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LH
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LH
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Brandon Covid Hot spot
8/20/2020 at 9:06 AM

Why don't they tell us where the majority of the outbreaks are located in Brandon Area ? So that we can try to avoid those locations.
sammy
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sammy
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8/20/2020 at 9:33 AM

It’s not the location you have to worry about. It’s the people. Brandon is small and people move around, thus potentially “infecting” many places.

Wear a mask, wash your hands, social distance, go out only if you have to
1wrangler3
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1wrangler3
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8/20/2020 at 9:38 AM

Lol what; you want a list of addresses so you can cross the street instead of walking in front of their home? Don’t be ridiculous.

Assume it’s everywhere and act as such. When there are potential exposures we are told which businesses etc.
Adam

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Adam
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Location
8/20/2020 at 9:39 AM

Totally understand the want to know as much as possible, but have to be careful with that question.
The location is Brandon, the response, habits and choices should be the same wherever you go.
The only locations you’ll learn are businesses on specific dates and times where there was a Covid-positive staff member or customer who may have had contacts with the public that the Province’s contact tracing won’t have been able to reach. In those cases generally you’ll see the business follow public health advice, isolate effected staff and close contacts of theirs such as fellow employees in the same shift, clean and sometimes temporarily close while they address that cleaning or other staffing challenges as a result... then open back up.
Province posts a list of these with specific dates and times if you happened to attend to the business or location. Some businesses are also voluntarily disclosing cases they’ve had and measures they’ve taken and should be commended for transparency when its there.
Even then, contact tracing and case disclosures are going to lag the actual virus by at least a few days since it takes time for someone to get the virus, get tested for the virus, get the positive result, for contact tracing to take place and then for the disclosure on date/time/location. We had one new potential exposure disclosure this week that was about two weeks after-the-fact. A big reason why you'll see them return to preaching the fundamentals while going about day-to-day life... physical distance, wash hands, wear a mask where physical distancing isn't possible, stay at home if sick.

The Province has said the new pandemic response system will be able to disclose more information at the local level. Nothing really there at this point but another place to watch.
Abbysmum
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Abbysmum
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your last paragraph
8/20/2020 at 10:28 AM

Adam said "
Totally understand the want to know as much as possible, but have to be careful with that question.
The location is Brandon, the response, habits and choices should be the same wherever you go.
The only locations you’ll learn are businesses on specific dates and times where there was a Covid-positive staff member or customer who may have had contacts with the public that the Province’s contact tracing won’t have been able to reach. In those cases generally you’ll see the business follow public health advice, isolate effected staff and close contacts of theirs such as fellow employees in the same shift, clean and sometimes temporarily close while they address that cleaning or other staffing challenges as a result... then open back up.
Province posts a list of these with specific dates and times if you happened to attend to the business or location. Some businesses are also voluntarily disclosing cases they’ve had and measures they’ve taken and should be commended for transparency when its there.
Even then, contact tracing and case disclosures are going to lag the actual virus by at least a few days since it takes time for someone to get the virus, get tested for the virus, get the positive result, for contact tracing to take place and then for the disclosure on date/time/location. We had one new potential exposure disclosure this week that was about two weeks after-the-fact. A big reason why you'll see them return to preaching the fundamentals while going about day-to-day life... physical distance, wash hands, wear a mask where physical distancing isn't possible, stay at home if sick.

The Province has said the new pandemic response system will be able to disclose more information at the local level. Nothing really there at this point but another place to watch.
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They're already done this by indicating "red" for Bethesda Place personal care home in Steinbach. So they can and will be very specific when needed.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/manitoba-covid-19-response-system-1.5691977
foxtrot11
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foxtrot11
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Yes they can be
8/20/2020 at 11:19 AM

Very specific if needed. I am not sure given the size of the Brandon area it would be very helpful though.

That said, here in the metro Vancouver area, officials have gone from being extremely generic - in fact only telling us which health region an outbreak was found in. This was absolutely useless to us given the size and quantity of residents of any given area. Officials claimed they did not want to hamper any businesses' chances of success during this pandemic. It was feared people would avoid places if they were mentioned.

Recently however, they have started to release exact restaurants or addresses of parties so that anyone who may have been there can watch for symptoms. It does not appear to be having the feared effect and helps people be aware. You simply do not know who is being careful and who is not - until everyone begins to be more careful and wear masks/use hand washing etc, we can still safely assume everyone may be infected.

My daughter and I went to Costco last night, and while for the most part our Costco has been excellent for providing multiple stations to clean your hands, and having people monitoring each aisle and cleaning very regularly - you just do not know. We witnessed an man, about 60ish, sneeze right into his hand, continue to push his cart, then open a freezer door. We were so disgusted that there can be such oblivious behavior after all we have heard. Another customer beat me to it, but I was going to speak to the man about his actions. What we did do though was find the nearest staff and they quickly wiped down that entire bank of freezer doors.
Loudmouth
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Loudmouth
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That's helpful
8/20/2020 at 2:50 PM

foxtrot11 said "Very specific if needed. I am not sure given the size of the Brandon area it would be very helpful though.

That said, here in the metro Vancouver area, officials have gone from being extremely generic - in fact only telling us which health region an outbreak was found in. This was absolutely useless to us given the size and quantity of residents of any given area. Officials claimed they did not want to hamper any businesses' chances of success during this pandemic. It was feared people would avoid places if they were mentioned.

Recently however, they have started to release exact restaurants or addresses of parties so that anyone who may have been there can watch for symptoms. It does not appear to be having the feared effect and helps people be aware. You simply do not know who is being careful and who is not - until everyone begins to be more careful and wear masks/use hand washing etc, we can still safely assume everyone may be infected.

My daughter and I went to Costco last night, and while for the most part our Costco has been excellent for providing multiple stations to clean your hands, and having people monitoring each aisle and cleaning very regularly - you just do not know. We witnessed an man, about 60ish, sneeze right into his hand, continue to push his cart, then open a freezer door. We were so disgusted that there can be such oblivious behavior after all we have heard. Another customer beat me to it, but I was going to speak to the man about his actions. What we did do though was find the nearest staff and they quickly wiped down that entire bank of freezer doors. "
Good for specifically identifying locations!!

Some people just don't get it. Hand sneeze and carry on!!!!????
Thank you for pointing out to store staff what had occurred!
foxtrot11
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foxtrot11
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I agree
8/20/2020 at 4:08 PM

Loudmouth said "Good for specifically identifying locations!!

Some people just don't get it. Hand sneeze and carry on!!!!????
Thank you for pointing out to store staff what had occurred! "
It is not about shaming the business, it is about making people in that community aware that they may have been in contact and to heighten their awareness in the future.

The system is not perfect though, apparently one restaurant in Port Coquitlam was NOT notified that multiple customers had been found to be positive after one busy weekend, and they were not told until they found out on the news. The owner was a bit angry, because his staff was apparently at risk, and over a week went by that he could have closed and cleaned, he has no way of knowing if his business infected others in that week.

Here in Vancouver though, there has been a lot of good will to smaller businesses, especially locally owned. So if a business is affected and is shut down, communities seem to rally when they re-open to support them. It's nice to see.
PG13
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PG13
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The problem
8/20/2020 at 5:03 PM

Is the people that have it are ignoring protocols probably.
Home Slice
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Home Slice
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Covid Rising.
8/20/2020 at 5:47 PM

PG13 said "Is the people that have it are ignoring protocols probably. "
I agree with what one of the posters said to a degree. The people who have it are not following protocol which means some of the innocent will suffer the consequences. I didn’t like putting a mask on at all but finally did so to help the overall cause of trying to fight this thing. It’s uncomfortable, at times hot, sometimes even seems confusing trying to shop with it on but it’s a whole lot better than dying or killing some one else or even worse if you gave it to your own family. My rough count is about 70 percent of the people I see in stores are now wearing a mask. I can’t get it from you if I’m wearing a mask and I can’t give it to you either. So really why not jump on the bandwagon or do you not care about the risk and stopping this freight train!
Besca
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Besca
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Photo Added to discussion
8/20/2020 at 5:58 PM

Please feel free to share the photo added to discussion to those who you feel may learn / listen better through visual description :-)
cheeseburgermonster
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cheeseburgermonster
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One
8/20/2020 at 11:55 PM

thing I will ask is that people who don't distance at all and who sneeze in their hands or think they won't get the virus,or whatever it is that makes you think you don't need to follow the rules so to speak, I am asking you to smarten up and think of others. There are a few of us who can't wear masks and who distance and wash our hands and sanitize at stores and I'm very happy things have opened up and we aren't in lockdown and can enjoy what short summer we have. But don't think you are above others because you aren't. And with flu/cold season coming up it might be tougher and I dont want to see us get locked down and shut down again, because there's alot of us in this world who maybe wont admit it, but we won't be able to handle another lockdown, be it emotionally,financially or whatever. We aren't meant to be locked up....And for those who are symptomatic and are going out and not self isolating on purpose "oh I'll just run in to grab a couple of things and make it quick" or going out to mingle with friends, this mesage is for you too..It's people who are inconsiderate and selfish who are now making things tougher for us who are trying. Now masks are mandatory. What's next? I can't mention the stores but some aren't even cleaning the interact machines after each customer. Please if you have to sneeze turn away or walk away from people and cover your mouth with your shirt and then disinfect your hands before you go back to your shopping, it's not hard to carry a little bottle of sanitizer with you when you go out. We are supposed to be one of the smartest species on earh so why are we acting the most selfish and stupidist?

Edited by cheeseburgermonster, 2020-08-21 00:05:37
Gammy
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Gammy
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Enforcement
8/21/2020 at 7:52 AM

Who is responsible for enforcing the rules when some people are non-compliant? Do I call city police if I see, or am aware of, a large gathering somewhere? Knowing this information would make it possible for all of us to step up and monitor the situation better.