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https://www.cnet.com/news/broadband-declared-a-basic-service-in-canada-internet-high-speed-crtc/?ftag=COS-05-10-aa0a&linkId=32645796  
 
 
http://www.crtc.gc.ca/eng/publications/reports/rp161221/rp161221.htm  
 
 
"Broadband internet access is now considered a basic service in Canada, the Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission, the country's telecommunications regulator, said Wednesday. The decision mandates higher download speed targets and creation of a C$750 million fund to build and reinforce broadband infrastructure in rural and remote areas over five years."  
"The ruling requires minimum download speeds of 50 megabits per second and upload speeds of 10 megabits per second - roughly10 times existing speed targets, the Financial Post reported. Canadians will be able to subscribe to unlimited data plans for fixed broadband service, as well as have access to the latest wireless technologies in the home and on major roads."

I think this will take them 50 years. We don't even have basic cell service with 10 miles from Brandon on a main highway. I am hoping MTS being sold will maybe speed up the process but I have my doubts as well. I would gladly pay a little more then I am now for good, reliable service.  
 
The internet is no different. The speeds aren't the best and certainly not consistent with MTS.

Bell buying MTS WILL NOT speed up network improvements. They are a telecommunications company that like every other telecommunications company in Canada - care about profit before service quality.

CL said "Bell buying MTS WILL NOT speed up network improvements. They are a telecommunications company that like every other telecommunications company in Canada - care about profit before service quality. "

who knows what the business is about.  
 
Who did Tobans vote for in 1997?  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Answer........  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Mr. Gary Filmon  
 
He privatized MTS.  
 
From that day forward it was all about profits and the share holder. As much as it is made to believe that the customer would be served they are not like in days past. It is a business to make the investors money.  
 
I hope I am wrong but with the sale/pending sale to Bell, there will/may be good/decent paying jobs lost to lower paid contractors.  
 
The next time you have your local MTS employee make a service call, hug him or her and say thank you......  
 
:-)  
 
Shooterguy

hobbes said "https://www.cnet.com/news/broadband-declared-a-basic-service-in-canada-internet-high-speed-crtc/?ftag=COS-05-10-aa0a&linkId=32645796       http://www.crtc.gc.ca/eng/publications/reports/rp161221/rp161221.htm       "Broadband internet access is now considered a basic service in Canada, the Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission, the country's telecommunications regulator, said Wednesday. The decision mandates higher download speed targets and creation of a C$750 million fund to build and reinforce broadband infrastructure in rural and remote areas over five years."   "The ruling requires minimum download speeds of 50 megabits per second and upload speeds of 10 megabits per second - roughly10 times existing speed targets, the Financial Post reported. Canadians will be able to subscribe to unlimited data plans for fixed broadband service, as well as have access to the latest wireless technologies in the home and on major roads." "

So were is the $750 million going to come from? Any guesses? Taxes? Forced funding from the government for the for profit companies to put funds into the fund? That will mean increase fees.  
 
This is a example of when a government gets involved in something that should be left to the providers and the customers to sort out by competition.  
 
Focus on getting their financials in order vs spending more on something that is not a basic service!  
 
Edited by Oh Canada, 2016-12-21 22:13:03

i notice it does not say AFFORDABLE broadband internet

shooterguy said "    CL said "Bell buying MTS WILL NOT speed up network improvements. They are a telecommunications company that like every other telecommunications company in Canada - care about profit before service quality. " who knows what the business is about.     Who did Tobans vote for in 1997?                     Answer........                     Mr. Gary Filmon     He privatized MTS.     From that day forward it was all about profits and the share holder. As much as it is made to believe that the customer would be served they are not like in days past. It is a business to make the investors money.     I hope I am wrong but with the sale/pending sale to Bell, there will/may be good/decent paying jobs lost to lower paid contractors.     The next time you have your local MTS employee make a service call, hug him or her and say thank you......     :-)     Shooterguy "

The CRTC is mandating that all providers confirm to these regulations. There will be federal funding of $500 Million that providers can use to upgrade infrastructure. Its not much in the grand scheme but it is something. Bills will inevitably get bigger to cover costs

My sister lives in Alabama.  
Their basic package includes:  
 
60 MBps internet  
Home phone with unlimited calls to US and Canada  
HD TV with DVR to 4 TV's, 125+ channels  
 
All for $1080 US per year. About $1400 Cdn.  
 
MTS and Westman have some catching up to do on price and features to get us similar basic package.  
50 MBps internet regular price with MTS or Westman is $1080 Cdn per year.  
I will say MTS and Westman have ok special offers, but they are for 3-6 months. Then prices double, sometimes triple after that period ends.

sumup said "My sister lives in Alabama.   Their basic package includes:     60 MBps internet   Home phone with unlimited calls to US and Canada   HD TV with DVR to 4 TV's, 125+ channels     All for $1080 US per year. About $1400 Cdn.     MTS and Westman have some catching up to do on price and features to get us similar basic package.   50 MBps internet regular price with MTS or Westman is $1080 Cdn per year.   I will say MTS and Westman have ok special offers, but they are for 3-6 months. Then prices double, sometimes triple after that period ends. "

the thing is the states has 10x the population to pay for the infrastructure, thats why they have better interstates as well.  
 
I can see being able to get most of us canadians those speeds at a fair cost but it would cost a fortune to extend those services to all canadians, there are many who live miles away from town that can only get satellite at no where near those speeds, data service isnt great and then there are those in remote communities, who likley need it the most but the expense to get them up to speeds is going to be a bit, mind you im no expert on all the technology so maybe there is a feasible solution canada should be working toward for people not in town or in the south of our country

the thing is the states has 10x the population to pay for the infrastructure, thats why they have better interstates as well.  
 
I can see being able to get most of us canadians those speeds at a fair cost but it would cost a fortune to extend those services to all canadians, there are many who live miles away from town that can only get satellite at no where near those speeds, data service isnt great and then there are those in remote communities, who likley need it the most but the expense to get them up to speeds is going to be a bit, mind you im no expert on all the technology so maybe there is a feasible solution canada should be working toward for people not in town or in the south of our country  
 
 
There are people in rural MB that have no basic Inet. My parents at the farm are an example. They cannot have dial up Inet. The Carrier that they get dial tone from just does not make it feasible. To go cellular or even one of the wireless providers is not good either. Trees and poor cell signal prevents it as well.  
 
I wonder how the providers would be able to honor this mandate.  
 
Pretty sure if Bell/MTS approached my dad and said could we put a tower on the hill on the farm he would say yes. They only limiting factor that would prevent people from grabbing signal from the tower would be distance. It is one of the highest points around that I know of....

shooterguy said "the thing is the states has 10x the population to pay for the infrastructure, thats why they have better interstates as well.     I can see being able to get most of us canadians those speeds at a fair cost but it would cost a fortune to extend those services to all canadians, there are many who live miles away from town that can only get satellite at no where near those speeds, data service isnt great and then there are those in remote communities, who likley need it the most but the expense to get them up to speeds is going to be a bit, mind you im no expert on all the technology so maybe there is a feasible solution canada should be working toward for people not in town or in the south of our country       There are people in rural MB that have no basic Inet. My parents at the farm are an example. They cannot have dial up Inet. The Carrier that they get dial tone from just does not make it feasible. To go cellular or even one of the wireless providers is not good either. Trees and poor cell signal prevents it as well.     I wonder how the providers would be able to honor this mandate.     Pretty sure if Bell/MTS approached my dad and said could we put a tower on the hill on the farm he would say yes. They only limiting factor that would prevent people from grabbing signal from the tower would be distance. It is one of the highest points around that I know of.... "

on our farm we can get dial up and we did have explorenet(sp?) but we also have the tree/line of sight issue for any other service, we too have a hill that is the highest in the area and i would gladly work out a tower deal but at this time the population just doesnt warrant anyone putting in the service, not sure what a tower costs but that is the only feasible way i see to get the few people in the area the services mandated  
 
I am curious, why can your parents not get dial up, whats not feasable? only people i know of that cant get dial up didnt want to pay for the phone line from the road to the house, but it has been 3 years since we had it, wondered how much longer they would offer dial up even, not that dial up is anywhere near sufficient  
 
as a side note we did put a booster in the house and that did make a world of difference in the ability to get any cell service at all

telephone switch that they are fed off of. I am a MTS FST(Technician) and all I have done to try and get them any sort of speed to open modern days web pages just does not work.  
 
When it comes to boosters and using cell, they are just in between the limits of towers. I can get cellular service on my work laptop about 1/4 of a mile down the lane or on the big hill. Does not help in the house......  
 
That is it in a nutshell. So the Feds say "broadband for everyone" LOL.....  
 
Time will tell.

Call me cynical but the way I interpret that is the Feds will spend $749 Million to make sure all of Ontario and Quebec get service everywhere and then they will forget about the rest of us.

withallduerespect said "Call me cynical but the way I interpret that is the Feds will spend $749 Million to make sure all of Ontario and Quebec get service everywhere and then they will forget about the rest of us. "

the same way......  
 
Get the taxpayer to once again feed the largest population sector.  
 
When the Feds give their heads a shake they will realize it is a losing proposition.......just like the long gun registry was.....  
 
It sounds great but do they NOT realize the vastness of Canada?????