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The amount of meth and heroine etc in this city nowadays is insane. So assuming the "drug" that they were influenced by was marijuana is quite a shot in the dark. I personally would be a lot more worried if someone was on hard drugs than marijuana...

a link for all to peruse through regarding marijuana and it's effect on driving ability.  
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2722956/  
Pick and choose whatever para defends your argument. I like 3.1 (Cognitive studies). Basicly states that marijuana use affect response time and judgement. The more grams you smoke the more the cognitive response will be screwed. I agree that other drugs pose a bigger threat to a person's ability to drive, but consider that when canabis is used in conjunction with alcool then the effects of both are multiplied, at least that's what I got from the article. While canabis use maybe and likely was not a factor in this crash, canabis is known to affect ones cognitive abilities behind the wheel. I got the feeling earlier on this thread from posters that marijuana and driving was ok and could never had been a factor in such a crash. Maybe I read it wrong and if so I apologize, but in no way do I believe that we should just shrug our shoulders and say that marijuana users don't pose a threat while driving high.Also to say that "we should worry more about the drivers on hard core drugs that MJ" is correct, but does not make driving under the influence of MJ right. That statement would be similar to saying that we should worry more about drivers with blood alcool above .2 than those with blood alcool of .1. They're both impaired in both cases and both a risk to the driving public IMO.

We can go back and forth all day on the effects of Marijuana. But for others to say on here we will have more accidents like this one is a far cry from reality. The studies I have read all say that those on marijuana know so and thus slow down to compensate. You won't find someone doing 100+ in town high on pot. You will probably find them doing about 20 under the speed limit and getting paranoid on every crown vic that goes by thinking it was a police officer lol.  
 
http://norml.org/library/item/marijuana-and-driving-a-review-of-the-scientific-evidence

Fishin Guy said "We can go back and forth all day on the effects of Marijuana. But for others to say on here we will have more accidents like this one is a far cry from reality. The studies I have read all say that those on marijuana know so and thus slow down to compensate. You won't find someone doing 100+ in town high on pot. You will probably find them doing about 20 under the speed limit and getting paranoid on every crown vic that goes by thinking it was a police officer lol.     http://norml.org/library/item/marijuana-and-driving-a-review-of-the-scientific-evidence "

great! that's what we need more of in Brandon! lol  
 
You think drivers high on MJ won't be a hazard, I say that the drivers will be relaxed and too slow to hit the brakes for pedestrians and those few people who choose to rides bikes on sidewalks and ride hell bent across intersections

Fishin Guy said "We can go back and forth all day on the effects of Marijuana. But for others to say on here we will have more accidents like this one is a far cry from reality. The studies I have read all say that those on marijuana know so and thus slow down to compensate. You won't find someone doing 100+ in town high on pot. You will probably find them doing about 20 under the speed limit and getting paranoid on every crown vic that goes by thinking it was a police officer lol.     http://norml.org/library/item/marijuana-and-driving-a-review-of-the-scientific-evidence "

All mj users with the same brush are we? So mj users (all of them from what you say) know to compensate their impaired state by reducing their speed accordingly. Wow! I would believe you if you said that probably most mj users will be be smart enough to compensate speed because of impairement. I may believe that to a certain extent. To be clear, I don't believe that one joint would necessarily impair a driver to the point where they're unable to drive. Same goes for someone that drives after one beer for example and I do know that some look for only 0% alcool blood level as acceptable, but I am not in that camp and same for mj use.How many mj's can one smoke and still drive responsibly? I don't know and it probably varies from user to user. However, to take your example of someone becoming paranoid because of mj consumption and driving. IMO at that point they're impaired to a level where driving should be considered a criminal offense. I know I'll offend many here but impairment from mj should be treated the same as impairment from alcool.

Midway55 said "    Hey! said "Brandon is Manitoba's second largest city. Perhaps someday our hospital will be good enough so people don't have to be flown to Winnipeg. " Simple economics trauma specialist will go where they can make the most money get the most experience, bigger the city more difficult cases more experience increasing their value and prestige , 40 thousand vs 700 thousand no comparison more people more accidents emergency's more dollars. "

40,000 ? ?  
Brandon is 50,000 +  
Still not big enough granted. ..

70`s guy said "    Fishin Guy said "We can go back and forth all day on the effects of Marijuana. But for others to say on here we will have more accidents like this one is a far cry from reality. The studies I have read all say that those on marijuana know so and thus slow down to compensate. You won't find someone doing 100+ in town high on pot. You will probably find them doing about 20 under the speed limit and getting paranoid on every crown vic that goes by thinking it was a police officer lol.     http://norml.org/library/item/marijuana-and-driving-a-review-of-the-scientific-evidence " All mj users with the same brush are we? So mj users (all of them from what you say) know to compensate their impaired state by reducing their speed accordingly. Wow! I would believe you if you said that probably most mj users will be be smart enough to compensate speed because of impairement. I may believe that to a certain extent. To be clear, I don't believe that one joint would necessarily impair a driver to the point where they're unable to drive. Same goes for someone that drives after one beer for example and I do know that some look for only 0% alcool blood level as acceptable, but I am not in that camp and same for mj use.How many mj's can one smoke and still drive responsibly? I don't know and it probably varies from user to user. However, to take your example of someone becoming paranoid because of mj consumption and driving. IMO at that point they're impaired to a level where driving should be considered a criminal offense. I know I'll offend many here but impairment from mj should be treated the same as impairment from alcool. "

To clear the air here... I am only taking what I am reading and putting it into my own context. Here let me copy and paste from the link so I am not painting nobody or saying crap to be taken the wrong way. This is what the studies have found. Take it how you want.  
 
"Nevertheless, this impairment does not appear to play a significant role in on-road traffic accidents. A 2002 review of seven separate studies involving 7,934 drivers reported, “Crash culpability studies have failed to demonstrate that drivers with cannabinoids in the blood are significantly more likely than drug-free drivers to be culpable in road crashes.” This result is likely because subject under the influence of marijuana are aware of their impairment and compensate for it accordingly, such as by slowing down and by focusing their attention when they know a response will be required. This reaction is just the opposite of that exhibited by drivers under the influence of alcohol, who tend to drive in a more risky manner proportional to their intoxication."  
 
And.....  
"Today, a large body of research exists exploring the impact of marijuana on psychomotor skills and actual driving performance. This research consists of driving simulator studies, on-road performance studies, crash culpability studies, and summary reviews of the existing evidence. To date, the result of this research is fairly consistent: Marijuana has a measurable yet relatively mild effect on psychomotor skills, yet it does not appear to play a significant role in vehicle crashes, particularly when compared to alcohol."  
 
Take it how you want. If you already have a negative opinion about marijuana nothing would change your mind anyway and honestly I could really care less. But for people to say were are going to see major auto crashes once it becomes legalized should maybe do some more research.

I also found this on your sites main page.  
 
Policy debates regarding marijuana-law reform invariably raise the issue of marijuana and driving. This is a valid concern. In fact, NORML's own "Principles of Responsible Cannabis Use" invoke a "no driving" clause, stating: "Although cannabis is said by most experts to be safer than alcohol and many pres:cription drugs with motorists, responsible cannabis consumers never operate motor vehicles in an impaired condition."  
 
Nevertheless, concerns regarding doped driving should not be an impediment to marijuana-law reform. Alcohol is legal in America, yet every state maintains tough laws punishing those who choose to drive impaired by it. There is no reason why similar principles should not regulate cannabis consumption.

Are way off topic here and I do apologize Adam, but have to answer. Like I said earlier you can take what you want from my earlier link and you''ll probably find substance for your argument. Fishing guy, please understand that paras and comments referring to cannabis not affecting driving ability by users never mentions the amount of mj that drivers injested before undergoing further exams. It nay well be that all tests were performed after individuals had injested the equivalent of perhaps 1 joint. Who knows for sure because they don''t specify, it''s all pretty vague! My argument is that you could expose an individual that is a routine drinker to "one" beer and have him do the exact same test as the mj exposed individual did and pass with flying colours! Theoreticaly he would be under the influence and still pass all tests with flying colours and the results would be announced as "Alcool impaired" individual showed no signs of driving limitations or hazards. This is what I feel that the MJ induced driving tests reveal. No real limitations when impaired. What is impaired though? One, two or three joints worth of mj? If the tests were conducted with only one joint consumed then yes I agree that mj is not an issue on the road. However, I''d like to see results were mj users have consumed 2 to 3 grams and ask to undergo a driving test. Would drivers be able to adjust their driving as my earlier linkn would indicate or would they be a hazard to all other drivers on the roads. One thing for sure though is that the more you injest, the more your congnitive abilities suffer. How much is too much? Not sur!  
 
Edited by 70`s guy, 2017-10-07 01:57:43