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What's Pallister hiding? He won't show his tax return as the other leaders have, claiming his right to privacy. How does a politician from a working class family (as he likes to mention) buy a house like his? Does he need a mansion with seven built in garages? Also, he has a place in the tropics, which he cited to explain why he keeps a bank account in a loosely policed tax shelter country.  
His work history seems to have been mainly teaching and politics. Yep, it must be time to restore the PCs to power so those crazy teacher salaries don't drain our tax dollars.  
I'm sure this has nothing to do with any considerations he may have obtained when he and his cabinet colleagues sold off MTS.  
 
I wonder what he will gain when they sell Manitoba Hydro.

For folks not directly following daily developments in the campaign can you please provide examples of the type of mudslinging that the campaigns might be taking part in. Thx

Pallister Financial was founded in 1980 by Brian Pallister. Brian started in the financial services industry at the age of 25. In 1992 he entered politics. I am reasonable sure he has made a pretty good living from this business, and his tax info as such is between him and the cra.  
 

can't remember if she filled 2014 taxes.

Income Tax  
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/manitoba-election-selinger-tax-return-pallister-1.3529860  
 
Homophobia  
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/manitoba-election-selinger-pallister-homophobic-1.3530267

Selinger stated today that Pallister was homophobic - don't recall any comments from Pallister that would be considered homophobic.  
 
Selinger is still standing by his star candidate (Wab Kinew - Fort Rouge) who is on record making a number of homophobic statements.  
 
Liberals dumped a few candidates that made unsavory remarks in the past - Selinger should have asked Kinew to quit weeks ago. Although Bokhari's compaign is a mess I do hope she defeats Kinew.  

Even if you show your tax return it's not going to show if you are hiding money in an offshore account and not paying tax on it. How stupid does Greg Selinger think the electorate are. Looks like a last minute desperate attempt to discredit Pallister to me.

just_thinkin said "What's Pallister hiding? He won't show his tax return as the other leaders have, claiming his right to privacy. How does a politician from a working class family (as he likes to mention) buy a house like his? Does he need a mansion with seven built in garages? Also, he has a place in the tropics, which he cited to explain why he keeps a bank account in a loosely policed tax shelter country.   His work history seems to have been mainly teaching and politics. Yep, it must be time to restore the PCs to power so those crazy teacher salaries don't drain our tax dollars.   I'm sure this has nothing to do with any considerations he may have obtained when he and his cabinet colleagues sold off MTS.     I wonder what he will gain when they sell Manitoba Hydro. "

two farts how much Pallister makes or has in the bank as long as he worked for his cash.  
 
For you to speculate that Pallister will "gain something when they sell off Manitoba Hydro" is another example of mud slinging.  
 
So Selinger and his wife made 275,000 dollars last year between the two of them, guess he won't have a problem if the PST is raised to 9 or 10%  
 
Edited by Johnbisonbear, 2016-04-11 21:14:28

Pallister has made his money and he is entitled to spend it how he wants. It is the same with each and everyone of us. What someone else makes and has saved is none of my business. All this is is a stinky cologne called "desperation" by sellinger.

north of 54 said "Selinger stated today that Pallister was homophobic - don't recall any comments from Pallister that would be considered homophobic.     Selinger is still standing by his star candidate (Wab Kinew - Fort Rouge) who is on record making a number of homophobic statements.     Liberals dumped a few candidates that made unsavory remarks in the past - Selinger should have asked Kinew to quit weeks ago. Although Bokhari's compaign is a mess I do hope she defeats Kinew.   "

I liked it when I heard that he was running even if I have given up on the NDP but his comments were unforgiveable. For him to poke fun at the situation on that FN's reserve? Laughing about their troubles while he was going home to his comfy bed? wow!

Selinger said he wouldn't raise the pst,  
He did.  
 
Zero credibility now, Manitoba didn't forget

First, you've got the Liberals who seem to drive themselves further and further into the ground everyday. AS Trevor mentioned Liberal Leader Rana cant remember if she filled a tax return in 2014, but releases her 2013 T4, which lists her income as $24,584 after deductions. How do you not remember if you filled a tax return? Yet remember you filled your 2013 tax return. Then she says on CTV tonight that she would cut taxes for condo owners(she owns a condo) and then raise the taxes for homeowners who own houses and her reasoning is she thinks condo owners don't use enough public services to pay the same amount of taxes as everyone else. It makes no sense and the thing is everyone pays taxes for public services, buildings, and vehicles that they never use.  
 
Then you've got Greg who seems to be getting really desperate at this point and is on to his last resort tactics now.  
 
As for Pallister, I really don't care how much money he has in his bank account. Whether your poor or rich its doesn't really matter, all that matters is what your going to do for this province. When I vote I don't look for the candidate who made the least amount of money the previous year, then vote for them. I don't think anyone does.  
 
Its turned into quite the drama show. Nothing like the US though...yet.  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Edited by The_Young_Man, 2016-04-11 21:45:53

Voted today so have turned off the election crap for another 4 years.  
 
Edited by Gmaj7, 2016-04-11 23:04:09

I hope that one day, we have a candidate who is choosing to use what he plans to do as a platform versus what other people have failed to do.  
 
 
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Edited by IMO, 2016-04-12 03:00:55

PCs will sell Manitoba hydro, with Bipole 3 who would buy it  
Health care will be worse. Nearly every emergency dept in sw closed, no doctors  
Education will be worse, lowest scores in Canada  
Lay off good union workers, if your job is needed you will still have it  
Mr Pallister made money from his business, since when did making money become evil  
Making money from a salary is good,private enterprise is evil,profits are evil

DeSoto Sam said "Even if you show your tax return it's not going to show if you are hiding money in an offshore account and not paying tax on it. How stupid does Greg Selinger think the electorate are. Looks like a last minute desperate attempt to discredit Pallister to me. "

I am very curious to see if the one tax return as shown by CBC is even legitimate.  
 
I recall quite some time ago my grandfather had issues with his full name not appearing on his tax return. He was told that pseudonyms or nick names were not allowed on official CRA documents, which is why I question the use of "Greg" instead of Gregory.  
 
That said, no, I hate the mudslinging in any election. It makes the party who is slinging it look desperate and childish IMO.

just_thinkin said "What's Pallister hiding? He won't show his tax return as the other leaders have, claiming his right to privacy. How does a politician from a working class family (as he likes to mention) buy a house like his? Does he need a mansion with seven built in garages? Also, he has a place in the tropics, which he cited to explain why he keeps a bank account in a loosely policed tax shelter country.   His work history seems to have been mainly teaching and politics. Yep, it must be time to restore the PCs to power so those crazy teacher salaries don't drain our tax dollars.   I'm sure this has nothing to do with any considerations he may have obtained when he and his cabinet colleagues sold off MTS.     I wonder what he will gain when they sell Manitoba Hydro. "

Why should he have to show his tax return? that's nobody's business, and it is his right to privacy. What difference does it make how much money he's made?  
he's a wealthy man: and he's wealthy because he worked for it - when did that become a crime?

ash5555 said "    just_thinkin said "What's Pallister hiding? He won't show his tax return as the other leaders have, claiming his right to privacy. How does a politician from a working class family (as he likes to mention) buy a house like his? Does he need a mansion with seven built in garages? Also, he has a place in the tropics, which he cited to explain why he keeps a bank account in a loosely policed tax shelter country.   His work history seems to have been mainly teaching and politics. Yep, it must be time to restore the PCs to power so those crazy teacher salaries don't drain our tax dollars.   I'm sure this has nothing to do with any considerations he may have obtained when he and his cabinet colleagues sold off MTS.     I wonder what he will gain when they sell Manitoba Hydro. " Why should he have to show his tax return? that's nobody's business, and it is his right to privacy. What difference does it make how much money he's made?   he's a wealthy man: and he's wealthy because he worked for it - when did that become a crime? "

The way I look at it, yes, he is wealthy. But as opposed to a certain former Mayor of Winnipeg, at least he is spending his money on Manitoba property and not numerous Arizona investments.  
 
OK, yes, he admittedly also owns a vacation home in Costa Rica. But many Manitobans have more than one property. He was always upfront about that.  
 
 
 
Edited by foxtrot11, 2016-04-12 12:39:31

This tax return debate would be a whole lot different if it was a Coservative who had shown his return & NDP who refused. Makes me chuckle.  
You was mudslinging... watch NBC .  
I quit watch both.

That a party should be able to win on their own merits and not by bashing the other parties. Since when is slinging mud at the competition a positive mature behaviour. You see it with so many things (commercials where one brand negatively mentions another, etc) and it makes me not buy that brand for that reason. Again, if you can't come out ahead on your own merits then you don't deserve to win.

Greg Selinger knows he is finished and is grasping for anything that might sway a few voters.Who cares about showing tax returns < grasp, grasp,To all the promises (TOO LITTLE TOO LATE )Now the NDP want to jump on board with all the promises made by the other parties and claim (WE CAN DO BETTER THAN THAT). Mr. NDP, you had your chance to satisfy the voters in Manitoba and you blew it. I hope the surveys are accurate and the NDP get kicked to the curb.

Quote.. The is nothing more dangerous than a cornered rat, let the mudslinging and lies begin.. Time to clean out the deadwood. Don't worry they will all get fat pensions at our expense, they will probably get severance packages like all the Ndp staffers that quit during the leadership revolt.

Reg was with the Chamber of Commerce. One of their initiatives is to get people to shop locally. He had no trouble with Pallister spending so much time out of the country. Does Reg believe that Pallister took all his groceries with him to Costa Rica ? Or maybe that shop locally mantra only applies to the average citizen and not Pallister and Brandon's rich, and Chamber members, who holiday outside of Manitoba  
 
If Pallister cannot keep straight whether he was in Alberta for a family wedding, or at his Central American hacienda, how can we count on him to keep his promises straight ? If he cannot remember simple dates, how can he remember the details of his "better plan ?  
 
Or, maybe, it wasn't that he could not remember. Maybe he just thought it was a better strategy to lie about it. That would be pretty rich considering how he has lambasted Selinger for lying about the PST. Pallister and their supporters said the PC lie about MTS does not count because of the calendar. But maybe Pallister is showing that he is still not that well acquainted with the concept of honesty.  
 

just_thinkin said "What's Pallister hiding? He won't show his tax return as the other leaders have, claiming his right to privacy. How does a politician from a working class family (as he likes to mention) buy a house like his? Does he need a mansion with seven built in garages? Also, he has a place in the tropics, which he cited to explain why he keeps a bank account in a loosely policed tax shelter country.   His work history seems to have been mainly teaching and politics. Yep, it must be time to restore the PCs to power so those crazy teacher salaries don't drain our tax dollars.   I'm sure this has nothing to do with any considerations he may have obtained when he and his cabinet colleagues sold off MTS.     I wonder what he will gain when they sell Manitoba Hydro. "

Sounds like you are doing the mudslinging? I see the pros and cons from each candidate and still haven't figured out which one has the most pros, but to ask for private information I don't think is fair. His wife could have inherited the money from a uncle who won lotto max. Would everyone have to know that? It is like asking what kind of underwear do you prefer.  
I did find in the federal election with the NDP's main campaign was "Stop Harper" I really dislike when politicians put their opponents down. "taking down your neighbour won't take you any higher". Tell me what good YOU will do! Tell me what good changes YOU will make!  
Name calling, what ifs and maybes and I wonders have nothing to do with what a party can do. And you shouldn't have to justify if you are successful because unhappy people can be jealous and think they have a right to know why you are successful and think that you had to do something wrong for what you have.

standard standard h8r said "Reg was with the Chamber of Commerce. One of their initiatives is to get people to shop locally. He had no trouble with Pallister spending so much time out of the country. Does Reg believe that Pallister took all his groceries with him to Costa Rica ? Or maybe that shop locally mantra only applies to the average citizen and not Pallister and Brandon's rich, and Chamber members, who holiday outside of Manitoba     If Pallister cannot keep straight whether he was in Alberta for a family wedding, or at his Central American hacienda, how can we count on him to keep his promises straight ? If he cannot remember simple dates, how can he remember the details of his "better plan ?     Or, maybe, it wasn't that he could not remember. Maybe he just thought it was a better strategy to lie about it. That would be pretty rich considering how he has lambasted Selinger for lying about the PST. Pallister and their supporters said the PC lie about MTS does not count because of the calendar. But maybe Pallister is showing that he is still not that well acquainted with the concept of honesty.     "

Get a grip!  
 
Would you pack groceries when going on a flight half way across the country?  
 
It's one thing to pack groceries and dry goods for a 2 hour drive to the lake but come on!

I fail to see why it is anybody's business where a politician goes on vacation or how much money he makes.  
That has nothing to do with what kind of a job they will do for our province. Enough already!  
 
Did anyone watch the Brandon West/East debates last night? Just wondering if you thought the Chamber rep grilling Linda Ross about her voting record on the Brandon School Board was fair game?  

Voters, Just remember when you make the X ( Who increased the pst without consulting < after promising they would not increase it, Who allows Hydro to spend millions without a low bid process ( just hand over the blank check ,(THATS RIGHT ) No wonder the price on Bi Pole 3 changed by 2 billion in 3 years, the contractors know the check is blank.And who knows better about the wrong doings than the staffers who quit their careers over it, This has to stop and on Tuesday we have the power to stop it.

was sure offended by that question but if she is going to be part and parcel of her part's speculations that the Conservatives will fire teachers then she needs to face the facts that she voted to fire teachers while sitting on the BSB.

I don't care where he goes in his sister time. But to lie about it is unacceptable.