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Most of the refugees are Muslim, no way are they going to work in a hog plant pork is against their religion

Midway55 said "Most of the refugees are Muslim, no way are they going to work in a hog plant pork is against their religion "

link says their religion allows for handling pork, but not consumption.  
 
Edited by Trevor B, 2016-01-07 19:00:52

there was a big hulabaloo at a Costco a year or 2 ago Muslim cashiers wouldn't handle pork or alcohol

http://pamelageller.com/2015/03/muslim-costco-employee-refuses-to-touch-pork-sues-after-getting-transferred-to-different-department.html/

went by what the CKLQ link says. And I've also heard where Muslims will refuse to handle pork and alcohol. Or even have it in the same building. The school cafeteria in Montreal for example.

Had a vet in Souris who came fro Iraq and was a Muslim and treated pigs. Thought I might do a bit of a search and see what came up.  
 
http://www.malaysian-explorer.com/handling-pigs-halal.html

and 9 more children in the school system that speak no English, that requires more needs than a class of say 40, maybe Maple leaf could pay for some education of workers and their families

is that local people that come here to complain about needing a job, would fill those positions. If I was as desperate as some seem to be, I would be hiking my ass over there to try and get a job.  
 
more kids in the school system, may mean for funds allocated to the school.  
 

Midway55 said "http://pamelageller.com/2015/03/muslim-costco-employee-refuses-to-touch-pork-sues-after-getting-transferred-to-different-department.html/ "

Using a anti Muslim activist as a reliable source. LOL  
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pamela_Geller  
 
 
There are endless right wing webpages that claim the story is true, do you have a main stream news source that confirm this story.  
 
The second issue is saying all refugees from Syria are card carrying Muslims, that's the same as them saying all Canadians follow the bible.  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Edited by loeog, 2016-01-07 20:46:11

I'm sort of like you, it would be nice if local people would take jobs there. I know it might not be the perfect job but people seem to have gotten pretty fussy about work. Maybe I'm wrong on this but there are some jobs that a lot of people view as undesirable, but I've always figured if someone else can do a job, then I shouldn't be afraid, or consider myself too good to do it.  
 
I spend quite a bit of time watching business channels and before Christmas there was some discussion on how people were giving up on the American Dream, which in a way is what happens when able bodied people choose not to work, they really never came to a conclusion of who or what was to blame but it is becoming a problem in a lot of countries.

Didn't they just lay off 400 employees in November? now there hiring refugee's.

Brenda said "is that local people that come here to complain about needing a job, would fill those positions. If I was as desperate as some seem to be, I would be hiking my ass over there to try and get a job.     more kids in the school system, may mean for funds allocated to the school.     "

do you think the fund come from? ,taxes. not companies that benefit from paying lower wages.CEO of maple leaf 6.6 million per year

that the feds/prov. government will pay a good percentage of their wages

this thread is dumb and needs deleted. so many narrow minded, misinformed comments  
 
Edited by one more thing.., 2016-01-07 21:40:36

per year to pay taxes now, thanks Justin

one more thing.. said "this thread is dumb and needs deleted. so many narrow minded, misinformed comments     Edited by one more thing.., 2016-01-07 21:40:36"

Why then not contribute your own fresh thoughts and comments?  

Maple Leaf once, and all I did for 8 hours was flip pork butts that weighed over a certain weight. Standing in the same place, staring at a weigh scale screen while hunched beneath another conveyor. For the longest time that was ALL I did for weeks straight. Eventually my back was getting constantly sore and could barely walk up the 5 flights of stairs to the lockers or cafeteria. Tried getting on other duties, even going to the nurse and being put on light duties. But they all involved standing in one spot hours hours at a time. I eventually left. To this day, I cannot stand in one spot for long periods, I have to be moving.  
 
When I worked there, that was when they were giving away vehicles and other incentives for attendance. And just started bringing in people from Central America.  
 
Not everyone is cut out for factory jobs like that, it might be a good stop gap till you can find something else. But getting time off to go to job interviews might be a challenge.

Kellye said "    one more thing.. said "this thread is dumb and needs deleted. so many narrow minded, misinformed comments     Edited by one more thing.., 2016-01-07 21:40:36" Why then not contribute your own fresh thoughts and comments?   "

so i can have narrow-minded, prejudice people make misinformed arguments about things they know nothing about???  
 
No thanks  
 
What I will say is that i welcome anyone to our country who is willing to contribute to society, pay taxes and especially take jobs that us Canadians think we are too good for.

my22cents said "per year to pay taxes now, thanks Justin "

Sure it isn't the last ten years of Harper's government you have to thank? Or were you paying no taxes until a month ago?

Trevor B said "Maple Leaf once, and all I did for 8 hours was flip pork butts that weighed over a certain weight. Standing in the same place, staring at a weigh scale screen while hunched beneath another conveyor. For the longest time that was ALL I did for weeks straight. Eventually my back was getting constantly sore and could barely walk up the 5 flights of stairs to the lockers or cafeteria. Tried getting on other duties, even going to the nurse and being put on light duties. But they all involved standing in one spot hours hours at a time. I eventually left. To this day, I cannot stand in one spot for long periods, I have to be moving.     When I worked there, that was when they were giving away vehicles and other incentives for attendance. And just started bringing in people from Central America.     Not everyone is cut out for factory jobs like that, it might be a good stop gap till you can find something else. But getting time off to go to job interviews might be a challenge. "

like Maple Leaf is a great job but here Trevor is a young enough man and it wore him out physically.  
 
A lot of these workers come from countries where they would only earn 350 dollars a month, max. So when they see the wages they can make at ML they think they are well off!

I never said it was a great job, but it is a job.  
 
I know a woman, who might be 110 lbs, mid 50's who has worked there on the floor since it opened and loved it.  
 
Take a chance if you are desperate for work, you never know!

Brenda said "First off - I don't have a problem with Maple Leaf hiring any refugee's. What I do have a problem with is people in Brandon that complain they can't get a job,have looked all over for a job, living on welfare when they are very capable of working etc. This link says they could hire as many as 25. If you go to the Towne Centre there is a Maple Leaf recruit kisock.     http://www.cklq.com/index.php?id=62&tx_ttnews%5Btt_news%5D=10035&cHash=d1b95feed44075b2723052ae76a77a52       "

should stop giving welfare so easy to people. Should include a course in school on money management, saving and spending only what you can afford because some parents are not any better.

Trevor B said "went by what the CKLQ link says. And I've also heard where Muslims will refuse to handle pork and alcohol. Or even have it in the same building. The school cafeteria in Montreal for example. "

I think you're right. I grew up with some Muslims people and they won't touch pork or a dog's nose.

Please lets remember the only reason they are refuges because of religion,so lets not great them with same, count your blessing its not happening to you and your family.

I'm sort of curious what percent of these refugees are Muslim, from any of the reading I have done about the refugee camps they are a combination of Muslims, Christians and others.  
I read the link that was given in the opening of this from Cklq, and at the end of the link they mentioned about the Syrian Muslims not being able to eat pork, which is part of the Muslim religion, but it was not unlawful for them to handle pork. Maybe it's just me but I think that Mapleleaf would have done some research into this before making the announcement, really there's no doubt in my mind about them doing the research before making the statement.  
 
I've never been backward about engaging people in coversation, and last fall I questioned a Muslim about the name Mohamad, I said him if there were four or five students in a class and they all had the first name Mohamad how would the professor address a certain student. This led to him explaining how many Muslims are named. Even thought his first name was Mohamad he had a second and third name, and depending on the situation, which name would be used.  
 
When I was in school I didn't work very hard but I hard one teacher say to me something that I actually remembered. I was told that there is nothing wrong with being ignorant, because it is something that you can do something about. I sort of took that suggestion to heart and try to look at things from all sides, because sometimes what we think and what actually is the truth are two different things.  
 
 
 
Edited by don brown, 2016-01-08 12:47:49

The whole immigration agenda is to bring more people into Canada. We have a huge geographic land mass with a very low population. Like Russia we have an aging population so if they do not get more people into Canada it would eventually die out. Manitoba only has 1 million people and a lot of infrastructure to maintain if you look at our debt clock we are 35 Billion dollars in debt. Something has to change.

BuddyCthulhu said "    my22cents said "per year to pay taxes now, thanks Justin " Sure it isn't the last ten years of Harper's government you have to thank? Or were you paying no taxes until a month ago? "

not paying taxes, I just came in on the last plane, do I have to pay already. LOL

I heard that Maple Leaf wasn't even hiring local people. They relied on the foreign workers because in order to come to Canada, they had to stay at the employer for 2 years I believe the length was. If they leave the job, they get sent back to their country.  
 
So that would be one reason why employers liked the TFW program. They can lock people into a contract to work for them for guaranteed time. While with local people they can't. These TFW's can't even go and find other employment till after their TFW agreement expires.

Trevor B said "I heard that Maple Leaf wasn't even hiring local people. They relied on the foreign workers because in order to come to Canada, they had to stay at the employer for 2 years I believe the length was. If they leave the job, they get sent back to their country.     So that would be one reason why employers liked the TFW program. They can lock people into a contract to work for them for guaranteed time. While with local people they can't. These TFW's can't even go and find other employment till after their TFW agreement expires. "

Maple Leaf always highers local worker if there are any who apply and pass the physical test, job interview, etc. Yes, there is a physical test to see if a person is actually capable of the job. No, they do not discriminate. There are hearing impaired and physically impaired people who work there. All races, all skin colours, all religions and all body types. They have even highered women who the company knows are pregnant at the time of being highered. Many business will not higher pregnant women because in a few months they will be on maternity leave.  
 
True, there is a two year contract with the TFW Program. Considering the company pays for the work visas, all paperwork needed, passports, airfare, accommodations prior to the workers arriving in Canada and partial furnishings of the apartments (brand new bed and a few other necessities), first month bus fair, sets them up with bank accounts and continually helps with paper work for the worker as well as their families to get permanent residency. For all Maple Leaf workers, the company also helps with filling out paperwork for maternity leave, short term or long term diability, has excellent dental coverage, vision coverage and pharmaceutical coverage that cannot be beat. They even offer coverage for quitting smoking. There is probably much more that Maple Leaf does for their workers that escapes my attention or I am forgetting about.  
 
There are already Muslims who work at Maple Leaf. And personally, I am happy that Syrians are being welcomed by a company who will do more than just give them a job. The Syrians who do accept a job at Maple Leaf will have help they will need for their life in Canada, just like the rest of the employees are offered.  
 
Edited by AndreaD., 2016-01-08 17:34:19