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I bet if we came into your home we could nit pick it apart as well. Do you think the 22 dollar ticket price goes very far after you consider ice rentals. Equipment costs. Travel costs for the team. The bwk have one of the lowest ticket prices in the WHL would you rather pay 27 dollars a ticket for your upgrades to happen?

Do they not work at all, or they just don't meet your standards? I've only missed about 3 games this year, and don't even really know what you are talking about. I guess I'm more concerned with the game than the lights.

agree with Robert. Moving lights were placed for the memorial cup year, 2 at each end and some in the middle. They are to project the Wheat King Logo. Right now only one works. Get them all working or not at all!  
This is no different then a chandelier in your home, would you only put in one bulb if it required 6?  
 
If you are going to have something do it right or not at all. It has been like this since pre seasons game. Plenty of time to change a few bulbs!  

Lots of the items they put in for the memorial cup are falling apart. The screens have puck damaged that has not been fixed since last season. The goal lights are an embarrassment. I seem to remember them having fog coming out of the scoreboard at one point but I think that was done as soon as they ran out of the solution. The brand new speaker system was never properly calibrated so they still sound like crap. I found it funny they added that new entrance for the Wheat Kings but never fixed any of their other items....

Robert isn't asking for much here by any means. Not sure why people are making a big deal out of getting a couple new goal lights and projections fixed. Not asking for an entire new rink... which will definitely be in the cards within the next 10-20 years I would think.

Other than a few LED's not working, everything else is fine on the videoscreen. When the puck did hit the screen and damaging one of the LED boards, it's been replaced. The goal lights, they are the same age as the scoreclock and made by the same company.  
 
I've been to every Wheat King game this year and don't see any problems with the goal lights. They did have to replace one during the game because it was malfunctioning. Those lights just hang on the glass and are removed when there is no game.  
 
I've never paid much attention to the the moving projection lights and makes no difference to me if it has the logo or not.  
 
The fog machines were removed. It got too foggy and caused health issues for some. The fog machines have been gone for a number of years now.  
 
And the big thing, has any ever contacted the Wheat Kings or the Keystone Centre about these issues? Or did you come running here in hopes that someone on here will do something.  
 
 
 
Edited by Trevor B, 2015-12-18 17:03:00

While fixing little issues! Move the speakers slightly at the south end so that the netting can go up another two feet to the top of the glass. Or roll up the top so that it lines up with the top off the glass. Wasted two feet of overlap and unnecessary to look through both glass and mesh.

Herbs said "While fixing little issues! Move the speakers slightly at the south end so that the netting can go up another two feet to the top of the glass. Or roll up the top so that it lines up with the top off the glass. Wasted two feet of overlap and unnecessary to look through both glass and mesh. "

the mesh is like that intentionally.  
 
But again, if you have an issue, contact the Keystone Centre. Posting on here won't do anything.

Trevor B said "Other than a few LED's not working, everything else is fine on the videoscreen. When the puck did hit the screen and damaging one of the LED boards, it's been replaced. The goal lights, they are the same age as the scoreclock and made by the same company.     I've been to every Wheat King game this year and don't see any problems with the goal lights. They did have to replace one during the game because it was malfunctioning. Those lights just hang on the glass and are removed when there is no game.     I've never paid much attention to the the moving projection lights and makes no difference to me if it has the logo or not.     The fog machines were removed. It got too foggy and caused health issues for some. The fog machines have been gone for a number of years now.     And the big thing, has any ever contacted the Wheat Kings or the Keystone Centre about these issues? Or did you come running here in hopes that someone on here will do something.         Edited by Trevor B, 2015-12-18 17:03:00"

Robert said nothing about the fog but if there was once fog why replace one area of fog for a new one upon entering? There was lights under the score clock, where did they go? The score clock was placed around the Memorial cup time. was the goal lights done at the same time? Look the same as they did 40 some years ago!  
This is a public forum and people can discuss their thoughts. Just because you don't agree is no reason for others to not voice a thought to see if other's may agree or disagree. The Wheat king office is on here and if they see others feel the same as Robert , then maybe a push to fix them will happen.  
You always have a comment on everything and are probably defensive because it has something to do with union employee's , the same one you belong to.

think it is the keystone center as the Wheat Kings are just tenants but not 100% sure.

Wheat Kings lease space from Westman Communications Group place.

Farmers Feed the World said "Is it the wheat kings responsibility to fix these things or is it the keystone center? Are they not just tenants? "

who ever is responsibility it is to fix things lets get them fixed

Robert said "    Farmers Feed the World said "Is it the wheat kings responsibility to fix these things or is it the keystone center? Are they not just tenants? " who ever is responsibility it is to fix things lets get them fixed "

NOTHING TO BE FIXED!!!!! The goal lights are the standard lights used all over North America. They are from OES Scoreboards.  
 
http://www.oes-scoreboards.com/oes_product/goal-lights-permanent/  
 
The videoscreens are not damaged. I've seen when pucks hit the videoscreens and cause damage. Usually there's an entire section that goes out with the videoboard hanging off. I've seen it happen on a Friday night game and it fixed for the Saturday game.  
 
If your so concerned about those issues, why not ask the Keystone Centre directly. info@keystonecentre.com  
 
As a season ticket holder, I don't see anything at affects the games or the entertainment.

Trevor B said "    Robert said "    Farmers Feed the World said "Is it the wheat kings responsibility to fix these things or is it the keystone center? Are they not just tenants? " who ever is responsibility it is to fix things lets get them fixed " NOTHING TO BE FIXED!!!!! The goal lights are the standard lights used all over North America. They are from OES Scoreboards.     http://www.oes-scoreboards.com/oes_product/goal-lights-permanent/     The videoscreens are not damaged. I've seen when pucks hit the videoscreens and cause damage. Usually there's an entire section that goes out with the videoboard hanging off. I've seen it happen on a Friday night game and it fixed for the Saturday game.     If your so concerned about those issues, why not ask the Keystone Centre directly. info@keystonecentre.com     As a season ticket holder, I don't see anything at affects the games or the entertainment. "

In a previous post you said there are a few leds that have been hit and do not work so they are damaged.They can not replace leds a whole board has to be replaced and I bet that is not cheap. And the projections lights that they put in for the memorial cup are done and need fixed why fix one ane not fix the other 7 of them?

Robert said "    Trevor B said "    Robert said "    Farmers Feed the World said "Is it the wheat kings responsibility to fix these things or is it the keystone center? Are they not just tenants? " who ever is responsibility it is to fix things lets get them fixed " NOTHING TO BE FIXED!!!!! The goal lights are the standard lights used all over North America. They are from OES Scoreboards.     http://www.oes-scoreboards.com/oes_product/goal-lights-permanent/     The videoscreens are not damaged. I've seen when pucks hit the videoscreens and cause damage. Usually there's an entire section that goes out with the videoboard hanging off. I've seen it happen on a Friday night game and it fixed for the Saturday game.     If your so concerned about those issues, why not ask the Keystone Centre directly. info@keystonecentre.com     As a season ticket holder, I don't see anything at affects the games or the entertainment. " In a previous post you said there are a few leds that have been hit and do not work so they are damaged.They can not replace leds a whole board has to be replaced and I bet that is not cheap. And the projections lights that they put in for the memorial cup are done and need fixed why fix one ane not fix the other 7 of them? "

You apparently have never seen when a puck has damaged the videoboards. I'll attach a photo of what happens when a puck hits the videoboard.  
 
The videoboards that were hit were replaced. All that I see are a few individual LED's that show red when the screen is displaying black.  
 
 

on the scoreboard but original post refers to both the lights underneath the scoreboard which requires plywood to be lifted to change the bulbs and more specifically the projection lights from the rafters at each end of the arena. I do not think he specifically referred to the actual video screens until you went there!

mentioned about puck damage on the screens. 'The screens have puck damaged that has not been fixed since last season.'  
 
So I addressed that. The screens are promptly repaired. I posted a picture of what a puck damaged screen looks like.  
 
The goal lights were installed in 2009 and are the standard lights used in nearly ALL hockey rinks. NHL rinks might have fancier goal lights. I also posted a photo from 2005 showing the old goal lights. Not sure what's meant by them being an embarrassment.  
 
I find the projection lights more than adequate. Not sure how much more light is needed from those lights  
 
Does the loss of a light really affect the experience that much?

 
 
I see the 4 lights on the scoreclock working, 2 in the northend. They don't show the southend, but at last game, pretty sure those lights were working.  
 
And for the goal lights, as long as they light red or green. That's all that's needed. Not sure what a brighter one will accomplish?  
 
 
 
Edited by Trevor B, 2015-12-18 23:49:42

Home opener, working, now nothing.  
Check your vision, I go to every game, only one light properly working on the ends.  
 
What it does Trevor is ENHANCE the experience!  
 
Maintenance of everything is key!

at the next game on the 27, I'll pay more attention the the lights. I'm also a season ticket holder and been to all games.

was more than one light going last game. One light out does not ruin the experience as far as I'm concerned.  
 
Again if your so concerned, contact the Keystone Centre. Sure it's good to discuss on here, but contact those directly involved.

pretty sure if only one light was working, the Wheat Kings would say something. At most, I've only seen 1 or 2 not working. I've never seen only one working.

Every single one of the Mac 250 lights work. Yes 7 of the 8 lights are very dim and need replacing. End of last season when there was a power outage some fuses in the South End of the building blew and had to be replaced. That included the one light in the southwest corner, that is why it is brighter. Should the other 7 be replaced? Sure, but is it high on their priority list...who knows.  
 
If you are really that concerned complain to the Keystone. It is their responsibility to replace them, they own the lights.

Trevor B said "    Herbs said "While fixing little issues! Move the speakers slightly at the south end so that the netting can go up another two feet to the top of the glass. Or roll up the top so that it lines up with the top off the glass. Wasted two feet of overlap and unnecessary to look through both glass and mesh. " the mesh is like that intentionally.     But again, if you have an issue, contact the Keystone Centre. Posting on here won't do anything. "

I'm sure it's more a mistake or design flaw (and fixable) than intentional. Who really wants to look through mesh when glass is already there doing the same and easier to see through? Very fixable and would improve the view for that whole south end!

of the spectator netting that I've seen is hung the same way. Also the way it's hung might be how the WHL wants it.  
 
From the WHL Rule Book  
"Spectator Netting – Spectator netting shall be hung in the ends of  
the arena, of a height, type, and in a manner approved by the League."  
 
But again contact the Keystone Centre or the Wheat Kings for the definite answer. Many of these complaints on this thread can be answered without guessing or speculation by just contacting the appropriate organization.

I've only been to 2 games this year and I did not notice any issues with the lights or anything. I went to watch the game and was not looking for issues with the lights.

Soyummy said "Every single one of the Mac 250 lights work. Yes 7 of the 8 lights are very dim and need replacing. End of last season when there was a power outage some fuses in the South End of the building blew and had to be replaced. That included the one light in the southwest corner, that is why it is brighter. Should the other 7 be replaced? Sure, but is it high on their priority list...who knows.     If you are really that concerned complain to the Keystone. It is their responsibility to replace them, they own the lights. "

for that information!! I knew they were working, maybe not at 100%. And those lights are not cheap, over $2000 for one.  
 
And thanks for re-iterating what I've been saying. If so concerned, contact those directly involved. But AnimalLover wanted a discussion and hope by chance someone with the Keystone Centre or the Wheat Kings will respond. But with one e-mail to the Keystone Centre, all could of been answered and explained.

Trevor B said "     I see the 4 lights on the scoreclock working, 2 in the northend. They don't show the southend, but at last game, pretty sure those lights were working.     And for the goal lights, as long as they light red or green. That's all that's needed. Not sure what a brighter one will accomplish?         Edited by Trevor B, 2015-12-18 23:49:42"

had to go to youtube to watch it maybe you should watch your own video of how the projections looked like in 2009...at

have you emailed the Keystone Centre about the lights??? Just what do you what the rest of us to do?