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I noticed the bus shelters that were up before have been all taken down throughout Brandon. Asked the bus drivers but they did not know. Anyone have an idea why they are taken down?

The city is installing new bus shelters soon.

There are ~40 new replacement shelters that will be installed in the same locations.

I wondered about that. What removing the glass was all about.

Hopefully people will respect them more than the old ones.

I see the concrete base is down for one near the mall (pic added). Maybe my eyes are playing tricks on me but to the eye looks a little bigger than prev?

contract was awarded for the shelters a few weeks ago and they're doing a total re-vamp from what was in place before.  
 
All can be found on the city of Brandon tender page.

Slo mo said "There are ~40 new replacement shelters that will be installed in the same locations. "

Were is the money coming from for these new shelters? What is the cost per shelter?  
 
Would be interesting to know as the Transit system is a money looser. Also with recent cuts to the subsidy from the province for the Transit services would think that that would effect the budget for things like this.

Oh Canada said "    Slo mo said "There are ~40 new replacement shelters that will be installed in the same locations. " Were is the money coming from for these new shelters? What is the cost per shelter?     Would be interesting to know as the Transit system is a money looser. Also with recent cuts to the subsidy from the province for the Transit services would think that that would effect the budget for things like this. "

contract was awarded at a value of $123,000.00 approx.  
 
The Work is for the installation of transit shelters (supplied by the City), installation of solar lighting kits (supplied by the City), supply and installation of concrete, road repairs and boulevard sod in the City of Brandon.

Oryx said "    Oh Canada said "    Slo mo said "There are ~40 new replacement shelters that will be installed in the same locations. " Were is the money coming from for these new shelters? What is the cost per shelter?     Would be interesting to know as the Transit system is a money looser. Also with recent cuts to the subsidy from the province for the Transit services would think that that would effect the budget for things like this. " contract was awarded at a value of $123,000.00 approx.     The Work is for the installation of transit shelters (supplied by the City), installation of solar lighting kits (supplied by the City), supply and installation of concrete, road repairs and boulevard sod in the City of Brandon. "

What I guess the real question is how much is each of these bus shelters ready to go and complete and how many are being done. Were did the money come from?  
 
As most of these shelters end up being vandalized and need on going mantanance were is the money going to come from to pay for this?  
 
When you are running a service that is a money loosing service one would see that these would be a nice to have . Suggest most people would rather have reliable transit service at a affortable cost vs shelters that pull money from needed funds to run the service.  
 
Edited by Oh Canada, 2018-07-07 23:13:29

The money is coming from none other than us friendly neighbourhood taxpayers, where else would it come from?

I can’t believe people are complaining about 100k spent to upgrade bus shelters for our public transit riding citizens. If they were left with no shelter, would that be better?  
 
There are rants about people driving too fast or too slow but hey, the bus riders aren’t hurting anyone. I say they should get heated/cooled shelters with phone charging stations because they are the only people that aren’t raising our MPI rates.

Pedestrians? Do they raise mpi rates?

Added a pic of what looks pretty close to a finished product. Looks to be maybe a solar panel on the top to power at least a light which is kinda cool. Look pretty sharp but man is it like a greenhouse in there...granted not many days like this in a year!

Is about $500,000 with the city of Brandon picking up 25% or $125,000. The split is 50% from the feds and 25% province and 25% city of Brandon.  
 
 
Or 100% tax dollars. Most of these programs build nice to haves but not sure how this helps get people from point a to b reliably and at an affordable cost? $500,000 would go a long way to help that. Also would the city not be 100% responsible for on going maintenance? What happens to them when the routes change?

They look good. Lots of new ones in places none were before, but probably could use. Glad they waited until the route changes before installing, that was a wise decision.  
 
I rode the bus for many years in Winnipeg and appreciated a shelter in inclement weather. Yeah, it's taxpayer dollars, but it's for the benefit of everyone (yes, even you who choose not to ride the bus).

I see the new shelters have a side panel for advertising,guess this is a way of generating funds for the new shelters lol.

Adam said "    Oh Canada said "Is about $500,000 with the city of Brandon picking up 25% or $125,000. The split is 50% from the feds and 25% province and 25% city of Brandon.       Or 100% tax dollars. Most of these programs build nice to haves but not sure how this helps get people from point a to b reliably and at an affordable cost? $500,000 would go a long way to help that. Also would the city not be 100% responsible for on going maintenance? What happens to them when the routes change? " There a doc anywhere online you’ve found that you could link to? Just wondering about revenue from ad spaces that look to be on these and how it might factor in vs cost. At least two of the spots I’ve seen these installed went in places where there were only bus benches in the past. Wasn’t clear on what the city netted from the ads on those benches and how it would compare to any ads on these new shelters but I wouldn’t write off them paying for themselves (at least partially?) over time.  If the ads are lit they’re going to be pretty valuable, especially later in the year when it gets dark so early.    Separate thought but was reading an article about very similar shelters being installed in an Ontario city with solar panels et all. What caught my eye was that some of those were to have USB ports for device charging. Not clear if that’ll be the case here or if it would hold up in our climate but how handy would that be for bus riders! Edited by Adam, 2018-07-14 00:25:05 "

After I inquired about them from my city councillor. I will cut and past the response.  
 
Q)How many of these are being done, what is the final cost of each of these when everything is done and operational?  
 
A) There are a total of 32 shelters being replaced, including preparatory site work including concrete pad installation. In addition to the shelters being replaced, solar lighting is being installed on all 52 (20 existing are being retrofitted with a solar kit) to increase safety and security and eliminate monthly hydro charges.  
There will be minimal maintenance costs upon completion – routine cleaning and graffiti removal as required. All shelters are expected to be replaced by end of August, weather dependent.  
 
Q) Where is the money coming from to pay for these new shelters?  
 
A) These shelters are being replaced under the Public Transit Infrastructure Fund (PTIF) program. The PTIF program is a federal initiative with a three way contribution from Federal government (50%), Provincial (25%) and Municipal (25%). There are two projects connected to the shelters, Shelter Replacement (PTIF – 1027-) with approved funding of $352,000 and solar Lighting (PTIF-1080) with approved funding of $150,000. The City of Brandon is responsible for 25% of project costs which is $125,500.

I am pretty sure that the bunch benches that you see around town are owned by cardinal signs . they are responsible for maintained by them and supplying them. Would be interesting to know if they pay a pad fee for them to be located at the bus stops.  
 
Even if they do not pay a pad fee they supply as much seating as the new shelters at no cost or on going costs to the tax payer. Yes they are not covered or as nice but they beat standing .

there is seating for two people? How many other bodies can fit in the shelter?  
 
Curious, the solar panel, is that part of the roof open to the elements?

Transit like other city services are not meant to be money makers. It is a service. Parks and recreation and road maintenance are not money maker. Transit removes car traffic somewhat cuts pollution. It is here to stay so get over it.  
. The shelters are pricey though. Much needed with our winters and summer rain the wait for a bus is bearable. They need one at 18th and highland though. Other than the high price my only complaint is the cleaning. They need to step that up a lot. Windows for sure. It is hard to see a bus with Windows no one can see out of. Some shelters need a set back so mud and stuff from the street lay waste to the clean windows.

Hopefully the city installs garbage cans. The bus stops have huge debris fields.