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I'm curious if anyone knows what time they can work until doing rail ties? It is after 10 PM and in a residential area. It is kind of hard to put kids to bed with all the noise!

They work all night when it is cool, with the continuous welded steel (long rails)there is a danger of sun kinks (warping of the tracks) because of the heat of the sun, which is a big problem to fix, the work they are doing disturbs the track bed, so they have found to get it done safely and economically they work at night, they have been doing this for a few years now  
 
Edited by Midway55, 2015-08-21 22:16:03

They have to follow the regular by laws of  
Each area. I would call and check with the by laws just in case there is allowances for the railway...

Wam22 said "They have to follow the regular by laws of   Each area. I would call and check with the by laws just in case there is allowances for the railway... "

Railway does whatever they want and when they want it - they not bound by any noise by law. I did complain to my city counselor about rail building trains in residential areas all night shunting and jamming cars together and basically got told by counselor that there is nothing else they can do than friendly ask because the city police and bylaw has no jurisdiction ....... pretty sad if you ask me - and you will get that lame argument from some on here that the rail was here first ......

It's not really a lame argument, don't buy a house near the railroad if you can't handle the noise. I could sleep through anything, so buying a house near a railroad wouldn't matter to me. When there's no trains they work, when there's trains they can't. Would you rather them stop trains for long periods of time to fix the track (which is very costly) or have them have a derailment in town?

mrsj said "I'm curious if anyone knows what time they can work until doing rail ties? It is after 10 PM and in a residential area. It is kind of hard to put kids to bed with all the noise! "

The noise bylaw applies 24 hours a day 7 days a week, there is no "quiet" time.

Under PART II: PROHIBITED NOISES  
 
(f) the sound emanating from excavation or construction work of any nature between  
2200 hours of any day and 0700 hours of the next following day (10:00 p.m. - 7:00 a.m.), except in such locations where such conduct is permitted by applicable land use provisions, or where authorized by the Chief of Police:  
 
I think the railway may have no restrictions because of the "permitted by applicable land use provisions" part of this section.  
 
Edited by Bob43, 2015-08-22 09:52:53

We would complain if the work was done during the day. We would complain if it wasn't done at all. Sure it's annoying that it's being done at night, but we need the job done right as opposed to doing it a different time and wasting resources. Safer for all those involved

Rail is on federal land so sadly I'm not sure if they can or can't be regulated by city.  
 
As for heat etc....it doesn't matter. Once they weld it the perform destressing where they do complex calculations and make cuts to account for expansion etc......although I've seen them get it wrong lol.  
 
They will work at night, run trains during day or other way around to allow each freedom and planning. In summer they would normally actually run trains at night as heat can create slow orders where they have to go slower......not exactly hot now tho lol. Also have to consider impact of lack of light on SOME work. Lights r lights I don't care what anyone says daylight will always be daylight.  
 
On the plus side they are uograding this line which desperately needs it and will be safer because of it. Traffic has increased on it and will continue to increase.

mrsj said "I'm curious if anyone knows what time they can work until doing rail ties? It is after 10 PM and in a residential area. It is kind of hard to put kids to bed with all the noise! "

Not sure if the kids slept at all. It's just part of living, noises and work that has to be kept going. The more important thing is tucking them in and explaining it might be noisy for a bit. Chances are they drifted off and never thought anything of it.  
 
Children will survive. I say this in a nice way.

Jeeper said "It's not really a lame argument, don't buy a house near the railroad if you can't handle the noise. I could sleep through anything, so buying a house near a railroad wouldn't matter to me. When there's no trains they work, when there's trains they can't. Would you rather them stop trains for long periods of time to fix the track (which is very costly) or have them have a derailment in town? "

It is a very lame argument - residents in the north end are not complaining about the trains running. It is the trains being built in residential areas and if you still say it's not lame how about every time they extend the train length they take their yard as far out as they extend it - then we wouldn't have this discussion and the 26th street wouldn't be blocked all the time either - so yes the rail was here first and yes we bought property here and NO I didn't know that the city by laws would not apply or be enforced

I heard them working at about 3:30am, I rolled over and went back to sleep. Thank goodness I don't live that close to the tracks. I pitty the people who live right beside the CN tracks.

the by-law has nothing to do with it. The legal term is Paramouncy. The feds have jurisdiction over railways, not the province or their creations municipalities. Now, in reality provincial law (and municipal, also in terms of paramouncy) can apply to railways if it has nothing to do with the operation of the railway. Repairing the railway likely is part of that, so unless there are federal rules regarding noise, then tough beans.

3wildboyz said "Rail is on federal land so sadly I'm not sure if they can or can't be regulated by city.     As for heat etc....it doesn't matter. Once they weld it the perform destressing where they do complex calculations and make cuts to account for expansion etc......although I've seen them get it wrong lol.     They will work at night, run trains during day or other way around to allow each freedom and planning. In summer they would normally actually run trains at night as heat can create slow orders where they have to go slower......not exactly hot now tho lol. Also have to consider impact of lack of light on SOME work. Lights r lights I don't care what anyone says daylight will always be daylight.     On the plus side they are uograding this line which desperately needs it and will be safer because of it. Traffic has increased on it and will continue to increase. "

people in the west end were complaining about the train whistles/horns and went to city council.  
 
City council if I remember correctly was able to force them to stop. Anyone else remember?  
 
Anyway, people can get used to the noise, it's like living on Victoria avenue.  
 
One winter the crew was out on the rails using a jack hammer after ten at night. Did that piss me off? Damn right it did! I followed up and their boss told me that there was no order to do such a thing that day.  
 
Do you know the noise created by jack hammers on steel rails??

some wonder why road work isn't done at night in the city? Could you imagine the complaints on here if crews did Victoria Ave at night.

I think we should just be glad they are doing the repairs. What would your opinion be if there was a rail accident like there was in Quebec? The CN rail that they are fixing and the one people are complaining about, goes to Simplot and God knows what dangerous chemicals are in those tanker cars as they roll through town. Just be glad people that they are doing the repairs, its only temporary. Just my opinion.

A precious snowflake is no different than most. Let them know about rail work and why and how people work off hours as it's their job. I don't think they give a care. Unless you've walked in that rail job, there should be no concern. Just like if you put railroad employees wherever you work. Really? Kids can't get to sleep?  
 
Good time to teach them about the railway in Canada and what they do.  
 
*not a railway employee

Johnbisonbear said "    3wildboyz said "Rail is on federal land so sadly I'm not sure if they can or can't be regulated by city.     As for heat etc....it doesn't matter. Once they weld it the perform destressing where they do complex calculations and make cuts to account for expansion etc......although I've seen them get it wrong lol.     They will work at night, run trains during day or other way around to allow each freedom and planning. In summer they would normally actually run trains at night as heat can create slow orders where they have to go slower......not exactly hot now tho lol. Also have to consider impact of lack of light on SOME work. Lights r lights I don't care what anyone says daylight will always be daylight.     On the plus side they are uograding this line which desperately needs it and will be safer because of it. Traffic has increased on it and will continue to increase. " people in the west end were complaining about the train whistles/horns and went to city council.     City council if I remember correctly was able to force them to stop. Anyone else remember?     Anyway, people can get used to the noise, it's like living on Victoria avenue.     One winter the crew was out on the rails using a jack hammer after ten at night. Did that piss me off? Damn right it did! I followed up and their boss told me that there was no order to do such a thing that day.     Do you know the noise created by jack hammers on steel rails?? "

If I remember correctly the city had to take out liability insurance for anything that could happen as a result of them not blowing the horn at the crossing

Thanks to everyone who offered a *helpful* response to a valid question.  
 
Mother Nature ended up calling it an early night for the workers.  
 
As for all of the sanctimonious replies? Thanks for reminding me that everything can and will be a judgemental argument here on eBrandon. *thumbs up*  
 

Trevor B said "some wonder why road work isn't done at night in the city? Could you imagine the complaints on here if crews did Victoria Ave at night. "

is done at night While it can be noisy most of us are happy when it is done!

I'm referring to other road construction work, like the work they just did last year and this year on Victoria Ave.

Trevor B said "I'm referring to other road construction work, like the work they just did last year and this year on Victoria Ave. "

the kind of work where it is imperative to be able to see in the light of day?

Jobs that disrupts travel and some figure it should be done at night. Well if you get big spot lights, you can see what your doing.

Trevor B said "Jobs that disrupts travel and some figure it should be done at night. Well if you get big spot lights, you can see what your doing. "

Went through Toronto one year at night and they had constructions crews working. Least amount of traffic, cooler working conditions, still good visibility as it was lit up where they needed.