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Here I go. Brandon Hills has a sign for dogs to be on a leash and in the last 6 months I saw only 2 owners with their dog on a leash. Why all other dog owners do need keep their dog off-leash? No dog owner can really predict 100% for sure how their dog will react towards other dogs or crossing other people which can be dangerous. Last year few people got bit by dogs in Brandon hills . I am getting tired to have your dog(s) start galloping toward me, be sniffed, bark, circle me and jump on me and one dog actually after passing me turned around and jumped on my back. This is a bad behavior from your dog and from your part you are not controlling properly your dog. “Don’t worry, he’s friendly” or “he’ll leak you to death” and such phrases from dog owners is not acceptable. Some probably bring their dog for safety towards animals living in the woods well what about other people safety I am in a trail then I spot a dog with the owner being far away behind … what the heck! your pet should be beside you (not beside me). I did not cross once so far an off-leash dog stay by its owner’s side the whole time. Brandon Hills is a multi-use by cyclists, joggers, walkers, skiers, snowshoers, some children also some people have a dog phobia so why do you assume this is ok to have your dog off-leash in a area with dogs on leash sign.  
Please your furry friend on a leash.  
 
PS no need to trash your doggy poop bag on the gravel road once leaving the parking lot

all dogs should be leashed and under their owner's control, at all times! It doesn't take long to a tragedy to happen!

Is certainly an issue with me as well. I''ve heard it also, "He''s friendly, don''t worry", only to see them run aggressively towards us and our small (leashed) dog. I''ve also heard, "Our dog has never acted like tgat before" when a dog attacked our small dog. On one occasion our family became surrounded by no less than 10 dogs whose owner had let off leash. My daughter and wife were terribly terrified as three of the dogs were very aggresive in their behaviour and the rest just followed the pack. Thank god we didn''t have our small dog that day as I hate to think of what probably would have happenned. I almost got into fights over tgis at the hills and in the end, just gave up. There are just too many "greedy" owners that think it''s fun to have their dogs off leash (even though there are well indicated signs about only dogs on leash allowed.) Our smaller dog absolutely loved his walks in the woods, but we''ve given up to the greedy ba$tard$ and don''t go anymore as we figure that we''ve had too many close calls there with aggressive dogs towards our dog. People can be extremely self centerred and not give a hoot about others.You''ll see dogs off leash in the hills every day of the week!  
 
Edited by 70`s guy, 2018-02-11 22:20:31

I agree it's rude behaviour. Perhaps next time an off-leash dog starts to jump on my kids i'll make sure my "off leash" kids start jumping and nipping and snarling at the careless dog owners.  
Of course the off leash dog owners would be all in a huff and tell me to control my kids. That's when i'd say the same thing i've heard several times... "They've never acted like that before"...  
Perhaps if another loose dog in the Brandon Hills trail system starts to try and hump my leg i'm then free to hump the legs of the careless dog owners? No of course not. There'd be police involved, charges, court time, etc...  
 
Should i bring an on-leash doberman to the hills to eat/hurt your off leash dogs even if your off leash dog ran right up to my dobbie? It was self defence i can claim.  
 
Should i fling loaded dog bags of poop in your vehicle, on your work parking lot or at your house?  
 
No. None of these solutions make sense or are ethical, moral or polite. They are in terrible taste. It always blows my mind how so many blatantly just don't care.  
 
That's fine. I have a practical idea.  
The brandon hills wildlife district could use a bylaw officer to part-time roam the hills and issue citations. At the rate it's going there these days the officer could write up more than enough citations to cover their wage and then some....  
 
Ok. Let's hear the opposition roar!!!  
Guess what? Play by the rules and you have nothing to worry about.  
 
If you are above the law, too good for common sense of courtesy and common sense, you deserve the fine.  
 
I once got a speeding ticket. Was i angry at the officer? No way- i put myself in that position- speeding in the same spot of highway i often did. This time i got caught due to my actions. Take responsibility for yourself, your actions, and the actions of your pet. Or you just might get caught...  
 
P.S. i wrote this while sick with a very high fever and i hope it makes sense...

I have never been to the brandon hills with my little dog and I sure won’t go there now!  
 
I love dogs just as much as the next person but if someone’s dog is off leash well that’s a completely different story. Nobody truly knows how a dog will react to a stranger. Just the thought of it is horrifying to me.

Try xcountry skiing when unleashed and unruly dogs are allowed to run free on xcountry ski trail. Seen it often.  
 
Dangerous for the skier.  
 
Lots of great people with dogs however need to use some commonsense as well.

If I know my dog is perfectly fine off leash (and I know he is) I will do that. Nobody on this site or anywhere else will tell me otherwise. Deal with it.  
 
Edited by DMG, 2018-02-12 20:10:58

What makes you and your dog so special that you don’t have to follow the rules?

and when he runs aggressively up to me or someone else, we have to perfect right to give him a good kick to the guts and send him howling away.  
And if you say anything at all about it, well we will just tell you to deal with it, K ?

all this hate towards harmless friendly dogs being off the leash, and yet people with outdoor cats have no issue, see no issue, and do absolutely nothing about their cats running all over the place, in peoples yards, on vehicles, garbages, etc. its a very interesting double standard

atvallday said "all this hate towards harmless friendly dogs being off the leash, and yet people with outdoor cats have no issue, see no issue, and do absolutely nothing about their cats running all over the place, in peoples yards, on vehicles, garbages, etc. its a very interesting double standard "

that people are worried about 'harmless friendly dogs' but are worried for the potential for a dog running loose to attack their leashed dog. Especially if the leashed dog is small in comparison to the dog running loose. If someone owns two dogs and lets them run loose things can get ugly damn fast if they spot a small dog.  
 
I do agree with you on the issue of cats running loose, pain in the butt! Not to mention the risk of getting run over by a vehicle.

It’s always been a part of the human race to do what they want when they want regardless of the consequences for others. Doubt we will change that as indicated by a previous poster who lets his dog go off leash with no regard for anyone.  
I agree with most of the posts here for both dogs and cats. But with Dogs the problem can get worse. People think they have their dog trained but they really haven’t a clue on how to properly train a dog. Who knows what bite inhibition is? Many people have no clue about how to maintain a dog’s gentle mouth. They think their dog is just peachy until one day it bites someone. Then it’s the dogs fault. Actually it’s the human owners fault for not training the dog properly. The dog is just being a dog. Letting them run loose is irresponsible especially when there are other leashed dogs around. This is a good way to start a fight. It’s usually the leashes dog that gets hurt.  
 
Some People are full of their own self importance. They don’t care about anyone else and will continue to do what they want regardless of the consequences.

anti-dog spray...

So where is this sign posted about dogs being on a leash?  
 
I know the skiers don’t like any dogs on the trails, leash or no leash.  
 
There is no sign at the start of the 2km trail.  
 
Where is the sign ?

the sign is at the main entrance of trails so at the end of the parking lot. There are no signs all over in other trails but I do not see signs posted all over in Brandon but I see people walking with their dogs with a leash.

They could put a volunteer call out to dog owners. Create a dedicated pet trail or find an open field away from other users.

I agree that spray is a good idea to bring to the Hills (Stream N Wood), not just for aggressive dogs, but coyotes as well. (Hopefully not bears, but you never know!) Obviously, I don't mean spray every dog that walks by, lol. But it's a good idea to be protected. Another thing that might help is a walking stick, or a cattle stick (farm supply store). Not necessarily to hit with, but as a deterrent. Dogs on freshly tracked ski trails...grr! Oh well, first world problems, I guess ;p

It floors me the lack of responsibility some people have.  
 
We are no longer dog people as our dogs have passed away but people have to really think! We had 2 dogs, One was fine with people and hated other dogs and one was good with other dogs and hated people. When we lived in the city they were kept leashed at all times when out.  
 
So just because your dog may be fine off leash doesn’t mean the leashed dog is. The only dog I can control is the one on the leash and if your dog comes close it’s not going to be pretty and if you are walking too far behind there would be no way to gain control over your dog.  
 
It’s just a disaster waiting to happen. Be respectful of others and realize that not all dogs are the same.

I run in those hills at times off leashed dogs start to run towards me and 3 times I had dogs growling at me then from distance its owner yells at me 'oh you're fine' well sorry it makes me a bit nervous to have a dog barking at me. Once a dog tried to reach my hand the owner told me his dog thought I had food in my hand.  
Last year 3 dogs together showed up in the parking lot we didn't know who they belonged to suddenly after 4 minutes the 2 owners comes around the corner calling their dogs. Cannot tell me this is ok behaviors from owners.