "none of the above". In Manitoba, you can decline your ballot, which is counted as valid (vs. spoiling, which is invalid) but without selecting a candidate. You simply write "declined" on the ballot and submit as usual. Generally, instructions will be posted somewhere at your polling site.  
 
Lots of people don't vote because they don't know who to vote for, such as you, or don't like the choices presented. In the end, a lot of those people don't vote. People showing up to decline their ballot sends a very different message than not voting, which is often interpreted as voter apathy.  
 
I'm not a big believer in hold-your-nose-and-vote (although I have done it once), so if you truly can't fathom voting for any of the candidates/parties, maybe voting "none of the above" is a viable option for you.

In my opinion Pallister has hurt the economy and I would be afraid of him selling off the MLCC, Manitoba Hydro and MPI.  
An example: for cheaper pres:criptions he sold the personal care home contract to a big company based out of Ontario. This hurts small town pharmacies which the wages that they pay to their staff mostly stay in the community.  
Trying to pass a bill thru to freeze wages. Again CPI at the end of July was 2.2%, rent is going up, carbon tax, groceries, etc., etc., so again there will be less spending when your wages don't keep up or you cut the extras out (again spending locally gets minimized) and donations may get cut.  
Taking away school taxes on property will only help the rich who with bigger property tax bills will get more than the $700 off their tax bill. What about people that rent? Well they won't be getting that credit anymore either.  
I made a mistake 3 years ago, and I sure don't trust him now.

I do agree that all sides rely heavily on spending to try and achieve their goals. Where I disagree, however, is that I don't think either side is as directionless as may sometimes appear. Both sides are trying to stimulate the economy but the solutions are polar opposites. The right believes in trickle down economics and the left wants bottom up economics.  
 
The difference I am seeing is that the right is trying to moderate social program spending while still maintaining social programs to some degree. The left is trying to lift everyone up with the wealthy paying the bill. The world has shown us evidence of both approaches working to some degree but absolutely no evidence that one approach works in all scenarios.  
 
My 2 biggest concerns are that there are some on the left edging closer and closer to Communism and Socialism and, the leftist elites seem oblivious to the fact that they are living the very life they seem to be railing against.

I don’t care which political ideology you wrap yourself in, government has to realize that they should share a common link with the population. The common link is that as individuals we have to show a certain amount of fiscal restraint, and government should have to do the same.  
I made a decision not to mention certain things until the voting was done, so maybe now is the time to speak my mind.  
Promises made about 20 new schools sort of irks me when I think of a delegation from down in the Pierson, Waskada and Melita area, that came before our council asking for support for keeping schools in the area. A area like that, or any rural area, that loses their school is doomed, same as losing police, hospital, or Ambulance service and attendees.  
The Conservatives are supposed to be business oriented, which mean that economics of scale could be a part of abandoning small rural areas, but this is a democracy and sometimes those wonderful ideas of economics really don’t matter.  
Now for a swipe at the NDP. This party has forgotten its roots, and has become far to labor and special interest oriented. I hear talk of brotherhood or sisterhood when unions talk, and yet when the financial screws get put to something, I find how seniority take precedent over brotherhood and sisterhood, keeping all the highest paid positions sometimes is the final nail in the coffin.  
In a way I don't blame politicians, if a government falls out of favour, politicians are gone, but those who were given directives continue on, and carrying on under a new government something creates a continuous problem.  
Hope some of this makes sense because I’m very frustrated about how governments are so unconnected to the real population.

Good points. All posts have some. Terms and term limits make sense but not in a lot of government departments as far as over seers. Take Pharma care. From Start (idea) to end how many Federal Governments will be involved. From proper planning on little partisan politics should be on. The we get the Provinces. The few groups that are consistently there are unions and the represent consistantcy the worst of Partisanship in many cases. The me generation may not be union members but as groups they are narrow in their interests like some provinces.  
I was surprised the Libs did not do better. In the end in this election I hope our economy ticks books look better and health care issues get ironed out.  
 
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