Discussions

That was hardly an attack. Most people are very careful with their dogs and most keep them on leash. Very seldom do I see dogs off leash and if I do they are well behaved and not near children.  
I agree it's not an off leash dog park but your post is highly exaggerated.

When a dog who is not on a leash bites a young child do you still call that exaggerated ? Almost everyone in this area knows whose dog that was . Obviously these were your dogs that were involved today by the sounds of it . It's not a dog park read the signs that are posted and if I see your dog without a leash I will call the bylaw officer immediately .

Sorry you assume wrong. I saw what you referred to and you are very much exaggerating.  
It is tragic that a child was ever biten. Please don't misunderstand me.

Also, please report the facts. There was only 1 dog off leash which is what caused the little dust up that you call an attack. Have a great day! I look forward to seeing you and your family enjoying our lovely park very soon!  
Take care.

First off Lloyd if you read the original post I made I never mentioned once that all three dogs were off the leash . And no you will never see me and my family in that park . You can call it a dust up if you want because they were your dogs but most people would want to stear clear of those kind of confrontations. Like I said if you follow the rules posted by the city then these "dust ups" can be avoided. By the way one of the by law officers lives in this area so you might want to be like most people and follow the rules.

How did you determine that it was Lloyd's dogs?

Skinny Moon said "When a dog who is not on a leash bites a young child do you still call that exaggerated ? Almost everyone in this area knows whose dog that was . Obviously these were your dogs that were involved today by the sounds of it . It's not a dog park read the signs that are posted and if I see your dog without a leash I will call the bylaw officer immediately . "

since when has exaggerated posts and wrongful accusations ever helped a situation?  
If off leash dogs bother you so much then make your phone calls to proper authorities but assumptions and rants WILL NOT solve your "pet" peeve issues

Like I said if I see dogs in this park without a leash I will do my part and call the Bylaw Officer. If you abide by the posted rules then you have nothing to worry about.

As a frequenter of other dog parks, all it takes is one dog that is off leash, to cause havoc with the other on-leash dogs. The dynamics of some off & some on-leash dogs creates problems, no matter how well a person's dogs usually behave.

I wonder if it's the same dog.....about a week and half ago I was walking my 2 dogs, leashed through the park & we/they also got attacked!!!! Thank goodness there were no injuries!!!!

It is not the same dog. My dog is the one who ran out into the walkway a couple weeks back to your two leashed dogs. We were visiting and having a BBQ, he accidentally got out while we were going in and out. Not sure if he felt territorial or your dogs reacted to him running up to them but either way we take responsibility. We don't live in the area, just didn't want my dog blamed. I apologized at the time and glad the barks were worse than the bites.

Hello, I'm just wondering if it against city bylaws to any dogs off leash unless you are at a proper dog park, well behaved or not? The reason I'm asking is if someone should get bit and your dog was not on a leash, and it goes to court, is it not the owners fault? I'm just curious. Thank you.

Pretty sure it states that unless your in your yard that is fenced or a dog park than leashes are needed. The leash must also be worn from vehicle until inside the park. These laws are for both animal and human safety

Yes you are correct.

I just wanted to thank Skinny Moon for raising the obvious. Dogs should be leashed except for designated (off leash) areas. I still maintain that the original post was full of hyperbole and exaggeration, but a read through the other comments confirms that not everyone is unreasonable. Lastly, not my dogs. Thanks!

Well Lloyd you can call me unreasonable or exaggerated or anything you want doesn't really matter to me cause I really don't care. I call it like I see it and in 15 years of living in this park I have seen an awful lot and not just unleashed dogs. My main concern is for the young kids playing in the park some of them have no idea how to handle an unleashed dog when it approaches . There are a lot more ethnic people in the park now with kids that may or may not have ever seen or experienced any dogs in their culture . There is a lady who brings her dogs into the park every day and most times they are never on a leash. She was standing right beside the sign on the pool house today that clearly says "dogs must be on a leash" what do you say to that Lloyd? Is she beyond the rules? Is she better then the people who follow the rules? One of these days with all the little kids and all the leash less dogs there will be a tragedy. I for one would like to prevent it from ever happening.

Hi Skinny Moon,  
Would you please be so kind as to tell us what activities are OK with you to do in Riverheights park? I understand that you're against softball and other activities as well?  
Kindly explain what is allowed for everyone's benefit.  
Thank you.

LloydMosby said "Hi Skinny Moon,   Would you please be so kind as to tell us what activities are OK with you to do in Riverheights park? I understand that you're against softball and other activities as well?   Kindly explain what is allowed for everyone's benefit.   Thank you. "

I second that ...  
 
Edited by Gunz, 2017-05-25 12:56:12

Skinny Moon said "Well Lloyd you can call me unreasonable or exaggerated or anything you want doesn't really matter to me cause I really don't care. I call it like I see it and in 15 years of living in this park I have seen an awful lot and not just unleashed dogs. My main concern is for the young kids playing in the park some of them have no idea how to handle an unleashed dog when it approaches . There are a lot more ethnic people in the park now with kids that may or may not have ever seen or experienced any dogs in their culture . There is a lady who brings her dogs into the park every day and most times they are never on a leash. She was standing right beside the sign on the pool house today that clearly says "dogs must be on a leash" what do you say to that Lloyd? Is she beyond the rules? Is she better then the people who follow the rules? One of these days with all the little kids and all the leash less dogs there will be a tragedy. I for one would like to prevent it from ever happening. "

ethnic is a label commonly used to describe people of color and their cultures. When we’re talking about people who are of Asian, Latinx, or Middle Eastern descent, we call them “ethnic.” And when we’re looking for something other than typical American food for dinner, we say we want “something ethnic.”  
 
So what about white people? Why aren’t they considered ethnic?  
 
Here’s the thing: An ethnic group is a category of people who identify with each other based on things like a common language, religion, ancestral location, and history.  
 
So if you think about it, all people, including white people, are ethnic. Because all people identify in some way with a location, language, religion, and/or history.  
 
Ethnicity is often used interchangeably with words like race and nationality. And while those may inform someone’s ethnicity, they’re not strictly the same thing. Race is a social construct that groups people by their physical characteristics, such as skin color. Nationality is your status of belonging to a particular nation, whether that’s by birth or naturalization.  
 
When a white person self-identifies as white, they’re describing themselves by their race alone. Their ethnicity could be English or German, and their nationality could be American.  
 
 
Keep your dogs on a leash fellas ...

Good grief Lloyd are you serious? This thread has been closed for a couple of weeks and yet you still want to dig it up and fight . Plus now you're making stuff up . Do you think you know me because obviously you don't ? Banning softball ? I am in that park every year at least once or twice with my neighbours kids playing ball . When they used to have pick up games here I played and hit three or four home runs into the neighbours yard over the fence. That particular neighbour back then is the one who stopped the softball by phoning the city . I still play softball and every other sport so obviously you don't have a clue who I am so please don't make up stuff . Just do what 90% of the rest of the park does and follow the rules .

I appreciate you clearing that up. I wrongly assumed it was you that made it impossible to play softball. I don't know you. I assumed wrongly.

This is the last thing I will say on this thread. First off I don't have a problem with dogs . I love them. I have two small dogs right now but will never walk them in this park for fear of encountering an unleashed dog or two for that matter. There are certain breeds of dogs that don't always get along . I would be helpless if an unleashed dog comes charging my way. It's not the dogs that cause the problem . They can't read the signs. It's the owners and I know they have read them. Have a nice day all.

It's the rule. It's the law.  
Animal Control can be contacted via BPS.  
204-729-2345. Push 0.

I have been reading this thread since it started and I agree to some parts of both sides... Until ethnicity was involved and then finding out the other person complaining contributed to other problems the park is having. Here's a thought. Everyone mind their own business. So a child got a scratch on the hand and a neighbour almost had their window smashed by a good hit with a ball and so I hear there was a dog fight once. Guess what. Dogs are animals no matter how well trained they are. It's in there blood. One might have felt the need to show dominance. I do agree with the leashing of animals and cleaning up after them. How ever. If I showed up with my dog and saw no one around I would have no issue letting him off to throw a ball and let him run. Maybe it was quiet at the time so felt no worry. Maybe a kid got loose from the parents not paying attention. How we have seen oh so often all over the news. and surprised the dog. Had the dog wanted to the hand would be gone. Not just a scratch. That right there shows it is a well trained dog. And don't even try to tell me a well trained doesn't nip at a stranger. Some dogs like kids some don't some like men some don't so on and so forth. So many different circumstances could have occurred. I could go on for hours of possible outcomes of how things could be bad or good. For some. But mostly two of you. Ever think timing and what benefits you at such time seemed like a good time to either be playing with your dog then all of a sudden seeing another dog so stood at your window until you saw something to complain about. Mind your own business and everyone will be happy.

I have been reading this thread since it started and I agree to some parts of both sides... Until ethnicity was involved and then finding out the other person complaining contributed to other problems the park is having. Here's a thought. Everyone mind their own business. So a child got a scratch on the hand and a neighbour almost had their window smashed by a good hit with a ball and so I hear there was a dog fight once. Guess what. Dogs are animals no matter how well trained they are. It's in there blood. One might have felt the need to show dominance. I do agree with the leashing of animals and cleaning up after them. How ever. If I showed up with my dog and saw no one around I would have no issue letting him off to throw a ball and let him run. Maybe it was quiet at the time so felt no worry. Maybe a kid got loose from the parents not paying attention. How we have seen oh so often all over the news. and surprised the dog. Had the dog wanted to the hand would be gone. Not just a scratch. That right there shows it is a well trained dog. And don't even try to tell me a well trained doesn't nip at a stranger. Some dogs like kids some don't some like men some don't so on and so forth. So many different circumstances could have occurred. I could go on for hours of possible outcomes of how things could be bad or good. For some. But mostly two of you. Ever think timing and what benefits you at such time seemed like a good time to either be playing with your dog then all of a sudden seeing another dog so stood at your window until you saw something to complain about. Mind your own business and everyone will be happy.

Yeah but you still can't take the leash off. What if you throw that ball and kids coming walking around the corner. You just said do that are animals and will show their dominance. It can happen.

"May be a kid got loose from parents not paying attention."!!?? What you mean. No parents leash their kids, PARKS ARE FOR KIDS TO PLAY FREELY. If you are so much fanatic of leaving your dog 'unleashed' and if no one's kid should 'get loose from un-attending parents', well, as a parent,this is my business now. Take your animals to dog parks, I won't send my kids there, but in kids' parks mind your own pets with a leash.

Maybe you should all just keep both kids and dogs on leashes. Problem solved.

no I think the parents should be on leashes if anything. and close down the park. close off all the entrances and put your Costco in there. probably not enough room though.