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People in this city have no idea. Today I seen 3 occasions where people got to the cross walk and the walk sign was on they continued to cross the street. All 3 times the pedestrian was about 2 to 3 strides the signal changed to don't walk. All 3 times the person was still in the intersection when the light turned green. 2 of these people were on the phone one talking the other texting. Other times today I noticed a lot of people walking and talking on the phone or texting. Lots crossing the street at cross walks some just jaywalking. Most times in this town people complain about the drivers but really pedestrians in this town need to pay attention.

It''s kind of a shame when the drivers are turning left when they have the turning light like park and 18th or Victoria and 18th when only 3-4 can get through safety so A few go through and the one idiot decided to go AFTER the turn light is now gone after they see another car turning on the orange turning light and almost hit me as I'm trying to cross the street with MY green light when they had no right in even going. Oh it's also so much fun when your walking down park and 18th walking towards Dairy Queen direction and a car that's turning almost hits you from behind because they try to rush it when you have the green light with the walk signal. It's the drivers that need to be more careful! There are some walking lights that turn to the red walking hands pretty much as soon as you step foot out to cross. They are just quick lights. Either way the pedestrian is still legally walking on a green light and drivers need to be waaaay more careful. It's also quite funny when your biking and you dismount off your bike press the cross walk button to cross and vehicles that have a lot of time to stop just zoom bye like they don't see you. Cars are definitely a lot more aggressive then pedestrians. Oh and I love it when your walking on the sidewalks and vehicles that are pulling out of store parking lots try to drive ahead of you and block the walking path just because they want to get ahead of you. It's even worse when they start yelling and cursing at you when they almost hit you yet they are the ones turning and should be waiting for us to cross. Drivers need to be more careful! Not the other way around.  
 
You also said they were 2-3 strides before the light said don''t want so they were still crossing before it said don''t walk. So really it''s no worse than a vehicle who ALWAYS seem to run that orange light way after it turns orange and is red by time they get through that light, or when they turn AFTER the turning light turns orange after another car has passed and they should stop. Because once that green light is green the pedestrian should be able to cross without fear that idiot driver will run their red light just to get across and hit me or completely cut me off. So it really is the drivers that need to pay more attention.  
 
Edited by Tracy16, 2016-08-11 20:15:04

I have been walking quite a bit lately and my experience with drivers has been 50-50 when it comes to courtesy at crosswalks. Two times in one day I ran into a-holes though.  
 
1 - At 9th and Louise. I was already in the crosswalk on the east side going north to south. A red car was at the stop sign on Louise going east. He gunned it and came close to hitting me while I crossed. I guess he was in too much of a hurry to yield right of way or care about whether he struck me with his car or not.  
 
2 - About 10 minutes later - I was crossing Van Horne at 10th St - again on the east side travelling south. As before, a car going west to east - at a stop sign gunned it and came towards me. This time I stopped walking and made him stop.... his girlfriend said something to him while he sat on 10th St not moving.  
 
I was beginning to think I had a target on my back.

I've seen too many people crossing the street without looking and having the face in their cell phones. It seems worse lately with the Pokemon going on. Pedestrians aren't exactly off the hook.  
 
Both pedestrians and drivers just need to use common sense and beware of their surroundings.

Tracy16 said "It''s kind of a shame when the drivers are turning left when they have the turning light like park and 18th or Victoria and 18th when only 3-4 can get through safety so A few go through and the one idiot decided to go AFTER the turn light is now gone after they see another car turning on the orange turning light and almost hit me as I'm trying to cross the street with MY green light when they had no right in even going. Oh it's also so much fun when your walking down park and 18th walking towards Dairy Queen direction and a car that's turning almost hits you from behind because they try to rush it when you have the green light with the walk signal. It's the drivers that need to be more careful! There are some walking lights that turn to the red walking hands pretty much as soon as you step foot out to cross. They are just quick lights. Either way the pedestrian is still legally walking on a green light and drivers need to be waaaay more careful. It's also quite funny when your biking and you dismount off your bike press the cross walk button to cross and vehicles that have a lot of time to stop just zoom bye like they don't see you. Cars are definitely a lot more aggressive then pedestrians. Oh and I love it when your walking on the sidewalks and vehicles that are pulling out of store parking lots try to drive ahead of you and block the walking path just because they want to get ahead of you. It's even worse when they start yelling and cursing at you when they almost hit you yet they are the ones turning and should be waiting for us to cross. Drivers need to be more careful! Not the other way around.     You also said they were 2-3 strides before the light said don''t want so they were still crossing before it said don''t walk. So really it''s no worse than a vehicle who ALWAYS seem to run that orange light way after it turns orange and is red by time they get through that light, or when they turn AFTER the turning light turns orange after another car has passed and they should stop. Because once that green light is green the pedestrian should be able to cross without fear that idiot driver will run their red light just to get across and hit me or completely cut me off. So it really is the drivers that need to pay more attention.     Edited by Tracy16, 2016-08-11 20:15:04"

The do not walk sign kicks in for pedestrians for a reason.  
 
The average person may cross before the cross traffic kicks in but not for people in wheel chairs dads or moms with kiddies etc.  
 
It does apply to all. Running a stale green that turns in to amber is wrong but no pedestrian should cross until the coast is clear  
Same as the driver. Yet the car is clear and gone. Some pedestrians walk into this version of Amber and do not or maybe can not high tail it across.  
 
Some just saunter I think.  
 
Last many pedestrians think the green light for cars means it is green for them. Nope. The walk no walk sign is meant for them when they have them. Good post.

Doug, are you saying that if the light is green and about to turn yellow (not red, yellow) then a driver should be stopping? How is going through a green light EVER wrong? The whole point of a yellow light is to give you time to clear the intersection before the cross traffic gets their green light. Slowing down when the light is still green is how accidents happen because the people behind you are not expecting you to be stopping at a green light.  
 
Also, at any intersection, no matter what the car is doing, going straight or turning, the pedestrian ALWAYS has the right of way so long as they are observing the pedestrian signals. This goes for intersections with or without lights and marked or unmarked crosswalks. It is only a common courtesy for a pedestrian to "high tail" it across the road, they are not obligated to do so. On the other side of the coin, a person cannot unnecessarily obstruct traffic but unless they stop to tie their shoe in the middle of the road, what constitutes an unnecessary delay?  
 
The do not walk portion of a pedestrian signal is the equivalent of a yellow for a vehicle. If the person enters the light when the little man is walking, even if two steps in it turns to a do not walk, and even if halfway across the road the light turns red, they have every right to finish crossing before any vehicle proceeds into the intersection.  
 
To keep this response from getting too long, I will only reference the subsections of the Highway Traffic Act that cover what I have said here. However, I encourage you and everyone else to read it. You will find it here: http://web2.gov.mb.ca/laws/statutes/ccsm/h060_2ei.php  
 
88(3)(b)  
88(5)(b)(ii)(A) and (B)  
88(7)  
139(1)  
 
Section 88 covers anything to do with a vehicle or pedestrian at an intersection with a traffic signal.  
Sections 138-144 covers anything to do with a pedestrian outside of an intersection with a traffic signal.

Court of eBrandon has made it clear on another thread regarding pedestrians and crosswalks. All pedestrians have the right of way, "always". So, if you're driving and see a pedestrian anywhere near a corner and stopped, then as a driver you're to stop and allow them to cross and some of the "couch lawyers" in the decision making think that this extends to even at marked crosswalks when the lights aren't flashing or the "hand" is lit! Pedestrians always are in "right" and drivers are always "wrong".  
A little bit of sarcasm, lol! Really though, some people posting here have that mindset. Pedestrian safety definately starts with pedestrians being aware of where they are and what's around them. At unmarked crosswalks, pedestrians must put out their arm to show intent to cross before stepping out. Unfortunately though, my experience is that pedestrians rarely follow this procedure before stepping out from the curve. At traffic lights intersections, the poster is right. Pedestrians seem oblivious to where they are and what's around them, practically daring cars to hit them as " a pedestrian" always has the right of way! This mindset is dangerous and irresponsible. Drivers obviously have responsibilities to pedestrians, but it's really up to the pedestrian to double check for their own safety. I know I do when I'm a pedestrian!

I was always taught if you are not at the crosswalk light when it turns to walk you wait for the next one. Yes pedestrians have the right of way how good is that if your dead from being run over. You can put on your headstone I had the right of way. Don't be stupid no pedestrian wins against a car. Look both ways cross when it is safe. Get off your phone. Walking takes as much concentration as driving. If your riding a bike walk it across introductions again cars win Everytime being right and dead is not a win.

You can be RIGHT but you can also be DEAD RIGHT! PAY ATTENTION - whether you are walking or driving!