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Do you think mpi should make it mandatory for people to get a pre-safety done on their vehicle before they sell it? It would save a lot of hassle when you email someone And they say I'm not sure what it needs. Or it should pass safety no problem..yeah I know buyer beware!! But if a person wants to sell their vehicle..spend the 55$ to get the inspection done and show the prospective buyers. Just my opinion. What do you think?  
 
Edited by mightyquinn2, 2015-11-21 10:37:14

I think to each there own

AC2 said "I think to each there own "

if you buy an unsaftied vehicle from someone that says it will pass no problem, and you take their word for it, then take it in and the mechanic says it needs 2500$ in repairs to get it on the road. That would be ok with you?

Timetowakeup said "A simple option is if you see a vehicle that u like you tell the owner you want a pre safety and that you will pay for it that way you can decide where they take it and you will get a quote as to the cost for the safety once safety inspection has been done you only have 30 days for repairs or it has to be redone and will cost again "

that option would definitely rule out some of the scammers...im sure there would be some that would say yes and ones that would say no.

When I sold my car I wanted it gone, I wasn't going to pay to put a permit on it, make an appointment at a shop, drive it into town, wait around for it to be done, and drive it back. I honestly just wanted it gone. When the person came to buy it I was honest with what had gotten fixed for the safety 2 years ago, and what probably had to be done (I knew it needed new tires and it could have needed new breaks) but my price reflected that. I sold if for really cheap compared to the others online simply because I didn't know how much money they'd have to put into it to get it road worthy. But I don't think making it mandatory is okay. You think it's inconvenient to send an email? That you don't have to leave your house or seat for? But it isn't an inconvenience to do all of the above things, and waste money if no one buys it within 30 days, because then you have to do it all over again.

we were selling a car and had the pre-safety done. What we did is sold it as is, but we were truthful in what it needed. We also started some of the work too while waiting for it to sell.

mightyquinn2 said "Do you think mpi should make it mandatory for people to get a pre-safety done on their vehicle before they sell it? It would save a lot of hassle when you email someone And they say I'm not sure what it needs. Or it should pass safety no problem..yeah I know buyer beware!! But if a person wants to sell their vehicle..spend the 55$ to get the inspection done and show the prospective buyers. Just my opinion. What do you think?     Edited by mightyquinn2, 2015-11-21 10:37:14"

I think a person should be able to sell a vehicle in any condition, if that is their wish. To me, a vehicle without a safety should be viewed by the buyer as a complete unknown as far as what it may need for a safety. If someone wants to be sure (if that's even really possible) of what they are buying, they should only buy a vehicle with an existing safety or pre-safety. Buyer beware in all cases of purchase.  
 
There will always be a market for vehicles without a safety, so making it mandatory for all vehicles for sale to have a safety or pre-safety is too much govt. regulation.  
 

Only look at vehicles with a safety. When someone wants to sell a vehicle, they usually don't want to put another dime into it. Permit. Tow. Mechanic appointment. Most people selling a vehicle are not certified mechanics so they don't see what's beyond the surface. I usually tell people what I think it needs.  
A prospective buyer should go to the mpi website and do some research concerning criteria that should be met for a manitoba vehicle safety.  
This is not meant as a negative comment. Just a helpful one to those who are looking for a used vehicle.

What if I want to buy a parts car? or project car? personally id rather buy it unsaftied for a cheaper price and safety it myself. or take it to my own mechanic. How would you know the safety on it was legit?

fargobob said "    mightyquinn2 said "Do you think mpi should make it mandatory for people to get a pre-safety done on their vehicle before they sell it? It would save a lot of hassle when you email someone And they say I'm not sure what it needs. Or it should pass safety no problem..yeah I know buyer beware!! But if a person wants to sell their vehicle..spend the 55$ to get the inspection done and show the prospective buyers. Just my opinion. What do you think?     Edited by mightyquinn2, 2015-11-21 10:37:14" I think a person should be able to sell a vehicle in any condition, if that is their wish. To me, a vehicle without a safety should be viewed by the buyer as a complete unknown as far as what it may need for a safety. If someone wants to be sure (if that's even really possible) of what they are buying, they should only buy a vehicle with an existing safety or pre-safety. Buyer beware in all cases of purchase.     There will always be a market for vehicles without a safety, so making it mandatory for all vehicles for sale to have a safety or pre-safety is too much govt. regulation.     "

I can agree with you on that point. I guess where do you draw the line between a parts car and a saftiable car.  
Common sense would be if selling a vehicle for parts then it would be advertised as FOR PARTS ONLY.  
But for a vehicle that can be saftied, it would be advertised as CAN BE SAFTIED but its being sold as is and I don't know what it needs for safety so don't ask me what it needs because I cant be bothered. or I have a pre safety done and it needs this done etc etc..  
 
But yes I agree I guess I never thought about how much red tape it would take to implement MPI government regulations, and chances are our insurance would escalate to pay for such a program. Thanks Fargobob, I actually never thought about it from your perspective.

Never buy a car without having a mechanic look at it no matter what the owner says, a car that can pass a safety is worth a lot more than than one without a safety, so if the owner isn't going to invest 55 dollars to get top dollar for their car that should be a warning sign something is up.

Midway 55, it has nothing to do with just the $55. What about the permit you'd need to take it to the mechanic ($50)? Possible time off work for the appointment? The hassle to take it there and back? The car I was selling didn't have plates on it, so I'd either need to buy a permit or pay for a tow truck. As well it's only good for 30 days. So you want me to pay that every 30 days? And go through that hassle if it doesn't sell? It doesn't mean something is up, it could simply mean they don't want to deal with it.

A safety isn't even a guarantee that the car is in good shape, it passed the minimum requirements.  
 
Take the car for a test drive before you buy it. If you aren't capable of deciding the condition of a car recruit a trusted friend. Onus is always always on the buyer for vehicles. Everything I have ever bought or sold has said as is where is on the bill of sale.  
 
Cars can be huge money pits. If they are cheap there is probably a reason if you aren't mechanically inclined purchase a safetied car and leave the unsafetied ones to people that are willing to take a chance or do their own wrench work

The Manitoba Govt rips people off enough with their crazy insurance rates. If you decide to buy a used vehicle un-safetied then its buyer beware.I would never take anyone's word saying that the vehicle will pass a safety no problem.

To my knowledge if you take a vehicle and get a official presafety done you have 30 to 45 days to get the work done or your vehicle can be pulled of the road. Maybe a reason.  
 
Even buying safetied vehicles doesn't mean that there are not items that may be close to needing replaced. It is buyer beware . if you are serious about a vehicle taking to a shop you are confident in and spending $100 could save you thousands and a lot of headaches.

So how about vintage buyers that want to fix one up? There's no way. Buyer beware, buy unsaftied and deal.

Jeeper said "Midway 55, it has nothing to do with just the $55. What about the permit you'd need to take it to the mechanic ($50)? Possible time off work for the appointment? The hassle to take it there and back? The car I was selling didn't have plates on it, so I'd either need to buy a permit or pay for a tow truck. As well it's only good for 30 days. So you want me to pay that every 30 days? And go through that hassle if it doesn't sell? It doesn't mean something is up, it could simply mean they don't want to deal with it. "

Im defiantly not for the forced safety, Im just saying if I buy a car Im not taking your word for it that it will pass a safety, anybody that would is a fool unless its dirt cheap your risking thousands in repairs to get it on the road and way more money into the car than its worth and gets what they deserve, the its too much hassle story is the perfect cover story to pass off a junker if you want market value from me for your car, you better be able to back it up, Id be a fool otherwise.

Im with everyone else. its not the governments job to regulate the sale of used vehicles and its not my problem if you dont want to buy a vehicle unsatisfied, if you dont just dont but if i prefer to sell mine as is (which can have a safety and not run lol) then its my choice and chance to take. Of course the incentive to me to safety the vehicle is more buyers will look at it and i may fetch a higher price because its less hassle but its all a deal between buyer and seller and nothing to do with mpi

MPI only has jurisdiction over registration of the vehicle and the requirements to do so. It's your property and can sell whenever you want to whomever you want however you want.