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Signs say, " Construction Zone", Speed fines double", "50km/hr".  
Is it still a "construction zone"? I thought the workers were done when they openned to south bound lanes to the public and I haven't seen any workers there since, but the signs and speed limit remain. Am I missing something or is someone asleep at the switch?

I noticed the same thing today. It's time to take the signs down if they're done construction.

They will likely be in place for a while yet. It's a 'cash cow', so they won't be in a rush to remove them.

Stormcloud said "They will likely be in place for a while yet. It's a 'cash cow', so they won't be in a rush to remove them. "

That it could very well be a cash grab should the police set up a speed trap there. However, with the public very aware that it isn''t a "construction zone" anymore, I would think that one would have a very good case in contesting the ticket as the speed limit of 50km/hr was in place for a purpose (contruction) which has been completed for nearly a month already.  
 
Edited by 70`s guy, 2018-01-05 19:08:39

70`s guy said "Signs say, " Construction Zone", Speed fines double", "50km/hr".   Is it still a "construction zone"? I thought the workers were done when they openned to south bound lanes to the public and I haven't seen any workers there since, but the signs and speed limit remain. Am I missing something or is someone asleep at the switch? "

EVERY day I expect the speed limit to be changed back to 70 and every day I roll my eyes (among other things).  
 
Why can't the province or the city tell us WHY the area is still at 50km? Just give us a clue.  
 
If it's no longer a construction zone then someone dropped the ball signage.  
 
People not from here drive through there shaking their head wondering what's going on. It's embarrassing like people from little Brandon can't handle 70 before a bridge.  
 
Eye roll.

I doubt there would be a successful challenge. The sign says 50 km/h.  
When 1st and Kirkcaldy was finished the major reconstruction, and the signs were to be taken down and speed returned to normal that afternoon as publicized, even 45 minutes before the 50km/h signs were removed, I witnessed an 'acquaintance' stopped by police on 1st St North near VV, and he was presented with a speeding ticket for 61km/h in a 50km/h. He was unsuccessful in his challenge.

But it isn’t complete. When they announced it would be opening to 4 lanes of traffic, they stated that there is still work to be completed. This will be done mainly in the spring, but there is likely a small chance that they could work on and off on small things during the winter.  
 
It remains a construction zone until the job is complete, not unlike a stretch of highway (cough..10 North..cough) that has numerous zones set up whether there are workers present or not.

Those on twitter should tweet Brandon Police Service or Brandon City Hall, And compel an official response.

Kirmit said "Those on twitter should tweet Brandon Police Service or Brandon City Hall, And compel an official response. "

limits in this zone have nothing to do with City police or city hall other to enforce what is posted.

Kirmit said "Those on twitter should tweet Brandon Police Service or Brandon City Hall, And compel an official response. "

The posted speed has NOTHING to do with City officials, namely BPS or City Hall. Just abide by the speed posted and you won't have any issues. It's still deemed a construction zone as there is the expectation that workers will be working in that area at times throughout the next few months when the temperatures allow work to continue.

Has been "zero" work there for weeks and it''s just pure laziness on someone''s part to leave the signs up in both directtions. Is it too much to ask to remove the signs and the odd day they do come back to work to out up the signs again in the area that they will be working? Roads are built to move vehicles as efficiently as possible. This, leaving the signs up for god knows how long because work will continue at some point is ridiculous. Are we waiting for lines to be painted? If so, the "construction" signs are up till May at least!  
 
Edited by 70`s guy, 2018-01-05 20:40:20

I noticed that yesterday. Just go 50 km per per hour until the sign gets removed or when the 'additional work' get done in the Spring, whichever comes first. Complaining to the police if you get pulled over there for speeding won't solve anything.

Construction at a standstill but speed not changed and for how long? Sick of being at the mercy of those that are paid with tax dollars.  
 
The City of Brandon has indeed, notified residents about certain things the province is/has done within city limits. The least they can do is let us know when we might get this city going again.  
 
The City always wants to mimic the bigger centres but then acts like it's a small town with no power to DO and CHANGE things when it's convenient for them.  
 
Just ridiculous non-action by province and city as usual. They brag about the great timing on getting the bridge done and then hold us hostage at 50kms. My God, Brandon is slow enough already. We're not asking for Autobahn, we would just like to drive on a highway faster than walking.  
 
No, I won't be contacting them. Telephone/email tag doesn't make me happy either.

It would be nice if it was changed back to 70 km/h, but for whatever reason that doesn’t look like it’s going to happen for some time. They even fixed the sign that had been damaged recently, so I don’t think they intended on changing the speed anytime soon.  
 
But in the mean while it would be nice if people showed some respect and didn’t tail gate other drivers when driving through there. Every day I get some moron riding my arse yet I usually drive 55 km/h through there. People tailgating me just makes me drive slower.  
 
I for one wouldn’t be complaining if the cops did some speed enforcement through there. I honestly I hope they do. Traffic enforcement through out Brandon should be stepped up, when the police have the time and aren’t busy dealing with bigger issues of course.  
 
Edited by The_Young_Man, 2018-01-05 23:23:22

unbreakable1 said "I noticed that yesterday. Just go 50 km per per hour until the sign gets removed or when the 'additional work' get done in the Spring, whichever comes first. Complaining to the police if you get pulled over there for speeding won't solve anything. "

But complaining to police or City Hall about a sign that is incorrect will solve the problem. It will get the sign either removed or updated to reflect the expected speed of traffic. That will lessen unnecessary fines, and solve problems with the courts by having people challenge any charges laid. Is it really too much to ask city police or city hall, to update inappropriate signage on a main throughway into Brandon? Some people amaze me: "Complaining to the police if you get pulled over there for speeding won't solve anything". How about "Complaining to the police BEFORE someone gets pulled over there will solve EVERYTHING!!!"  
 
Completely unnecessary entrapment. Remove or update the signs to help the flow of traffic through this area. We have waited 2 years already. It's time to end the inconvenience -  
especially when it is not needed - and to normalise this commute. And this starts with City Hall or City of Brandon police.

Although not a large number of workers, I did notice several work trucks are there most days. I’m not sure what they are doing, but they are there.

It really matter that it’s not back to 70? Both lanes are open . Be happy that it’s gotten this far . Complaining about it being a “cash cow” isn’t gonna make the speed increase . Don’t break the law and you’ll be fine .

JoeSixpack said "    unbreakable1 said "I noticed that yesterday. Just go 50 km per per hour until the sign gets removed or when the 'additional work' get done in the Spring, whichever comes first. Complaining to the police if you get pulled over there for speeding won't solve anything. " But complaining to police or City Hall about a sign that is incorrect will solve the problem. It will get the sign either removed or updated to reflect the expected speed of traffic. That will lessen unnecessary fines, and solve problems with the courts by having people challenge any charges laid. Is it really too much to ask city police or city hall, to update inappropriate signage on a main throughway into Brandon? Some people amaze me: "Complaining to the police if you get pulled over there for speeding won't solve anything". How about "Complaining to the police BEFORE someone gets pulled over there will solve EVERYTHING!!!"     Completely unnecessary entrapment. Remove or update the signs to help the flow of traffic through this area. We have waited 2 years already. It's time to end the inconvenience -   especially when it is not needed - and to normalise this commute. And this starts with City Hall or City of Brandon police. "

1st is not the City of Brandon’s responsibly. It is a provincial road and complaing to the city or police isn’t going to solve anything or change the speed limit. Their just going to tell you to contact Manitoba Infastructure and Transportation, because they have no control over the road.  
 
If it’s a concern to you, you should contact the province and voice your concern.

loeog said "Although not a large number of workers, I did notice several work trucks are there most days. I’m not sure what they are doing, but they are there. "

Not saying that I don''t believe you, but I drive on 1st street a minimum of 4 times a day and "honestly" I have not seen one worker on site since the 4 lanes re-openned for traffic. Those workers that you see are probably there for 5 or 10 min and you just happen to drive by at tge same time or maybe you live at close proximity. Regardless, I don't believe there's really been any work crews there doing real work for what seems like a long time already.  
 
Edited by 70`s guy, 2018-01-06 08:02:17

70`s guy said "    loeog said "Although not a large number of workers, I did notice several work trucks are there most days. I’m not sure what they are doing, but they are there. " Not saying that I don''t believe you, but I drive on 1st street a minimum of 4 times a day and "honestly" I have not seen one worker on site since the 4 lanes re-openned for traffic. Those workers that you see are probably there for 5 or 10 min and you just happen to drive by at tge same time or maybe you live at close proximity. Regardless, I don't believe there's really been any work crews there doing real work for what seems like a long time already.     Edited by 70`s guy, 2018-01-06 08:02:17"

I said trucks.  
I have noticed trucks at the work trailers. They could be inside for all I know.

loeog said "    70`s guy said "    loeog said "Although not a large number of workers, I did notice several work trucks are there most days. I’m not sure what they are doing, but they are there. " Not saying that I don''t believe you, but I drive on 1st street a minimum of 4 times a day and "honestly" I have not seen one worker on site since the 4 lanes re-openned for traffic. Those workers that you see are probably there for 5 or 10 min and you just happen to drive by at tge same time or maybe you live at close proximity. Regardless, I don't believe there's really been any work crews there doing real work for what seems like a long time already.     Edited by 70`s guy, 2018-01-06 08:02:17" I said trucks.   I have noticed trucks at the work trailers. They could be inside for all I know. "

having a coffee in a trailer doesn't substantiate a "construction zone" IMO. I'm starting to think that maybe it's seen as a cash cow by the powers to be and it absolutely is when "reduced speed" is in place under false pretense. I agree with the 50km/hr when workers are "on site", but to have the signs there 24/7 when absolutely no work is being done is probsbly nothing more than a "cash grab" in waiting!

that this is the new speed limit for the area. i dont think they will change it back. they did not change the 18th street one back after its construction. it stayed at the lower limit. Just a thought

I thought we've figured this out from the last few projects for our highways that the contractors of MIT will drag their @$$ as long as they want. They're not done, plain and simple. One bridge sits 'dark' with no lighting up/on, the other still has the barriers that need finishing. The temporary switch-over for traffic on the north side needs removal and whatever the plan for Pacific Ave. will need to be started. All that crap should have been worked on earlier, but we know how things work around here with Highways... Things always get delayed. Wasn't the weather this summer, but something else will be the excuse. Look no further up at Highway 10 North. After three years... and still not done. Should we be surprised that these people won't "kick over the construction speed zone sign" and allow the original posted speed limit to resume? ...I'm going to assume once again, like in all of the previous projects with the roads, that whatever the "delay" is, will be eventually resolved (weather, supplies, manpower, sub-trades or money). And they'll decide to return to the project whenever they bloody-well feel like it. Just 'pucker-up' and kiss their @$$ like they want us to for getting the second bridge opened to traffic with only a months delay. Because like highway 10, these people could just drag-it-out way past the projected timeline without still even reaching the original set goals. ...an improved and safer roadway.  
 
Just my opinion, I could be wrong.

I use this route to get to the north side all the time. I don't understand what the big issue is here to go the speed limit? It hardly adds any extra time to drive to your destination. Brandonites are so whiny. I'll keep going the posted speed limit, and ask that anyone who wants to go over that, to please stop tailgating me. It doesn't make me go any faster.

*enter name here* said "I use this route to get to the north side all the time. I don't understand what the big issue is here to go the speed limit? It hardly adds any extra time to drive to your destination. Brandonites are so whiny. I'll keep going the posted speed limit, and ask that anyone who wants to go over that, to please stop tailgating me. It doesn't make me go any faster. "

it might add a minute to my drive.

*enter name here* said "I use this route to get to the north side all the time. I don't understand what the big issue is here to go the speed limit? It hardly adds any extra time to drive to your destination. Brandonites are so whiny. I'll keep going the posted speed limit, and ask that anyone who wants to go over that, to please stop tailgating me. It doesn't make me go any faster. "

all heard that time is money and for us working folks, it's true so why have a 50km/hr limit when the roads and grounds are built for much higher speed? In addition, no left turn on Rosser East from 1st street South. I don't see a reason for that sign either!

70`s guy said "    *enter name here* said "I use this route to get to the north side all the time. I don't understand what the big issue is here to go the speed limit? It hardly adds any extra time to drive to your destination. Brandonites are so whiny. I'll keep going the posted speed limit, and ask that anyone who wants to go over that, to please stop tailgating me. It doesn't make me go any faster. " all heard that time is money and for us working folks, it's true so why have a 50km/hr limit when the roads and grounds are built for much higher speed? In addition, no left turn on Rosser East from 1st street South. I don't see a reason for that sign either! "

That's because no one from planning considered to install a left turning lane when re-building the roadway up to Rosser. I guess the intersection must need to be a separate project. This is my argument about the plans for the Eighteenth street bridge plans... A lack foresight. The street is completely torn up, what does it take to set in the turning lane. No different than First street North is missing the median and a lane way southbound when it was worked on. Now, we have a half-@$$ed section for a mile off of the Trans Can. No insight to take advantage of the opportunity to make it better, just give Brandon what they had before. *sarcasm*  
 
Just my opinion, I could be wrong.

Not to defend them but since part of the problem or unfinished work is the Pacific switch over.  
 
Decisions when the city and MIT have a mutual interest can cause epic slow downs in construction/progress.  
 
We saw that in the Victoria rebuild. MIT had Victoria but the plumbing tie ins to city own plumbing on the city own streets caused grief.  
 
As I see it setting up and taking down a construction ad hoc causes it own problems plus a pile of expensive labour.  
 
Leaving it up means workers can come and go as they need.  
No slapping up signs then taking down. The only sign that normally is changed when no workers are known to be off site is speed signs. In this case 60/70 is close and not worth the hassle. Especially if they plan to keep it at 60.

it is still a construction zone. there is still more lifts of pavement to be put down next spring

People in this city are just in way to much of a rush. It really doesn’t take that long to drive from one end of town to another unless you get stopped by a train some where. Even though all 4 lanes are open, It is still very much a construction zone.  
 
So to all you people who like to flip the bird to someone doing the proper speed limit, or whip past them super quick and then cut them off to “teach them a lesson” can go get bent.  
 
I’ll keep doing the posted speed limit then laugh at the rest of you when you get a speeding ticket in the still very much construction zone. Enjoy your double fines.