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Rider84
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Which Truck?
2/19/2016 at 2:42 PM

My husband and I are considering replacing my SUV with a 4X4 half ton but aren't sure which way to go. We are considering:
2015 Chev Silverado 1500 double cab
2015 Dodge Ram 1500 Crew Cab
2015 Ford F-150 XLT Super crew

The truck would be used for daily commuting and occasionally towing. Would love to know the pros and cons of each truck.
Also where have you gotten the best value for your trade?
ultraguy
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ultraguy
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2/19/2016 at 3:06 PM

Everyone will basically say that the truck they bought is the best one. Here's some good comparisons

http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2016/01/whats-the-best-light-duty-truck-for-towing-2016-texas-truck-showdown.html

http://www.caranddriver.com/comparisons/2015-chevrolet-silverado-vs-2015-ford-f-150-2015-ram-1500-2014-toyota-tundra-comparison-test
zero_one
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zero_one
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.....................
2/19/2016 at 3:08 PM

Maybe this wont matter to you but I hear that with the aluminum bodied fords need a ford aluminum certified shop to do the repairs. A buddy of mine has a claim on his new ford and was told it would be two years before they would be able to do it. I guess because there are only a few places in Manitoba certified to do it right now.
Nemesisngr
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Daily Commuting?
2/19/2016 at 3:38 PM

1/2 ton, 4x4 daily commute = Ram 1500 EcoDiesel.
Marv
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Marv
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Truck
2/19/2016 at 3:40 PM

Plan a day and test drive all three. I would suggest trying all the same build. Like all three be crew cabs. You'd regret the double cab for the very little price difference between it and a crew cab. It all comes down to how it feels to you driving it.
Chrismann85
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Something most overlooked
2/19/2016 at 3:50 PM

Check out what the estimated insurance costs would be. There is an insurance costs estimate tool on the MPI website that should give you a rough idea of what it would cost either per month, per year, or quarterly costs. Also common repair costs i.e. brakes, tire replacement (different rim sizes different tire sizes etc etc)

Chrismann85
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Yes

2/19/2016 at 3:51 PM

zero_one said "Maybe this wont matter to you but I hear that with the aluminum bodied fords need a ford aluminum certified shop to do the repairs. A buddy of mine has a claim on his new ford and was told it would be two years before they would be able to do it. I guess because there are only a few places in Manitoba certified to do it right now. "

Ive heard that too and I think MPI has something about that in a brochure or on their website somewhere.

M.S.
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M.S.
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Ram
2/19/2016 at 4:49 PM

The ram 1500 Eco diesel from what I have heard is a great little truck and is more fuel efficient then it's gas counter part the v8 hemi

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Also

2/19/2016 at 4:55 PM

Chrismann85 said "

zero_one said "Maybe this wont matter to you but I hear that with the aluminum bodied fords need a ford aluminum certified shop to do the repairs. A buddy of mine has a claim on his new ford and was told it would be two years before they would be able to do it. I guess because there are only a few places in Manitoba certified to do it right now. "

Ive heard that too and I think MPI has something about that in a brochure or on their website somewhere. "

I've heard form a few people the body parts for the new Ford F150`s are really expensive and hard to get. $4000 just to replace a fender and $800 just for one tail light according to an auto body tech who works at a Ford dealer.

Pretty nice truck though from what I have seen, just cant get into a fender bender.

Edited by The_Young_Man, 2016-02-19 17:00:22

Gerald
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Gerald
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my comparisson
2/19/2016 at 4:56 PM

I drive a 2012 gmc extended cab which they don't still offer and for a company truck i have a 2013 f150 ext cab there are basically the same 4x4 ext cabs. I do find the ford is actually smaller in the cab across the front seats then the gmc, and the doors on my gmc open nearly 180 degrees on the rear door which is great however like I said they don't make that model anymore. The last thing i will say is the gmc has a v8 and gets better mileage then the ford which has a v6... Myself I wouldn't hesitate to get the chev or the gmc model truck now the dodge I can't say much about it.. thats my 2 cents worth!
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My boss
2/19/2016 at 5:13 PM

Nemesisngr said "1/2 ton, 4x4 daily commute = Ram 1500 EcoDiesel. "

has one and drives from SE Sask to Edmonton on a tank of diesel about 2x's a month. He had a 2013 Ford Eco Boost and said it was the biggest mistake he ever made. Fuel sucked and the truck was uncomfortable (fully loaded every option truck). That truck lasted 3mths and had 20,000km on it when he got rid of it on his eco-diesel. This is a fully loaded dodge as well, but he did say he was concerned about the towing capacity. He even questions if he could really pull his 30' pontoon boat any real distance. I've never really looked into them, but might be not a good truck if they are towing things? I like the fuel economy though!
bear999
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2/19/2016 at 5:18 PM

Everyone likes one brand for personal reasons. Go take them for a test drive and pick which one you like the best for you. Personally I like ford the best. I have driven all brands as work trucks and personal vehicles.
Twothreethree
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Twothreethree
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Never going to buy another Ford
2/19/2016 at 5:34 PM

I have a Ford Flex and will never buy another Ford again. Took it in for service 4 times in Brandon for the same problem. Now the suv has been in Portage Ford for12 days. 25,000km and the transmission is gone. My last Ford Flex also made many trips for service for the transfer case and transmission. Ford Canada has not been helpful. Way too much fighting needed to get a basically new car fixed. Was a loyal Ford customer having owned 7 between my husband and myself.

I am going to look at a Honda next.
Garret
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Garret
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you
2/19/2016 at 5:48 PM

You can get a 2500 cummins ram for cheaper than 1500 Eco diesel...

My money would be spent on the Chevy. For a gas job comuting truck might as well get the truck that has had no significant changes in a while
Michelle Budiwski

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Michelle Budiwski
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none of the above
2/19/2016 at 8:05 PM

Check out the Tundra. Great service locally at Precision and a fantastic vehicle. Great mileage and in the 9 years I've owned mine, the only thing we've ever had to do on it is the brakes.

I'd never buy anything else!!!
ZachT
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ZachT
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Towing
2/19/2016 at 8:12 PM

What is it that you plan on towing? Maybe a 3/4 ton (250/2500) would be a better option?

I know that I hadn't planned on towing anything when I bought my truck. Now I'm thinking that I may need to upgrade, even though I really like the truck that I have (Chevrolet with a 5.3l).

I really like my Chevy, but would consider going to a Dodge Ram. You would have to pay me to drive a Ford!
rlachowskir
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Sierra
2/19/2016 at 10:10 PM

We have a 1500 Sierra and love it 5.3L gas great on gas tows anything no problem.

Missing in Action
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Missing in Action

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Chev or GMC

2/20/2016 at 8:47 AM

Rider84 said "My husband and I are considering replacing my SUV with a 4X4 half ton but aren't sure which way to go. We are considering:
2015 Chev Silverado 1500 double cab
2015 Dodge Ram 1500 Crew Cab
2015 Ford F-150 XLT Super crew

The truck would be used for daily commuting and occasionally towing. Would love to know the pros and cons of each truck.
Also where have you gotten the best value for your trade? "

I pm you

Son-Rea
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Son-Rea
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Tundra
2/20/2016 at 9:06 AM

Yes consider the Tundra...unless you really need a 3/4 ton or towing. A friend said the only thing he didn't like about his new one was where the phone plugged in. He used to drive a dodge.

When we bought our used truck we drove all types, we weren't stuck on one brand. Some just didn't feel right in the cab...not sure what it was..but we were looking at 3/4 & 1 tons otherwise we probably would've gotten a Tundra...haven't heard anything bad about them yet.
boss hoss
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boss hoss
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Only
2/20/2016 at 10:36 AM

Consider the Ford, Chevy, or Dodge, stay away from the imports, be a part of the solution and not the problem. Besides all those imports are just plain UGLY.
Collie
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Collie
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Attached a chart
2/20/2016 at 10:59 AM

Showing results of truck sales last year. I have argued this for years, but ford can claim to have to top selling truck, but with General Motors essentially having the same truck with 2 labels, the combined sales of Silverados and Sierras are more than ford.
goshdarn
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goshdarn
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depends on what the occasional towing involves
2/20/2016 at 12:33 PM

and what your towing.

if it is past the abilities of the typical SUV which most will be around 3500 lbs then get a truck

but if its a boat a couple times a yr or camper trailer on short hauls, your suv is likely ok

look at the daily drive, as others have posted take them out for a test drive ( over night so you cna see the head light coverage) but do the canadian tire, wal mart parking lot, the tims drive through, parallel park it down town a few times.

if the daily swearing count is high because a truck is too big to wheel around, maybe have a serious talk with yourself it.

i agree a crew cab for family and guest hauling around but they get real big.

A wise friend told me when considering, if you need a truck get a truck, if you don't need a truck, don't get a truck.
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2/20/2016 at 12:58 PM

Also, one you decide on your brand you wish to consider purchasing, shop around at different cities for that same truck. Wont name names, but when I bought my GMC 3500 last spring, I looked at Brandon, then to Virden, and I got more then 3X trade value on my trade in ($23,000 in Virden compared to $7000 in Brandon). A simple trip to another dealership can save you alot sometimes.

thecdnmole
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3x?

2/20/2016 at 1:48 PM

FarmerMike said "Also, one you decide on your brand you wish to consider purchasing, shop around at different cities for that same truck. Wont name names, but when I bought my GMC 3500 last spring, I looked at Brandon, then to Virden, and I got more then 3X trade value on my trade in ($23,000 in Virden compared to $7000 in Brandon). A simple trip to another dealership can save you alot sometimes. "

Wow, that is a lot! Therefore your NET difference probably was less? I've seen that happen, one dealer will give more for your trade, but the net difference is actually more because they inflate the new price.

As mentioned above, be mindful what you buy if used for towing. Be sure to get the specs of the unit your considering because axle ratio and engine size will impact how many pounds can be towed. Also if payload capacity is a concern (5th wheel trailer), then type of truck (regular cab versus crew cab) and options (2wd versus 4wd for eg) will impact payload capacity.

Also as mentioned above, take the units out for a drive as long as possible. One may not "feel" comfortable to you. Shop around to compare prices. I just bought a new Ram and there wasn't much difference on price between dealers as it was a no trade purchase.

Good luck, do some research, do some test drives and have fun!

Btw, Nissan now has a Cummins diesel if your looking for some diesel options.

99
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99
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yea
2/20/2016 at 1:52 PM

I own a Ford 150. It was the best deal by far in terms of price. I have the 5l and with stock tires I got 13.5l per 100km. They were also the best to deal with. I couldn't care less about brand so I'm unbiased. At one of the local dealers no one from chev would talk to me and dodge tried to sell me a beat truck. The only thing I would change is getting 4 door instead of ext, it's a pain in parking lot to get to the back seats. At the end of the day try them all and see what you like the best.
habsfan56
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habsfan56
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Titan XD
2/20/2016 at 5:08 PM

It may not hurt at going to look at the 2016 Titan XD. An entirely new truck top to bottom. With the 5.0 L Cummins you will get better consistent towing than any of the other half tons, plus reliability of a Cummins diesel. Just a thought.
Maxwell_13
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I Agree
2/20/2016 at 6:31 PM

go with The GMC Sierra its great all around
Alrighty then
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Alrighty then
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Had many different trucks
2/20/2016 at 7:29 PM

My first truck was a Tundra. Loved it, very reliable, fun to drive but the fuel mileage was horrible. Didn't pass to may gas stations especially while pulling a camper.
Had a Ford F150 and loved it also. Good fuel mileage, reliable and good trailer towing capabilities.
Next was a Nissan Titan. Piece of junk. The mechanics drove it more than I did. Stay away from a Titan. They are not good trucks.
Next a Dodge Ram. Really liked it but Dodge still can't make good front ends. Lower ball joints had to be replaced with few kilometers and the 5.7 hemi was hard on fuel. Ride was good and quiet on the highway.
Just purchased a 2016 Ford F150 and love it so far. 5.0 liter engine that fir a truck seems to get decent mileage. Very quiet on the highway. Have yet to pull the camper yet.
As far as pricing, Dodge is the cheapest, then Ford, Titan and I think the Titan and Siera/Silverado at at the top of price range.
As previously mentioned, try what you think you'd like. There all fairly similar except I would not buy a Nissan Titan again, just to many issues. All trucks I had were crew cabs except for the Titan which was a super cab. Crew cabs are the way to go with all the interior room that is available especially in the Ford F150.
Good luck with your hunt for a truck.

FarmerMike
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FarmerMike

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2/21/2016 at 12:52 PM

thecdnmole said "

FarmerMike said "Also, one you decide on your brand you wish to consider purchasing, shop around at different cities for that same truck. Wont name names, but when I bought my GMC 3500 last spring, I looked at Brandon, then to Virden, and I got more then 3X trade value on my trade in ($23,000 in Virden compared to $7000 in Brandon). A simple trip to another dealership can save you alot sometimes. "

Wow, that is a lot! Therefore your NET difference probably was less? I've seen that happen, one dealer will give more for your trade, but the net difference is actually more because they inflate the new price.

As mentioned above, be mindful what you buy if used for towing. Be sure to get the specs of the unit your considering because axle ratio and engine size will impact how many pounds can be towed. Also if payload capacity is a concern (5th wheel trailer), then type of truck (regular cab versus crew cab) and options (2wd versus 4wd for eg) will impact payload capacity.

Also as mentioned above, take the units out for a drive as long as possible. One may not "feel" comfortable to you. Shop around to compare prices. I just bought a new Ram and there wasn't much difference on price between dealers as it was a no trade purchase.

Good luck, do some research, do some test drives and have fun!

Btw, Nissan now has a Cummins diesel if your looking for some diesel options. "

You raise a very good point here. Just because one dealership will offer you more money, make absolute sure that you are comparing all aspects of the deal - starting price, dealer discounts and your trade in. A crafty salesman can make it look like your are getting lots for a trade in, but they might have less discounts on that vehicle, therefore costing you more money in the end.

Yes, with mine, I made sure all the numbers were the same, which was fairly easy when it was an order straight from the factory. Base price was set in stone, and the discounts were different at both places but ended up pennies apart. The deal I got in Virden saves me about $330 a month.....HUGE savings.

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Claim

2/21/2016 at 3:10 PM

FarmerMike said "

thecdnmole said "

I think without a lot more info including make/model/year of the vehicle being traded in there are going to be a lot of people that will seriously doubt your claim. I respect your privacy and don't want you to disclose anything you aren't comfortable disclosing since it could be used to obtain a lot of info but I'd have a hard time taking the claim at face value myself without a VIN and perhaps even Carproof report. Simply does not add up for there to be that significant of a spread and so my natural instinct is to want to understand further without sending this thread too off course from its original intent (comparing the vehicles named).

In everything it's worth keeping in mind that as per the link below (2014 but shouldn't have changed that meaningfully), by the time all dust settles the average vehicle sale nets a dealer $1000-2500. For every $1,000,000 in revenue profits were $22,500
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-drive/news/cato-car-dealers-profit--but-not-as-much-as-youd-think/article16188656/?service=mobile