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Flutterby said "If you budget for a certain amount, only drive that amount in the time you have. If it was $40 put into the tank and he only wanted $20...only use half of this $40 of fuel. This way you do not have to budget for double.     It is a pretty simple solution. "

i don't think they were meaning that this would double the amount of gas, and have to get more, but how it will affect how much they will have to pay next time. I get what you mean, and that would work if it was just double the amount, but this sounds like it was triple (it says $40 overage meaning they got $60 in total). If they budget to spend $20 on gas every payday, and there was an overage of $40, that would be 2-payday budgets. So they will have to budget double next time. So let's say friday, they get paid and we're going to get $20 gas, now they have to go pay the $40 overage. The following pay they would be okay, and not have to pay for gas and would have the $20 bonus in budget (as they got the $60 originally). But for some families having to pay up front and affect one budget is a big deal.  
I would definitely pay the gas station, but I would pay it according to my budget, which means I would then give them the budgeted $20 each pay, and not the $40 altogether if it affected my budget too negatively. If I could afford it all on the one payday, then I would do that and get it out of the way.  
 
 
 
 
 
Edited by Cheezies, 2016-04-13 09:56:55

Degenerate108 said "    xanthe100 said "    Degenerate108 said "I would have asked to talk to the manager. Personally I don't like the "you're going to use it anyways" reasoning and here's why. People who budget may in fact "use it eventually" but that doesn't mean they can afford it right now. I fill my van once a week, sometimes I need to put an extra $20 in it but only rarely. Now I set up a budget for our income, there's so much for gas and so much for food and bills etc. If I went to a station and asked for $20 dollars in gas that's all I want and to be honest that might be all I have at the moment. We don't live extravagantly by any means and the only reason why we:d even think about putting extra in the tank would legitimately be able to get to and from work. Overfilling should fall back to the station and it's employees AND their training. At no point should a consumer be on the hook for an error caused by a business and it's employees. To me that's just bad business practice.   If hydro or Autopac or MTS or Westman sent you a bill for double what you pay and demanded you pay it because "You're going to use it anyways" would it still be acceptable? I would venture to say no it wouldn't.     Edited by Degenerate108, 2016-04-12 22:51:53" Think anyone is saying you should pay for it right there and then. Most are saying go back when you would normally put in more gas and pay for it the. That's fair. Everybody wins. " Okay so hypothetically would that be okay anywhere else? Honest answers here are you alright with people spending your money for you? Would you feel okay going into a grocery store and having the cashier ring your things through only to find out that instead of one loaf of bread and three apples you've paid for seven loaves and three pineapples four pounds of grapes and a bag of apples but it's okay because you're going to eat right?   Autopac renews your license and they charge your four years upfront by mistake but it's cool because I mean you're planning on driving right no harm no foul there.   Explain to me why this should be the one that gets the free pass. "

That's a silly comparison. If the teller rings in too many groceries and you didn't receive them, get a refund. You didn't get the groceries in the first place. If you have the groceries, return them. They're not sitting in your gas tank. Why be a jerk and say too bad, I can't give the gas back? Those of us that think you should pay for the gas are suggesting you go back and pay for the extra gas when you've used up the twent bucks worth that you asked them for. Everyone makes mistakes. You have no idea what life issues that gas jockey or business owner are dealing with that may be distracting them. Act like a human being and work out something fair. It might be different if it kept happening repeatedly at the same business.

Cheezies said "    Flutterby said "If you budget for a certain amount, only drive that amount in the time you have. If it was $40 put into the tank and he only wanted $20...only use half of this $40 of fuel. This way you do not have to budget for double.     It is a pretty simple solution. " i don't think they were meaning that this would double the amount of gas, and have to get more, but how it will affect how much they will have to pay next time. I get what you mean, and that would work if it was just double the amount, but this sounds like it was triple (it says $40 overage meaning they got $60 in total). If they budget to spend $20 on gas every payday, and there was an overage of $40, that would be 2-payday budgets. So they will have to budget double next time. So let's say friday, they get paid and we're going to get $20 gas, now they have to go pay the $40 overage. The following pay they would be okay, and not have to pay for gas and would have the $20 bonus in budget (as they got the $60 originally). But for some families having to pay up front and affect one budget is a big deal.   I would definitely pay the gas station, but I would pay it according to my budget, which means I would then give them the budgeted $20 each pay, and not the $40 altogether if it affected my budget too negatively. If I could afford it all on the one payday, then I would do that and get it out of the way.             Edited by Cheezies, 2016-04-13 09:56:55"

$20 now, $20 next payday and $20 the following payday. You have enough gas for three pay periods then pay it in three paycheques. Can't imagine the station owner is going to quibble over that when you come back on the next payday and tell them $20 is all you can pay until the next payday.

xanthe100 said "    Cheezies said "    Flutterby said "If you budget for a certain amount, only drive that amount in the time you have. If it was $40 put into the tank and he only wanted $20...only use half of this $40 of fuel. This way you do not have to budget for double.     It is a pretty simple solution. " i don't think they were meaning that this would double the amount of gas, and have to get more, but how it will affect how much they will have to pay next time. I get what you mean, and that would work if it was just double the amount, but this sounds like it was triple (it says $40 overage meaning they got $60 in total). If they budget to spend $20 on gas every payday, and there was an overage of $40, that would be 2-payday budgets. So they will have to budget double next time. So let's say friday, they get paid and we're going to get $20 gas, now they have to go pay the $40 overage. The following pay they would be okay, and not have to pay for gas and would have the $20 bonus in budget (as they got the $60 originally). But for some families having to pay up front and affect one budget is a big deal.   I would definitely pay the gas station, but I would pay it according to my budget, which means I would then give them the budgeted $20 each pay, and not the $40 altogether if it affected my budget too negatively. If I could afford it all on the one payday, then I would do that and get it out of the way.             Edited by Cheezies, 2016-04-13 09:56:55" $20 now, $20 next payday and $20 the following payday. You have enough gas for three pay periods then pay it in three paycheques. Can't imagine the station owner is going to quibble over that when you come back on the next payday and tell them $20 is all you can pay until the next payday. "

That's what it says in the last paragraph. Give them the budgeted amount each pay or if budget allowed then pay all at once.

I agree that is no comparison. No harm no foul asking for a refund if you are charged for something you did not get in the grocery store. you do not have the item, you will never have the item-so you should not pay for the item. if you accidently have 2 items in your cart and you pay for both-then realize you planned to have only one-you hand one back and get your money back-you do not keep both and say you should only pay for one. Since gas is a little more difficult to return, when the station owner agrees you can pay later for the extra that was put into your tank in error...why would anyone think that gas shouldn't be paid for. If you don't want to pay for that gas then say so-and return the product-siphon it out of your tank and give it back.

I don't mean for this to come across as rude but maybe you're spouse should take some responsibility in this too. If he asked for $20 but received $60, did he not wonder why it was taking longer to pump? I keep an eye on the pump as I don't always have the extra money to cover the overage, should it ever happen. Also, lesson learned for him to make sure the gas attendant repeats the dollar amount back.  
 
The budgeting shouldn't be a problem. Either ask to pay in 2 instalments of $20 or pay the $40 and than have a week off of paying. In the long run, it all works out to the same.

Dream said "I don't mean for this to come across as rude but maybe you're spouse should take some responsibility in this too. If he asked for $20 but received $60, did he not wonder why it was taking longer to pump? I keep an eye on the pump as I don't always have the extra money to cover the overage, should it ever happen. Also, lesson learned for him to make sure the gas attendant repeats the dollar amount back.     The budgeting shouldn't be a problem. Either ask to pay in 2 instalments of $20 or pay the $40 and than have a week off of paying. In the long run, it all works out to the same. "

gas prices go down. But then again you dont have a choice because the gas attendant made it for you.

Tamara79 said "    Dream said "I don't mean for this to come across as rude but maybe you're spouse should take some responsibility in this too. If he asked for $20 but received $60, did he not wonder why it was taking longer to pump? I keep an eye on the pump as I don't always have the extra money to cover the overage, should it ever happen. Also, lesson learned for him to make sure the gas attendant repeats the dollar amount back.     The budgeting shouldn't be a problem. Either ask to pay in 2 instalments of $20 or pay the $40 and than have a week off of paying. In the long run, it all works out to the same. " gas prices go down. But then again you dont have a choice because the gas attendant made it for you. "

However, I doubt it will go down that much to make a significant difference, haha

If you get more than you paid for, then it is dishonest to keep it or not attempt to return the product.  
 
Some people may take it as an opportunity or windfall, and feel they are entitled because it is someone else's fault - these are the same people who would be happy if a cashier forgot to ring in something in their cart. If you would be wiling to pay out of pocket for your own mistake then I guess that is fair enough. But I am guessing those people would not say 'oh, that's okay! My mistake! You keep the rest!' if they accidentally overpaid for something.

I paid for the amount I asked because it was all I had, the attendant said my mistake , and nothing else happened, they didn't ask me to come back so I didn't, when McDonald's makes a mistake they give you item for free, superstore & Walmart also give you discounts when it's their mistake, I know oil industry is slow but passing the blame/cost onto the employee and the customer when the company can afford to accept the very small loss, a tank is $70 so minus I'm guessing 10 or 20? They out 50 or60 $

For the most part, regardless of the banner any particular station is flying, any service station is "owned" by an individual in the community with a hefty investment just to scratch out a living. They get paid on a commission. It does not matter if gas is 5 dollars a liter or .05 cents a liter. their commission stays the same. Usually about 2.5 cents per liter sold. On top of that, the oil companies want a percentage of sales sold in store just like any franchise. For arguments sake let's say there are 2 pump attendants and one inside cashier on duty at minimum wage. I haven't done the math and I won't but how many liters of fuel does the station have to sell per hour just to break even on wages, not to mention all other associated costs? If you fully understood how the service stations worked you may come away with a very different perspective. To compare them with wal-mart and superstore are two very different things. If a service station "owner" comes away with an income of 40k per year while having to work 50-70 hours per week, that is considered good!They have it no easier than anyone else, and I dare say worse  

When I drove through Detroit about 20 years ago, you could not get gas until you paid first.  
 
You people out there who are at war with everyone and will rip off  
anyone you are dealing with, this situation will evolve.  
 
You want to take advantage of someone's error? You will pay somewhere else.

bottom line is if you take goods for sale and do not pay for them then you are STEALING, so pay up and set your kids a good example

And sounds like lady wanted 20$ and they pushed the button for 20$. and it must screwed up and filled her car with 60$. so they said it was system error and charges her 20$

Elmer said "When I drove through Detroit about 20 years ago, you could not get gas until you paid first.     You people out there who are at war with everyone and will rip off   anyone you are dealing with, this situation will evolve.     You want to take advantage of someone's error? You will pay somewhere else. "

Sure, it would suck to have to pay more than you budgeted for, the company was good in making a payment plan - they really did not have to. I cannot believe anyone would consider not paying for it.  
 
Too many people these days are out for themselves and don't care who it hurts down the line.  
 
My dentist office called me yesterday saying I owed them over a hundred and thirty bucks for a cleaning because even though I asked them to make sure it was within my coverage first, they must not have and it came back declined. I have made them well aware I will not be doing any work unless it is covered by my piddly insurance policy, but they screwed up and now I owe them.  
 
Should I expect them to take that hit for their mistake? No. Do I have that extra cash to pay them this week? No. So I made a payment plan because it is the right thing to do. And one of these days, karma better damn well wake up and notice I am a good honest person....

Honestly, just pay for it. It will be used, not wasted. We all make mistakes.

This is why I will get the attendant to my car window. Tell him to put in 20.00 and hand him the 20.00 bill. This way there is no misunderstanding. I you over pump then its on you..  
 
I used to pump gas, I never over pumped but my boss did haha. He was too busy talking to the guy and stopped paying attention, the customer offered to pay but my manager wouldn't accept it. He said it was his mistake and he'd cover the overage.