Nice Guys Suck
7/8/2009 at 1:30 PM
The FIRST thing that pops into my mind when I read this forum is NICE GUYS SUCK!
Here is why...
“He doesn't get it.”
That's it.
He doesn't get it.
If he did, he wouldn't post in eBrandon's "relationship forum" on why he can't find a "nice girl".
I know, I know. I'm a logical genius.
Shut up.
But stay with me here...
But I really believe that they all have the same basic PROBLEM.
They're running up against totally different challenges, but I believe that if they all understood a few keys about women and ATTRACTION, everything would change for EACH of them.
So let's talk about those key things.
Here are a few of my key ideas:
1) ATTRACTION Isn't A Choice.
2) Women don't feel ATTRACTION for “nice” guys who kiss their ass or kiss up to them.
3) If you don't GET how ATTRACTION works, then it almost doesn't matter WHAT you do. Nothing will work.
4) If you DO get how ATTRACTION works, then you can do almost ANYTHING, and it will work for you.
Let's take 'em one at a time...
ATTRACTION ISN'T A CHOICE
Women don't “choose” to feel ATTRACTION.
BANG! It just happens.
And let me ask you something.
Do you think that the mechanism that causes women to feel ATTRACTION... the one that has evolved over millions of years... before language, before MTV, before you learned how to kiss women's asses... is LOGICAL?
Here's a hint:
No.
The bottom line is that if you interact with a woman long enough that she forms an “impression” of you, and she doesn't “feel it” for you, then you're done.
It's over.
And no amount of chasing her around, buying her things, and being “nice” is going to do the trick.
It's NOT a CHOICE, man!
WOMEN DON'T FEEL ATTRACTION FOR “NICE” GUYS WHO KISS UP TO THEM! GET IT?!
You already know... DUH.
Now I'm going to ask YOU a question...
WHY are you BEING nice in the FIRST place?
Right, right.
It's because you WANT something.
“Oh, no”, you argue...
“It's because I'm a NICE GUY.”
Or maybe you think that you were born this way... to be “nice”.
Or maybe you've even convinced yourself that it's the “right” thing to do.
Well, it's really pretty funny that the answer is staring you right in the face.
You keep proving to yourself over and over and OVER again that NICE DOESN'T WORK.
By the way before you reply to me and say “I don't want to use the things you teach because I don't like the idea of MANIPULATING women”.
Then I ask “Do you buy women dinner, or take them out?”.
Of course, the answer is always “Yes”.
I ask “Why?”.
But I already know the answer...
IT'S TO MANIPULATE WOMEN.
Yep. And then the same guy says “Yea, but THAT'S DIFFERENT”.
OK, before I get too far off track here, let's just summarize and say that it is EASY to be "“too nice”.
And it REALLY screws up your chances with women when you are.
Women are NEVER attracted to WUSSIES.
“Overly nice” equals “Wussy”.
Remember that.
IF YOU DON'T “GET” HOW ATTRACTION WORKS, THEN IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU DO. NOTHING WILL WORK.
Think about the concept of ATTRACTION for a moment.
What is it?
Is it important?
Is it the same for men and women?
Do you KNOW how it works for women?
Have you ever taken the time to LEARN how it works for women?
Have you ever CARED how it works for women?
Are you guilty of spending more time thinking about what you're going to leave on your outgoing voicemail message than thinking about this topic?
Well, let's get something straight...
MOST men, and I'm talking about 95% of them, have NO IDEA how or why women feel that amazing emotion called ATTRACTION for some men.
And if they DO have an idea, it's usually DEAD WRONG.
All most guys know is that women don't feel ATTRACTION for THEM.
It's obvious that most men posting in this forum on here haven't a clue about how and why women feel ATTRACTION.
Notice that they all seem to be focusing on what they're DOING, rather than what they KNOW.
“I'm a long haul trucker but a really nice guy and I respect women and treat them like gold..”
WHO CARES! You still don't get it buddy.
“I sent her an email, but that didn't work...”
“I'm a nice guy, but that doesn't work...”
Can you see it?
THEY DON'T GET IT.
IF YOU DO GET HOW ATTRACTION WORKS THEN ALMOST ANYTHING WILL WORK...
Here's the interesting part of all of this.
If you will take the time to LEARN how and why women feel that interesting and magical emotional response called ATTRACTION for some rare men, and not for ALL THE OTHER men running around, then EVERYTHING changes.
Here are a few interesting points...
There are a few physical cues, or specific types of “body language” that instantly tell a woman whether or not you're a guy that is even worth a SECOND GLANCE...
If you don't know what these things are, and how to use them, then the game will be over before it has even started.
Scary.
Women test men CONSTANTLY.
And ATTRACTIVE women test men MUCH MORE INTENSELY than “regular” women.
If you don't know how to spot these tests (and most of them are very subtle), and then deal with them, you're going to lose your chance to create ATTRACTION before you even GET it.
Being “nice” isn't the way. FORGET NICE!
If you want to chase a woman around for six months, buy her tons of gifts, take her on a bunch of expensive dates, and HOPE for a chance to have her as your girlfriend, then keep doing what you've always done.
This is the PRIMARY way that men approach the topic of “women and dating”.
I'd say that, on average, if you're REALLY REALLY NICE, and you buy her lots of extra-nice stuff, and take a woman on at least 20 dates over a 3-month time period, that you'll have about a 10% chance of her “falling for you”.
That's just a guess.
But it's probably pretty accurate.
On the OTHER hand, if you want to be the kind of guy that has women FLIRTING with you within MINUTES of talking to them, then you're going to need to do something else ENTIRELY.
And if you want to be the kind of guy that actually has so many options, so many dates, and so many women interested in him that you just can't take all their calls, then you're going to need a COMPLETE OVERHALL in your thinking, behavior, and perspective.
Yes, it can be done, but “nice” isn't the way to do it.
Here's the irony:
Women DON'T WANT WUSSIES!
No no no!
Women are looking for MEN.
You know, a MAN?
I have a theory...
I think so many women are turning into lesbians because even WOMEN have more balls these days than most men.
You probably think I'm joking...
OK, so what should us guys do to:
1) Stop being “too nice”...
2) Learn how ATTRACTION works for women...
3) Meet and date more women successfully...
NOW THOSE are some GREAT ideas Doc. Love!
Step 1 is to OPEN YOUR MIND to a new way of seeing things.
I watched my buddy who was REALLY successful with women for a LONG TIME... with my OWN TWO EYES... before I started to actually SEE what was going on.
And at first it just plain didn't make sense AT ALL.
But once I began to understand it, everything came together in a “blinding flash of the obvious”.
Next, you need to realize that “nice” and ATTRACTION are two different things.
And they're NOT related.
Finally, you need to GET AN EDUCATION about this topic.
It amazes me that a man will go to college, spend a hundred grand OR MORE, and feel satisfied walking out of that educational experience STILL not having learned how to be successful with women.
Amazing.
It amazes me EVEN MORE that guys don't make the decision to actually LEARN this stuff.
Blows my mind.
Now, I've spent OVER five years studying on this particular topic.
It took me a good 2+ years just to BEGIN to get a handle on what was going on.
It took me another year or so, AFTER I started to understand, to actually get GOOD.
What's the result?
I can get ANY WOMAN I want. Serious! You wanna bet tough guy??? HA!
Hope this helps. If you have QUESTIONS let me know I will HELP you out and get you some chicks! BUT you gotta be willing to try and fail and try again!
LOVE is an ART!
Dr. Love