Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 96
In Response to Derek and Enfyre
10/4/2015 at 8:05 PM
Derek,
You've suggested that Jesus didn't start the Catholic Church. If that's the case, then what did he start? What followed from Him? Jesus said in Matthew 16:18, "Though art Peter, and upon this Rock I will build my Church and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it", What followed was a Church that stayed mostly unified for the first one thousand years, there was a division into the Orthodox and Catholic Church some time after that - but it was not until the Protestant Reformation around 1500 years after Jesus' time on earth that the most significant rift took place.
At that point people started to create their own Christian denominations and now there are over 30,000 denominations of Christianity - so which one of those denominations was Christ referring to when He said 'the gates of hell will not prevail against it'? If it was one of the protestant ones then I suppose you would probably suggest that the gates of hell prevailed against the Church for most of the first 1500 years of it's history and that really Jesus meant to create that specific protestant Church 1500 years earlier, but perhaps never got around to it.
Enfyre is right, the Bible wasn't fully compiled until the 4th century, and so this poses a significant question for DerekBM, specifically, 'who ultimately decided on what books should compose the Bible'? The Answer was the Catholic Church. It's kind of hard to reject Catholicism but agree with their Canon of the Bible.
As for Enfyre's suggestion that "So for those first 300 years, Christianity, as we know it in its current forms, didn't exist, and therefore nobody has any historical justification to call their own denomination the correct one." is not completely true either. I think most religious scholars would agree that most of the early Church followers were much closer to the Catholic Church of today than they would be to any of the protestants. That the early Church focused so heavily on the Eucharist, confession of sins, the prayers of the saints, faith and good works and had an emphasis on Mary.
If the Bible is to be the final authority for our faith, then who is the final authority of interpreting it? Surely over 30,000 different and separate Christian denominations must tell you that there is a problem with anyone being able to interpret the Bible on their own - if they are all in some way different, they can't all be right? Which Church therefore has the fullness of truth?
I hope and pray that if you search you will find the answer.
As for Lene, or anyone else who might be interested, if you ever want to learn more about the Catholic Church or would like to consider talking to someone about it further, feel free to message me. We are praying for you and the world every day. God Bless.