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Jimm said "I like the 500kg I always stayed under 500 kg and made ten trips to dump instead paying bill. it cheaper to burn gas then pay for dumping and bad enough garbage in ditches thanks there just be more. cuz I'll probably dump my branches on someone else's road now so I can buy my tims coffee "

Yap its a really good idea to just dump your branches on someone else's road, so you don't have to pay the $2 fee. I really hope our kidding.

The_Young_Man said "    JDRAMSEY said "Ah yes, I was wondering how far I would have to read to see Trevor B let us know once again that he's totally on board with any and every price increase the Brandon area endures. " Since when is Trevor not aloud to have an opinion and express his opinion? "

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, even if it is biased. We all know Trevor works for the City of Brandon and he even has his picture up so clearly he's not going to say anything negative!  
 
$2 or $20 it doesn't matter people are still going to dump their trash in trees to avoid it. Just like when you used to (maybe still do) have a sticker on your old fridge or freezer saying the freon was drained. Certain people just tossed them in bush to not have to deal with the hassle.

The next issue I see is local RM`s raising property taxes to pay for employees picking up large amounts of garbage left in ditches from people who choose not to take it to the landfill or having to hire an by-law officer or municipal constable to go after people dumping garbage in ditches, which is illegal. Or increase the hours of the constable or by-law officer to do more enforcement. Its already an issue and from reading this post and seeing how many people are outraged, its only going to get worse. Hopefully not.  
 
Edited by The_Young_Man, 2017-01-05 15:50:07

spoiled by not having to pay any landfill dumping fee seeing how pretty much every other landfill charges a residential fee for dumping. And our fee is peanuts compared to other places. There would be a riot if we had to pay what other cities charge. Some places will charge you double the fee if you have an improperly covered load.  
 
It's not that I support the new fees, I'm just showing that it's very common at landfills. People illegally dump now when there was no fee because of sure laziness and because they simply don't want to take it to the landfill.

It`s just like another tax. We pay plenty in taxes.  
 
How about charging parking fees at the airport? People that can afford to travel can certainly afford to pay a fee for parking their vehicle safely there. Hey why not? Maybe Trevor can tell us how many airports across Canada charge for their parking and how much?

Johnbisonbear said "It`s just like another tax. We pay plenty in taxes.     How about charging parking fees at the airport? People that can afford to travel can certainly afford to pay a fee for parking their vehicle safely there. Hey why not? Maybe Trevor can tell us how many airports across Canada charge for their parking and how much? "

Or if viewed at other airports. Red Deer is free airport parking and $10 per day for electricity. I could support that at our airport. Ah but their tipping fees start at $7 min at the dump. That is almost 4 times higher than ours. If people can afford homes and all the garbage they produce I guess they could afford higher tipping fees too?

Fishin Guy said "    Johnbisonbear said "It`s just like another tax. We pay plenty in taxes.     How about charging parking fees at the airport? People that can afford to travel can certainly afford to pay a fee for parking their vehicle safely there. Hey why not? Maybe Trevor can tell us how many airports across Canada charge for their parking and how much? " Or if viewed at other airports. Red Deer is free airport parking and $10 per day for electricity. I could support that at our airport. Ah but their tipping fees start at $7 min at the dump. That is almost 4 times higher than ours. If people can afford homes and all the garbage they produce I guess they could afford higher tipping fees too? "

the tipping fee is another tax and we pay enough in taxes right now.  
 
Maybe we could opt out of paying our share of taxes in regards to garbage? If someone has a half ton truck and only had to pay two bucks to empty it once a month that could save a lot of bucks! Just saying!

Because I thought you had to pay....had no idea it used to be free. I don't use any city services that require a fee unless I'm forced to. I'm not going to get into it but Brandon generates enough revenue....

It's landlords like me and private businesses that will feel the outcome of this. All of my properties that have more than four units are required to have large "private bins". So, I'll give all of you on here just one guess where all the "extra" yard waste and trash is going to go! ...Yep, along with that old mattress, couches and anything else that wont fit in a regular garbage bin. For twenty bucks to be added to the city tax would resolve everyones gripes about digging for change and prevent illegal dumping. Because it's going to cost me a lot more then twenty every month for extra pick-ups of the garbage at the apartments. Just these past two weeks the trash was heaping and falling out of the bins during the Christmas holidays. Done two pick-ups so far and kicker is that over half of the tenants are students are still away for their break! I know it's others taking advantage of the large open bins, but what am I suppose to do? ...Maybe I should pass it down to my tenants rent?  
 
Mr. Chrest, are you reading this? This is going to make more problems then money. For the city to now start charging a buck to cover costs, they're only passing the buck onto someone else to do their job. Bad move Rick, just a bad move.  
 
Just my opinion, I could be wrong.

bigmoe said "$2 is not going to break me but it bothers me they it costs nothing for them to pick it up ( not considering taxes) but if I take it all the way out there myself and save them having to take it, it costs me $2. We had extra garbage after Xmas so I hauled it out there. In future I'll hold on to it and slowly put it all in the container. "

One way to do it.  
 
Edited by tlr, 2017-01-05 20:54:46

If you have an issue with the fee, then contact your city councillor and voice your complaint. Im sure at some point in the near future this issue will be back before city council and maybe if people complain a lot then maybe that will affect future decisions on this issue. I doubt the city pays much attention to these discussions.

The_Young_Man said "If you have an issue with the fee, then contact your city councillor and voice your complaint. Im sure at some point in the near future this issue will be back before city council and maybe if people complain a lot then maybe that will affect future decisions on this issue. I doubt the city pays much attention to these discussions. "

someone moves here from one of those places that charges $20, they'd be more than excited to only have to pay $2. Residents from these other places will probably have a laughing fit to see this thread. But then again this is Brandon.  
 
And every year in the fall city council sets the next years fee schedule. This is nothing new. Where was the outcry before?

Trevor B said "    The_Young_Man said "If you have an issue with the fee, then contact your city councillor and voice your complaint. Im sure at some point in the near future this issue will be back before city council and maybe if people complain a lot then maybe that will affect future decisions on this issue. I doubt the city pays much attention to these discussions. " someone moves here from one of those places that charges $20, they'd be more than excited to only have to pay $2. Residents from these other places will probably have a laughing fit to see this thread. But then again this is Brandon.     And every year in the fall city council sets the next years fee schedule. This is nothing new. Where was the outcry before? "

you sure have a low opinion of Brandonites! Hope that not all city employees share your thoughts!

The landfill is the only location where one can drop off and separate all the electronics, used oil, used antifreeze, leftover paint, large metal o:bjects, etc and dispose of them properly.  
 
At the same time, many of these goods (oil and electronics) have user fees that are charged at time of purchase for recycling fees.  
 
Does the city get a cut of the recycling fees? Where does that user fee end up? Why are we getting double taxed?  
 
I agree that the dump fee will motivate some to dispose of goods improperly. I also think that these fees will result in people storing more items at their residences until their loads are adequately large enough to pay the dumping fee. Personally, I'd have a hard time dropping off 2 or 3 litres of oil for the price of $2.

Johnbisonbear said "    Trevor B said "    The_Young_Man said "If you have an issue with the fee, then contact your city councillor and voice your complaint. Im sure at some point in the near future this issue will be back before city council and maybe if people complain a lot then maybe that will affect future decisions on this issue. I doubt the city pays much attention to these discussions. " someone moves here from one of those places that charges $20, they'd be more than excited to only have to pay $2. Residents from these other places will probably have a laughing fit to see this thread. But then again this is Brandon.     And every year in the fall city council sets the next years fee schedule. This is nothing new. Where was the outcry before? " you sure have a low opinion of Brandonites! Hope that not all city employees share your thoughts! "

Don't we all, half of this site is Brandonnites complaining about other Brandonnites and what their doing.

Johnbisonbear said "    Trevor B said "    The_Young_Man said "If you have an issue with the fee, then contact your city councillor and voice your complaint. Im sure at some point in the near future this issue will be back before city council and maybe if people complain a lot then maybe that will affect future decisions on this issue. I doubt the city pays much attention to these discussions. " someone moves here from one of those places that charges $20, they'd be more than excited to only have to pay $2. Residents from these other places will probably have a laughing fit to see this thread. But then again this is Brandon.     And every year in the fall city council sets the next years fee schedule. This is nothing new. Where was the outcry before? " you sure have a low opinion of Brandonites! Hope that not all city employees share your thoughts! "

Just be thankful you don't live in Edmonton or Calgary like Trevor pointed out or you'd have to pay more then a double double. I mean there is only a million people in each of those cities I am sure they have a small landfills to operate, likely the size of Brandon's... Ah well its only $2 I guess we better suck it up.  
 
Off topic but how much are water rates going up again?? 33.3%???

Bob George said "The landfill is the only location where one can drop off and separate all the electronics, used oil, used antifreeze, leftover paint, large metal o:bjects, etc and dispose of them properly.     At the same time, many of these goods (oil and electronics) have user fees that are charged at time of purchase for recycling fees.     Does the city get a cut of the recycling fees? Where does that user fee end up? Why are we getting double taxed?     I agree that the dump fee will motivate some to dispose of goods improperly. I also think that these fees will result in people storing more items at their residences until their loads are adequately large enough to pay the dumping fee. Personally, I'd have a hard time dropping off 2 or 3 litres of oil for the price of $2. "

I would have a hard time paying $2 to drop off oil too when you can just take it to usually any place that deals with oil. Electronics can be taken to ewaste depots in town. Large metal items I take to places like Wesman and get paid in scrap.

This is from when city councillors debated the landfill frees a month back.  

Admin wants to introduce $5 landfill entrance fee for residential customers/ some councillors against this/ debate ensues(2017 fee schedule)

&mdash: Jillian Austin (@jillianaustin) December 6, 2016

 

Dauphin, Virden, Portage charge $8-$10

&mdash: Jillian Austin (@jillianaustin) December 6, 2016

Council votes in favour of $2 landfill entrance fee.

&mdash: Jillian Austin (@jillianaustin) December 6, 2016

 
 
Atleast our city council didn't follow Virden, Portage, or Dauphins prices.  
 
Edited by The_Young_Man, 2017-01-05 23:22:33

It would be easier to add a few dollars to everyone's property tax.

Notice at the link below put out by the city today that appears to be intended to answer questions like those asked in this thread over the past few days.  
 
The fee is now in place for loads of 500kg and under. Bigger loads are paid based on weight. From the release, "does not apply to the drop-off of E-waste, the drop-off of used oil products at the ECO-Centre, or drop-offs at the Household Hazardous Waste Depot."  
 
There's a few sentences that speak to purpose/allocation of funds... indicating that the fee is to "help offset the per tonne levy that the City of Brandon must pay into Green Manitoba’s Waste Reduction and Recycling Support (WRARS) Program"  
 
Link:  
http://www.brandon.ca/public-notices-details?var=3410

Livforegolf said "$2.00 is nothing, go to Winnipeg landfill. 10 years ago it was $10.00. "

and now that they have a fee in place here the city can raise it annually or whenever they feel like it.

snowman5 said "It's landlords like me and private businesses that will feel the outcome of this. All of my properties that have more than four units are required to have large "private bins". So, I'll give all of you on here just one guess where all the "extra" yard waste and trash is going to go! ...Yep, along with that old mattress, couches and anything else that wont fit in a regular garbage bin. For twenty bucks to be added to the city tax would resolve everyones gripes about digging for change and prevent illegal dumping. Because it's going to cost me a lot more then twenty every month for extra pick-ups of the garbage at the apartments. Just these past two weeks the trash was heaping and falling out of the bins during the Christmas holidays. Done two pick-ups so far and kicker is that over half of the tenants are students are still away for their break! I know it's others taking advantage of the large open bins, but what am I suppose to do? ...Maybe I should pass it down to my tenants rent?     Mr. Chrest, are you reading this? This is going to make more problems then money. For the city to now start charging a buck to cover costs, they're only passing the buck onto someone else to do their job. Bad move Rick, just a bad move.     Just my opinion, I could be wrong. "

I would rather not have $20 bucks added to my bill. I would rather pay user fees. I go to the dump every couple years to throw something out so I will gladly pay the $2 instead of $20 and not step foot in the dump.

Adam said "Notice at the link below put out by the city today that appears to be intended to answer questions like those asked in this thread over the past few days.     The fee is now in place for loads of 500kg and under. Bigger loads are paid based on weight. From the release, "does not apply to the drop-off of E-waste, the drop-off of used oil products at the ECO-Centre, or drop-offs at the Household Hazardous Waste Depot."     There's a few sentences that speak to purpose/allocation of funds... indicating that the fee is to "help offset the per tonne levy that the City of Brandon must pay into Green Manitoba’s Waste Reduction and Recycling Support (WRARS) Program"     Link:   http://www.brandon.ca/public-notices-details?var=3410 "

So is this additional to the recycling or container fees that we already pay for plastic drink bottles, tin drink cans, battery recycling etc.Or where do those fees go?

Blade said "    Adam said "Notice at the link below put out by the city today that appears to be intended to answer questions like those asked in this thread over the past few days.     The fee is now in place for loads of 500kg and under. Bigger loads are paid based on weight. From the release, "does not apply to the drop-off of E-waste, the drop-off of used oil products at the ECO-Centre, or drop-offs at the Household Hazardous Waste Depot."     There's a few sentences that speak to purpose/allocation of funds... indicating that the fee is to "help offset the per tonne levy that the City of Brandon must pay into Green Manitoba’s Waste Reduction and Recycling Support (WRARS) Program"     Link:   http://www.brandon.ca/public-notices-details?var=3410 " So is this additional to the recycling or container fees that we already pay for plastic drink bottles, tin drink cans, battery recycling etc.Or where do those fees go? "

http://greenmanitoba.ca/wrars/  
 
http://www.cbcra-acrcb.org/manitoba-faqs  
 
Here are two links to the two. Once seems Federal and the other Provincial.  
 
I am sure the fees we currently pay on cans and such....the pennies that it is goes to current recycle programs. I cannot see all the pennies adding up enough to cover the true costs to run the recycle plants.

Gripping about this $2.00 fee, the vast majority of cities charge a basic fee, and some of the weights are not that much, one place I was reading was only 250 kgs, we are allowed a basic 500 Kg's  
 
And in your larger centers like Calgary edmonton Regina saskatoon the land fill is not 10 minutes away like it is here in brandon, could be 20 minutes to an hour. and people still haul the big stuff out, pay their 10 or 20 dollars.  
 
But we here in brandon dont like the $2.00 fee so so some insist on dumping in the lane or out in the country ditches to let some one else look after it.  
 
it's your stuff look after it.  
 
the land fill here is well run, its clean, convenient and well organized and cheap. And for the most part you dont have to go to the tipping face and fight with the gulls. most stuff can be dropped in the separated piles for recycling.  
 
for landlords that are complaining, you know you are operating a business, so it becomes an operating cost, put it in your budget. you can recoup your $2.00 per trip. the average homeowner can't recoup that cost.  
 
just saying.  
 
lets keep out city clean.

Blade said "    Adam said "Notice at the link below put out by the city today that appears to be intended to answer questions like those asked in this thread over the past few days.     The fee is now in place for loads of 500kg and under. Bigger loads are paid based on weight. From the release, "does not apply to the drop-off of E-waste, the drop-off of used oil products at the ECO-Centre, or drop-offs at the Household Hazardous Waste Depot."     There's a few sentences that speak to purpose/allocation of funds... indicating that the fee is to "help offset the per tonne levy that the City of Brandon must pay into Green Manitoba’s Waste Reduction and Recycling Support (WRARS) Program"     Link:   http://www.brandon.ca/public-notices-details?var=3410 " So is this additional to the recycling or container fees that we already pay for plastic drink bottles, tin drink cans, battery recycling etc.Or where do those fees go? "

if we could recoup some of the money that we have to pay every time we buy something recyclable? I guess we should be grateful for the cash back for beer bottles (if you drink beer) but they only give that cash back to encourage buying more beer.  
 
I feel for the land lords, every time some one moves out next to me he's got to get rid of their junk. Last time he must have taken three loads! I don't understand why renters don't take their furniture, is it because it's too easy to get free stuff donated to them?  
 
Last budget consultations I remember the final number for the tax increase being reduced because of the profit made from recycling, it was a bigger number that previously thought, so obviously money is being made right? Just that citizens cannot cash in, we just get another fee added to what we already pay.

goshdarn said "Gripping about this $2.00 fee, the vast majority of cities charge a basic fee, and some of the weights are not that much, one place I was reading was only 250 kgs, we are allowed a basic 500 Kg's     And in your larger centers like Calgary edmonton Regina saskatoon the land fill is not 10 minutes away like it is here in brandon, could be 20 minutes to an hour. and people still haul the big stuff out, pay their 10 or 20 dollars.     But we here in brandon dont like the $2.00 fee so so some insist on dumping in the lane or out in the country ditches to let some one else look after it.     it's your stuff look after it.     the land fill here is well run, its clean, convenient and well organized and cheap. And for the most part you dont have to go to the tipping face and fight with the gulls. most stuff can be dropped in the separated piles for recycling.     for landlords that are complaining, you know you are operating a business, so it becomes an operating cost, put it in your budget. you can recoup your $2.00 per trip. the average homeowner can't recoup that cost.     just saying.     lets keep out city clean. "

while i think a $2 user fee i fairly reasonable i get that it does open the doors to raise the rates and people will discard garbage elsewhere buuut why I quoted you, goshdarn, is because maybe you are not aware but MB is rent controlled, meaning that landlords do not get to run their businesses as they see fit and markets demand, they have to follow the RTB guild lines to raise rents which never seems to cover all the increases in costs, yes you can apply for above guild line increases ect but all of that is time which equals money and RTB is not landlord favorable, meaning that likley you will be denied or only granted some of hwta you applied for, of course this means more slums because the landlord cannot keep up with the costs of how much tenants abuse their buildings, anyway thats another thread but fyi it isnt that easy to just incorporate all the increases in costs so landlords have a valid point imo

It's 2$. Why is everyone so upset?

Knucklehead said "It's 2$. Why is everyone so upset? "

It probably could be $0.25 and people will still bellyache!!  
 
People litter and dump things now out of shear laziness when there was no charge.

E-waste, the ECO-Centre, and the Household Hazardous Waster Depot are exempt from the fee.