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Heath orders coming Friday from what I gather and so far from what I have read... "Campgrounds can provide accommodation for recreational vehicles that are acting as a primary residence."  
 
Not sure if more are coming into effect or not... Things keep changing  
 
https://winnipeg.ctvnews.ca/new-health-orders-come-into-effect-friday-manitoba-health-officials-1.4898668?cid=sm%3Atrueanthem%3Actvwinnipeg%3Amanualpost&utm_campaign=trueAnthem%3A+New+Content+%28Feed%29&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR175aK9g-3QPNGBR9aOyLWTgR5ipkh7OWqVai0xQZZbMHX_Oy-HTCkKRd8

https://www.canada.ca/en/parks-canada/news/2020/04/parks-canada-extends-suspension-of-camping-reservations-and-events-across-the-country-until-at-least-may-31-2020.html  
 
Some info for parks Canada and I am guessing we will find our more for provincial parks tomorrow. Their site:  
 
https://www.gov.mb.ca/sd/parks/

Into private owned campgrounds, aspen grove, Souris, wawanesa, oak lake, minnedosa.

I would assume that IF they are allowed to open, it would be for RVs/campers with washroom on board only, and would think the campground bathroom/shower facilities would be closed.  
Any park, mini golf, pool, etc would likely be closed as well.  
 
Better off going and parking in the bush, lol.

If you can show me some bush with septic/water and power supply lemme know I'm interested!

Received an email from Oak Island Resort campground the other day as we have a seasonal there.  
 
" Under the current public health order which has been extended to April 28th we are unable to operate or allow any public access to the campground.  
 
That being said, once the order is lifted we hope to be able to open to our Seasonal customers for May 1st as scheduled. We have plans in place to ensure social distancing within the grounds that will protect both staff and customers. You will be notified of any changes and guidelines before the open date.  
 
We want you to be prepared to expect a delay in operations in terms of potable water and ground maintenance. Once we get the go ahead from the Manitoba government we will be doing absolutely everything we can to get open and fully operational as soon as possible. "

We have a seasonal and all I can say is that I hope they keep campgrounds closed until safe. That isn’t going to be anytime soon.  
 
For us the point of the campground is to socialize, our site is wide open and has the walking path right around it. I don’t trust people to keep far enough away. I know for a fact some of our camper friends are not taking it as seriously as we are. I know my child certainly isn’t going to be happy just sitting on the deck when she is surrounded by all her friends.  
 
With no pool and no playground it’s pointless to go imo.  
 
If they are going to be asking for full fees we will likely be pulling out.  
 
Cabins with yards are definitely different and I am sure some campsites would be private enough but I know ours isn’t and I really don’t think it should be open

Thought that we were asked to stay at home and only travel for essential purposes. In a pandemic situation I am not understanding how camping can be called essential.  
 
Edited by Farmergeorge, 2020-04-16 22:39:58

I have a seasonal site and there is more then 10 foot of solid bush on either side of my site. When the leaves are on the trees you can’t even see the campers in the other sites. Also my campground is private and only has seasonal campers. I don’t see the issue in that. It’s like a second home.

Guess that it is going to be up to the government to determine the risk. It is sad to see that in some places where restrictions have been reduced governments are having to quickly reintroduce state of emergencies again due to a resurgence of covid cases. It’s hard on everyone but I favour continued restrictions until we really get a handle on this virus.

I see you missed the "essential travel" part. Going to your camper isn't "essential travel". People are not supposed to be going to their cottages right now - seasonal camp sites are no different. The mayor of Kenora was on the news this week, upset that he saw so many Manitoba plates there this past weekend.  
 
Part of that reason is that if you *do* get sick, rural and small town hospitals will be quickly overrun with patients that do not reside there. You should be staying put where your domicile is, as your place of usual residence should have sufficient services to support the population in those areas.

We also have a seasonal on a private site. The issue is not you or me going to our sites that is the problem. The problem is all of the sudden we or other campers are now flooding small town neighboring grocery stores, convenient stores or small town gas stations.  
 
This creates hot spots within certain areas in MB or other provinces. It also makes it harder to trace where new cases pop up, not everyone is going to be honest and say where they traveled or that they stopped by another town along the way to their seasonal even if it was just to gas up... That is why unless your seasonal is your home it is under public health order to stay home unless it is essential. Now is not time for travel.

Exactly these comments! Essential travel to me does not i:nclude my camper. We are supposed to be staying home.  
 
And sure your site has bush all around it but a lot of other campgrounds don’t. They can’t physically go from campground to campground saying who gets to use theirs or not. They will do a rule for them all and I truly believe they all need to stay closed.  
 
Manitoba is doing well in flattening the curve but let’s not give ourselves a false sense of security. People are not being tested bottom line. Until they open up the parameters for testing then we will never truly know our numbers. Not everyone with Covid needs to be hospitalized.  
 
I just don’t understand the reason everyone is so willing to risk it so quickly.

Turtle crossing is opening May 1 and using social distancing guidelines. All public areas on the grounds will be closed.

Very dangerous during a Deadly global pandemic.  
 
Edited by Farmergeorge, 2020-04-21 03:35:47

In parts of the world covid is a deadly pandemic. But here in Manitoba covid is not a deadly pandemic. We have had many days with zero or one or two numbers. Over the weekend we had on average one a day get it. I can’t even remember the last day we had double digit cases.  
 
I seen that Pallister wants to open all seasonal campgrounds May first and I’m thrilled to see this covid 19 thing turning around. As long as here in Manitoba we keep washing our hands and keep social distancing. I don’t see why we can’t have an enjoyable summer.

We are looking forward too; keep washing hands and social distancing ! Love camping, and cant wait to get to our cabin soon!!

A link where pallister said he would like to open campground? I would be interested in reading that.

Check star fm Facebook.

I don’t have Facebook but I will ask a friend to share the information with me. Thanks

While MB's State of Emergency continues for a month, Public Health Orders are set to expire May 1st unless otherwise renewed. Two different things.  
 
That said, Premier Palister says he wants MB to be the first province in Canada to reopen, saying yesterday he'd "like to see Manitoba become the first in the nation to bring its economy back online, as long as public safety can be assured and testing capacity increases". Another day of no change in Manitobans hospitalized, at eight, which i:ncludes five intensive care. Manitoba has 105 active cases and 144 who have fully recovered.  
 
Ontario also wants to open for business. Doug Ford said yesterday he's working on plan. “Eventually we have to turn the economy on, and the framework must have strict criteria and key benchmarks that must be met before lifting or easing restrictions." The province's new modelling numbers yesterday painted a much more optimistic picture than previously projections, suggesting Ontario will likely only see 20,000 cases, 60,000 fewer cases than projected.  
 
Manitoba Campers may have a place to go starting May 1. If the provincial health order is relaxed at month's end, many Westman campgrounds are ready to open to seasonal customers May 1st. Most if not all, have plans in place to ensure social distancing within the grounds that will protect both staff and customers. Customers will be notified of any changes and guidelines before the open date.  
 
Same goes for golfers in MB, hoping for the all-clear at month's end, for gatherings of up to 50 people. Right now, the number of people is 10, both indoors and outside. That measure, first put in place March 30, was recently extended to April 28, but Manitoba course professionals hope this will soon be relaxed.  
 
The first jurisdiction in North America to "get back to business" will be Georgia and it will come Friday. Georgia will open gyms, hair salons, bowling alleys and tattoo parlors to reopen as long as owners follow social-distancing and hygiene requirements. Elective medical procedures would also resume. By Monday, movie theaters may resume selling tickets, and restaurants limited to takeout orders could return to limited dine-in service. Tennessee will open Monday along with Colorado, and South Carolina.  
 
Hot on the heels of Manitoba's Garden Centres opening to customers, the City of Brandon’s green cart program is back starting Tuesday, May 5th. Once underway, weekly pick-up will be will continue through to early November, weather permitting.

The province released this today with their daily update:  
 
"Public health officials advise Manitobans to stay home as much as possible to prevent the spread of COVID-19. This includes only travelling to the cottage or second residence if needed. If people must travel, they are encourage to:  
• only travel with family members,  
• not visit with others on arrival,  
• avoid stopping for gas or other supplies on the way, and  
• only visit local health-care providers in case of emergency."  
 
https://news.gov.mb.ca/news/index.html?item=47598  
 
The key words here are "if needed". But they're provided guidelines for those who need to go and check on properties or have another reason they must attend their second residence.

We don’t have a seasonal, but normally travel around to different places on our time off during the summer. We’ve decided for this year, even if things open up, we are leaving our camper in storage and hanging out at home. Going to put a fire pit in the backyard and set things up nicely so we can relax here in Brandon.

Let’s hope. We have been talking about this a lot in our house. We LOVE our seasonal spot. We been there for a few years now. We have made long lasting friendships there.  
BUT  
What are we there for - to socialize, relax, swim, our daughter plays with her friends.  
 
We pay a lot for the spot. We pay that fee for those things - pool, playground, beach, ice cream, store, campfires with friends (plus sewer and water obviously). Our deck is the “go to” for everyone. If we are out of the camper we have someone sitting on the deck visiting or stopping by to chat. My daughter is on the go with friends from sun up to sun down.  
 
I personally don’t think we should be going at least not yet. Maybe later in the summer.

We received our yearly contract for our seasonal campsite but no word on a date yet. I believe the committee is meeting May 2.  
 
I don’t want things to open too early and risk a second wave that is worse than the first buuuuuuttttt....I’m also really hoping that with rules and guidelines, at least some places will be allowed to open if they can safely do so.  
 
The campground we camp at is a very small one and everyone is already far away from each other as our lots are large. It would be easier to respect social distancing at places like ours compared to the larger and busier ones. We wouldn’t need to go to any of the local places of business and if we needed medical attention, Brandon is only about 40 minutes away. (They want you at your home based hospital I think I read)  
 
Each campground will have different pros and cons to them in regard to opening and being able to follow the rules so I hope that’s taken into consideration when the gov’t makes their decision

Sammy what campground is that? Sounds like it’s the perfect size.  
Someone from a nearby campground saw my post and sent me a note. They informed me that the camping association of Manitoba is working with the government to figure out a way to i:nclude distancing and stuff in the bi laws so they can open to seasonal people first. Only your private site will be accessible, no parks or beach etc. Might not be until end of June for people like us who don’t have seasonal lots. If we are told they can open we will likely consider a seasonal so we can utilize the new camper in May and June  
So if the governments Says it’s ok then a camping we will go. Safely of course

What I would like to see happen is for those of us who don’t feel comfortable enough to use our seasonal to be given a reduced rate. I know our friends are not taking things as seriously as we are and the best way to keep us safe is to stay home

https://www.gov.mb.ca/sd/pubs/parks-protected-spaces/parks_covid.pdf

Farmers markets, garden centres and greenhouses are allowed to operate as well, as long as social distancing measures are in place.  
 
Hotels are allowed to operate as long as common areas including pools, hot tubs and game rooms are closed.  
 
Campgrounds can provide accommodation for recreational vehicles that are acting as a primary residence.