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Another bad accident at the 110 and Richmond this morning.  
 
We really need lights at this intersection.

As the wife of the guy in the last big accident a year ago, I totally agree! We both come out that way to work each morning and there are so many close calls it is ridiculous! Someone is going to die at that corner! They need lights, rumble strips or something......  
 
Edited by Vicks, 2015-06-25 08:55:57

Contact the MLA for Provincial Highways. It is a bad intersection. I hope everyone is ok.

generally, death seems to be the major incentive that gets things done in road changes. anything short of death or political pressure, the government isn't going to do anything.  
 
/pessimism

For those commenting on the need for lights, have you taken any action? Contacted the dept of highways, started a petition, contacted the mp or mla?  
 
I hope everyone involved in this accident is okay.

How can it be so dangerous? It's absolutely wide open, with no visual impairment, and completely flat. Not to downplay anything, but I'm not sure how lights will help.  

someguy said "How can it be so dangerous? It's absolutely wide open, with no visual impairment, and completely flat. Not to downplay anything, but I'm not sure how lights will help.   "

Patience and eyes open will go a long way......

Does anybody realize what the speed limit at this intersection is? For those who don't , it is 90 km an hour in both directions... That's hwy speeds. Do you know how far you travel in 1second at that speed? (A lot) Why is there not (minimum ) rumble strips on the 110 sections? Like every other hwy intersections. How about being proactive and get some improvement done even a little. Does anybody realize how much BIG truck traffic let alone car traffic there is at that intersection ? The current Manitoba government stated that " it is s functioning intersection and no improvement is needed". Hmmm with the ball diamonds right there and all the hazardous materials being transported on this "Dangerous Good Route" don't you think "due diligence" is warranted? Let alone Big trucks causing big accidents when they happen. It is only matter of time before there will be death & destruction at this intersection. Yes this is ebrandon and I will be chastise for this " rant" but I am talking from experience on this issue. My friends and coworkers can attest to that. I was in a bad accident at this intersection a little over a year ago. And survived with probably a permanent limp but still glad to be on this side of the dirt!

someguy said "How can it be so dangerous? It's absolutely wide open, with no visual impairment, and completely flat. Not to downplay anything, but I'm not sure how lights will help.   "

I travel through that intersection every day. A couple times a week I have to slam on the brakes for a big truck turning East onto Richmond. The truck drivers seem to grow tired of waiting for traffic and decide to create an opening. Trucks hauling hogs to Maple Leaf are the worst.

Bad drivers are bad drivers period. Lights don't cure the problem if you ask me. Look at the Kemnay bridge and its warning lights.....really working well.  

i know driver of big truck at fault . but also you would think the driver of little truck would also watching the road it is a wide open corner. an if you see a big truck not slowing down for a stop sign .  
my opion both are at fault .  
 
an heard driver of little truck is alive . he is lucky.

i dont think visibility is the issue and im not sure how many travelers on the 110 miss the stop (rumble strips couldn't hurt and are a cheap upgrade) I think the real issue like others have said is that in the wrong part of the day there is too much traffic on Richmond for people on the 110 to cross or turn so they are left to force their way in or take chances, honestly Richmond is almost as busy as the 10 and they have a light so i agree a sensor controlled light there would be appropriate  
 
i do hope everyone involved in todays acident is ok

Let's put any that say it can be avoided in that same situation and see how they do.  
The pickup drivers view was blocked by a semi turning north in the turning lane. As he drove east and passed the front end of that semi it was too little too late. So no, they could not see because it is "wide open". And no, they are not deceased.  
I agree something has to be done. Overpass, switch so the stop signs are on Richmond instead of 110, lights, anything.

I was a victim of this intersection, when a truck heading south blew through the stop sign and broad sided me on the passenger side. The driver of the truck stated he never saw the stop sign, even though there is a red flashing light situated above it. I agree a set of lights are overdue here or at least rumble strips to get a persons attention to the fact that they need to prepare to stop. I for one would be more than happy to sign a petition to the government to warrant better controls before someone is fatally injured.

My bet is there is a argument on who pays for and then maintains lights . Cripes they probably(city/highways) can not agree who pays the hydro to run them.  
Unlike the lights at the intersection of 17th which the city owns along with Richmond. The 110 is highways responsibility. I think in time we will see lights.

bizzinga said "i know driver of big truck at fault . but also you would think the driver of little truck would also watching the road it is a wide open corner. an if you see a big truck not slowing down for a stop sign .   my opion both are at fault .     an heard driver of little truck is alive . he is lucky. "

Obviously you are not in touch with reality

bizzinga said "i know driver of big truck at fault . but also you would think the driver of little truck would also watching the road it is a wide open corner. an if you see a big truck not slowing down for a stop sign .   my opion both are at fault .     an heard driver of little truck is alive . he is lucky. "

What are you talking about? Would you slow down on the Transcanada highway at the Douglas turnoff, or at the 110 bypass turnoff, or at the Austin turnoff? Not likely. The point is, is that Richmond Avenue is the thru-way. Period. Vehicles should stop at the stop sign. Period.  
Just wow..........

bizzinga raises a good point, as a driver you have too and should be constantly aware of your surroundings and what the drivers around you are doing. When I'm driving I`m always watching out of the corner of my eye what the other drivers are doing as there coming up to stop signs and intersections and I've avoiding a few accident because of that. But having said that who knows what the case was here and the accident likely happened so fast that there wasn't much anyone could do and no ones paying attention 100% percent of the time. I'm sure both drivers tried to avoid the accident but by that time it was too late. And at this point considering this accident has gotten no media attention for some reason other than on social media, everything is just speculation and rumors at this point, but it does appear it was the truck drivers fault just from looking at the position of the two vehicles and did not stop at the stop sign.  
 
Reality is all accidents are avoidable in on way or another.  
 
 
 
 
 
Edited by The_Young_Man, 2015-06-25 20:29:10

there are 4 very distinct tire skid marks just before the intersection eastbound on richmond ave that were made by the man in the pickup...there are no skid marks whatsoever before, in or after the intersection heading south on the 110...there is, however, a big red stop sign on the 110 with a flashing light on it...he just didn't even attempt to stop...period! The man in the truck is alive and expected to make a full recovery.

To the guy who posted that the men are still alive tysvm for that info. My husband drives there very often.

This is the 4th accident I have heard of so far in the last month. Hope everyone is OK.

I don't get y the hiway has the stop sign y wouldn't the street (Richmond) have the stop sign like veterans way was if they don't wanna put up lights make it a 4 way stop  

I think it is because Richmond was there first. Also traffic count wise far more traffic goes East/west than those that use the bypass. Why force more traffic to stop heading east to west than the fewer numbers using the bypass?  
 
 

Doug said "I think it is because Richmond was there first. Also traffic count wise far more traffic goes East/west than those that use the bypass. Why force more traffic to stop heading east to west than the fewer numbers using the bypass?       "

Either lights or make the bypass the through lane. The only time Richmond is really busy is when there is shift change at Maple Leaf. I have seen line ups of semis waiting to try and turn onto Richmond. The best solution would be to install control lights.

bizzinga said "i know driver of big truck at fault . but also you would think the driver of little truck would also watching the road it is a wide open corner. an if you see a big truck not slowing down for a stop sign .   my opion both are at fault .     an heard driver of little truck is alive . he is lucky. "

you should be looking out for your surroundings, common, both vehicles are not at fault. There was a STOP sign there. When you see a stop sign you are supposed to STOP, look both ways, and proceed. Don't blame the guy in the small truck for somones elses carelessness.

I am astounded that there is that much east/west traffic that truckers can't wait (insert time) and pull out right in front of vehicles just to get across. Seems like a bit of a reach to me...

someguy said "I am astounded that there is that much east/west traffic that truckers can't wait (insert time) and pull out right in front of vehicles just to get across. Seems like a bit of a reach to me... "

Its not just truck drivers who are causing accidents at that corner. There's been two serious accidents involving semis in the last year but there has been dozens of accidents involving passenger vehicles and no semis at that intersection in the last year.  
 
Edited by The_Young_Man, 2015-06-26 18:11:13

what exactly happened there? Was it the semi that ran the stop sign or the truck? What's the condition of the drivers?  
 
For how bad this accident was, I have not heard much about it on here, Twitter, Facebook or on the radio.

assuming the truck ran the stop sign because I saw it parked on the south side of Richmond east when the police were taking pictures and surveying.  
And it was on the radio because I heard it just as soon as I drove past it.  
 
Edited by prissy02, 2015-06-26 18:30:11

by the picture, it looks like the semi was heading south on 110 and the pickup east or west bound on Richmond. And for the semi to make it that far past the intersection, it must not of slowed or even stopped at the stop sign. If the semi did stop and then pulled out, the accident should of been right at the intersection.  
 
All that I saw about the accident was to avoid the area because of the accident.