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I am not going to rehash points already stated by other posters. It is already covered...but I want to post that I agree with Traveller who finally brought up an important point. Not all vehicles can handle the same conditions, even with the proper tires.  
 
We had a van (not a fan of vans). I had to drive quite slow on gravel, ice, & snow. Slower than I wanted to, but it is all that that vehicle could handle. I knew that through experience by learning it's "feel". I could certainly feel the road with it and needed to go slower than most other vehicles on gravel (I am from the country btw and know gravel).  
 
It did not handle as nicely as the next vehicle we bought, which had a smooth ride and less harsh feel of the road. I gave it time and learned what its "feel" and "sound" was. I can drive faster with it, as it handles better, but I do not drive overconfidently. That is always a recipe for disaster. It also has 4x4...that doesn't mean that it can drive faster in bad conditions either as some seem to think out there. I am aware that the feel of the new vehicle is not the same as the old and that I could easily misread conditions.  
 
I have sped up on gravel with the new one as it handles better...still being mindful, but still do test the roads for ice/snow so that I know what I am dealing with and adjust accordingly. I also watch the traffic movement and take that into consideration. I may not always appreciate it, but do respect those who might have to drive a vehicle like what I used to have. Driving isn't all about ME. Something that handles great (or has 4x4) in those same conditions does not give me (or anyone else) license to drive recklessly.  
 
Another thought...be mindful and courteous of others. There will always be slow vehicles. Posting here, expressing road rage and complaining in general won't change that. You do not know why the vehicle is slow...maybe they just started having mechanical issues (lovely van) or there is some other reason that just appeared while on the road and they are just trying to get home. You just don't know. Maybe the road really IS that bad. It might be time to reconsider your speed as things do change.  
 
I would rather not hear about accidents but instead hear that in spite of conditions (and slow vehicles), everyone has arrived safely at their respective destinations.

you are right, i had a truck that was terrible in the snow even with the best tires, other vehicles i could barely get to skid if i wanted to  
 
id also like to add while 4x4 and height allows you to go threw more stuff, you still have the same breaking power as any vehicle, 4 sets of breaks is 4 sets of breaks lol

RCMP reported, and showed the video, on their Facebook page of a cop talking to someone they pulled over going 128 in the middle of the blizzard, you have to be crazy to do that in the weather we have been having. The cop pulled a Don Cherry throwing his arms up in the air lol. They must see a lot of crazy stuff during their work day!!!

I live out of town and I'm one of the ones that will drive 50-60 on the highway if that's what makes me feel safe when the roads are icy. Last year I was driving to work one day and hit a patch of ice and spun around into the opposite ditch which was very steep. I had my young toddler in the car with me. It was terrifying . I now have a new baby and I will drive slow if that means keeping my kids safe. If people want to go faster then pass me. I will usually slow down and let them pass me . I try not to travel when the roads are icy or snow covered but sometimes I need to go and get groceries or diapers etc .

I drive 10 south of Brandon and if I drive the speed limit everyone tries to pass. They ride your bumper and weave in and out behind you but when you get to the first lights at Brandon they are sitting right beside you after they passed you miles before.If you drive 10 above speed limit they still just have to pass.

So True! There must be a drivers handbook just for those "special" very important people that the rest of us are not entitled to!  
That being said I'd rather be the regular sort of person that I am. I kind of value my life & those around me. Especially loved ones.  
If I'm driving at the speed that I'm comfortable with & know that my car is not starting to move around on that slippery Hwy it means that I have somewhere I've got to be too! Usually home to my family in the next town! Otherwise I stay off that crazy racetrack!!  
When you "entitled" people get up in my business & your very bright new headlights are shining in all my reflective surfaces in my car- I can't frikken see! Thus making me more nervous! Also if you stopped for even a moment of your self important thoughts you might just back off until you can safely pass me. Then everyone goes on their merry way.  
I've gone flying into the ditch! It's scary! & that was in our 4x4 truck with big winter tires on it. The A-hole that I was worried about running into as I'm hurling out of control didn't even stop to see if I was ok!  
Just proves- does not matter what your driving- it's who is driving it! Idiots will be idiots & caring normal folks will always be the cause of these idiots bad luck!  
Have a safe winter to all the normal people out there!

I find it rather funny that those that drive slow are calling those that drice faster entitled, for its both types of people in my mind. Driving to fast for road conditions and driving to slow for road conditions are both dangerous. I live out of Brandon but travel 5 days a week for work. I don't want to get into an accident or hit the ditch, or a deer etc. I also don't want anyone else to get into an accident, hit the ditch or a deer. I am a nervous driver on ice, always have been. Add to it, my current vehicle even with studded tires sucks on ice. Last week after the highways were opened I just could not get traction. So I went through the thought process that I go through every time road conditions are not ideal...am I causing a hazard by being on the road and n it being able to keep up with traffic. Last week I turned around and went home, I was easily only able to get traction at 30 km per hour less than most of the traffic. I at that speed was a bigger hazard than the road conditions. If I am able to mainly keep up with traffic then I typically stay on the road and get to work. Last week after turning around I tried later in the morning. I was able to get in without being the hazard. But there were many hazards driving, both way to fast and one way to slow. 30 kms an hour on the transcanada highway is not safe. Not even kind of. By the same token, based on the ice on the road, 110 km per hour was not safe either. I wish common sense was still common!

I do know that at times tickets are issued for vehicles that are driving to slow when road conditions are perfect, but wonder if driving to slow, reguardless of road conditions, is considered unsafe if the vehicle has it's hazard lights on. More and more I am noticing that many large trucks are putting there hazards on any time that their speed is reduced, whether it is a steep grade or even where they enter the stream of traffic and haven't reached road speed.  
Biggest problem with the whole discussion on to fast for the conditions, comes down to the individuals idea if what is to fast. We have hazard lights on our vehicles for a reason, and this is just my opinion, but if you are driving at a speed that is below the speed of the traffic flow, one should maybe consider having their flashers on. There will likely still be those who think that those who choose to drive, at what they consider a safe speed, should not be on the road, but would that apply to large trucks or those hauling oversized loads at a reduced speed.  
Just about every problem has a simple answer, but only if people stop and realize that we all have different ideas what constitutes a safe speed.

In todays current condition, where most major streets are plowed in the city. There is absolute no reason to be driving 20-30km/h. People should stay home if they are going to drive that slow.

I see a lot of drivers stopping their cars in middle of the road or unmarked intersection for pedestrians. I know people have mixed opinions of the topic. But I would not stop for any pedestrians at unmarked intersections or middle of the road since I most likely will or most people will have a higher chance of getting rear-ended.  
 
Another thing is turn you freaking headlights on and signal if your making a turn!

I drive western Canada and northern states and i find that our enforcement is very slack.  
In the states i have saw in adverse conditions where a trooper will sit of on the shoulder with the blue red lights flashing, this causes people to slow down big time.  
I also see the DOT in the state use their lighted sign boards with messages about road conditions, put your cell phone away, you look good with that belt on, just little reminders to catch your attention.  
Dash cams can catch licence plate numbers, don't be scared to report a driver out there who is putting others at risk.  
And i wish all police would do more to catch these idiots out there.  
They hurry up to pass, put their lives at risk along with others on the road, then take the next exit.  
Wow, you saved your self maybe 3 seconds at the most.  
Morons